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Post by SMITY on Nov 15, 2009 18:37:39 GMT 12
Gee last time i looked at the track you could at least fit 2 cars wide if not 3 cars  Ritchie drives within his limits and he knows how to control a race from the front. As per Shannon comment its called racecraft  If any car drove up the back of him it would not be ritchie fault. Ritchie held the inside line the whole race and a couple of other cars went round the outside of him. If you thought that he was slowing the other cars down then why did they not go round the outside?? If they carn't get round the outside then they have to follow.... Simple. What a joke  |
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Post by super16c on Nov 15, 2009 18:54:43 GMT 12
Gee last time i looked at the track you could at least fit 2 cars wide if not 3 cars Ritchie drives within his limits and he knows how to control a race from the front. As per Shannon comment its called racecraft If any car drove up the back of him it would not be ritchie fault. Ritchie held the inside line the whole race and a couple of other cars went round the outside of him. If you thought that he was slowing the other cars down then why did they not go round the outside?? If they carn't get round the outside then they have to follow.... Simple What a joke What do you mean "what a joke" SMITY? Visacard has hit the nail on the head, if someones runs up ritchies backside its not his fault, cos last time I checked too, (or saw) there is plenty of room for a car to run round the outside of a car on the poleline!! |
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Post by sesco4x4 on Nov 15, 2009 18:58:16 GMT 12
far out you get one night like that and people think the world is coming to an end you go to the other side of town and you will get it every night ive been going to the other side for 25+ years and now go to the glen and boy i should of changed a long time ago but hey just see what they put on next week and then have another say every one has to race on it and i no i go for the racing not to see what the track is doing just change your car to suit.
good job the glen.
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Post by super16c on Nov 15, 2009 18:59:48 GMT 12
Good call sesco
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Post by SMITY on Nov 15, 2009 19:08:00 GMT 12
No Ben its not his fault but in my op ion (like i have said more than once) it is baulking and i for one no Richie is better than that so why do it.What i meant by what a joke was i no it would not be his fault but would it wake his ideas up when sitting on the infield watching.Like i said my op ion |
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Post by super16c on Nov 15, 2009 19:13:19 GMT 12
You intitled to your op ion SMITY but im sure if someone ran clean up Ritchies date the refs wouldnt see it as his fault.
End of the day the guy is a genious behind the wheel.
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Post by bigredcorvette on Nov 15, 2009 19:26:34 GMT 12
My heart goes out to 27c Trevor Elliott though he was driving very well then a racing accident between him and burson i rekon cost trevor the crown
Cheers
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Post by SMITY on Nov 15, 2009 19:27:30 GMT 12
Mate i agree he is magic that is why i don't and probably never understand why he does that in the corners.Perhaps i need to change my view of racing after 25 years lol.Sad not to see you out hopefully next week ,i will come and introduce myself on Saturday night |
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Post by super16c on Nov 15, 2009 19:30:29 GMT 12
sounds good SMITY. be back next sat, ribs be better by then!
have to agree with bigred too, apparently trevor was haulin!
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Post by REX on Nov 15, 2009 19:30:58 GMT 12
Dont you mean the lights cost Trever
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Post by em6 on Nov 15, 2009 20:11:57 GMT 12
Dont you mean the lights cost Trever I'm sure it was the lack of a left rear tyre that cost him from were I was sitting! |
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Post by kinder on Nov 15, 2009 20:18:40 GMT 12
Rex is referring to trever thought he seen the lights flash instead of going green ian went and unfortunately the rest is history.
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Post by SMITY on Nov 15, 2009 20:21:38 GMT 12
and thats racecraft  sorry couldnt risist |
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Nov 16, 2009 11:01:45 GMT 12
You intitled to your opinion SMITY but im sure if someone ran clean up Ritchies date the refs wouldnt see it as his fault. End of the day the guy is a genious behind the wheel. If SNZ race referees ever go professional with appropriate support, apply consistency to interpretation and application of the 'saloon race rules', it will not be a day too soon. There, however, be a cost involved! In saying that, possibly of all the many tracks I visit, Woodford Glen SNZ Officials are the most professional in their duties, from the scrutineers, stewards, refs. I note Ben's comment above which is in stark contrast to reality, the rules and how The Glen referees apply them from time to time. - This time last year my elation at winning a feature race at the Glen soon became frustration.
Bit like getting a cheque only to have it bounce!
I secured the win with Steve Williams breathing down my neck, only to be relegated to second place as the refs believe I baulked existing turn four on my last lap, disadvantaging Steve Williams!
- I believe the same meeting had Emerson in his super saloon leading a race, loosing it a bit existing turn 4 mid race, the following cars brake, take evasive action avoiding all contact. Car at the very rear (likely away with the fairies) spins up and stops. Emmo was put to the rear for the restart deemed having been the cause of the stoppage (40m away).
Just a couple of examples above of many.
The lead car is subject to the racing rules, just as the rest are. If it should be clearly evident that ANY competitor is deliberately adopting a driving style that unduly disadvantages another, then it is likely to be contrary to the rules, with the ref having the option to relegate, penalise, etc. However, what a great weekend of speedway with worthy winners and place-getters. Sorry about Emmo having to retire due to a faulty main power switch, having clearly demonstrated he was a real threat to the lead.
Friday Night ...
 Saturday Night ...  Now, when will I be able to get back down to the Glen, will they let me in the gate?............[/b] |
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Post by 351 on Nov 17, 2009 18:35:29 GMT 12
Track started off very greasy,so they put an extra mini stock race on first, didn't know mini stocks could take so much track away (to put it in the pits). Rumor has it Dennis Bolt liked what he saw, a track that was going to last a bit longer.
I was thinking track was going to be slick as early on on the second night,but what nor-west blew wasn't too strong and defiantly cooler/cold. Sure it went slick in the last mod race,so the final champion of champions super saloon race was, for the bulk of it going to be slick,nothing new there.
I want to talk of something that makes me alittle happier,(been a while).A checkered flag I got in super saloons (the only one I have got) at the Glen. It was last seasons Champ of Champs.In front for over half of a heat race, with the now 1NZ back alittle. Had a caution and people watching new I was going to be passed on the restart. It didn't happen and I put space between me and Shane Mac. How I drove was gunning it down the straights, without really buzzing the tire, and braking real hard while car still straight,turning in gentle leaving LF on the smooth concrete before ripple strip help 'dig' RR in track,as it was higher than the track,no slide,just drive round. Woodford Glen like or love it seems to have a track that just goes slick. Its like a big bore motor crosser with a new knobbly on sun baked clay(concrete) trying to get his best acceleration times,not an enthralling specter. One must do what one can to race with success (with what he has) on a slippery surface.
On the front page,Where does Mr macgor get off saying (in differing words) watching so many heats being a bit of a bore. You what. Wow it was abit like the super s champs,totally cool. Seeing the speed and precision passing different setups who's more ballsy, it goes on. My brother and I could survive on a staple diet of saloon racing.
Don't think Ritchie's driving was controversial, he was doing what he could to get his car round the pole line,def not slowing enough to be balking.And if he slows too much the outside is getting more attractive.
Gee the restart was a mess for a couple,apparently the lights flashed or went green and back or similar earlier than usual,ie turn four just after Trev (lead car) went past nearest light box,Burs and Ritchie saw it and responded,but had to pull their horns in pretty quick,Unfortunately burs hooked with Trev RF to LR,and in the process got a little tap from Ritchie,(so I believe)along the way.A very unfortunate incident.
Mostly nice photos Murray,you have raised the bar as far as presentation goes,gee how do you do that. Hey where is the one of you sitting,surrounded by old nth island super panels?eh?.
Well I think the saloons are about to kick off in Cromwell.
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Post by 2jbones on Nov 17, 2009 18:50:59 GMT 12
No doub,t you be looking forward to sat nite for the Canterbury Title can anybody tip Richie of his perch GO #17c Kane Lawson Mag and Turbo, Lovelady Racecars Mustang |
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Nov 17, 2009 20:18:01 GMT 12
... Hey where is the one of you sitting,surrounded by old nth island super panels?eh? .. ;D Here it is, former 2NZ panels appropriately stacked and a seat waiting for Neville 'stirrer' Stewart before the match is thrown ...  |
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Ritchie drives within his limits and he knows how to control a race from the front. As per Shannon comment its called racecraft 
If any car drove up the back of him it would not be ritchie fault. Ritchie held the inside line the whole race and a couple of other cars went round the outside of him. If you thought that he was slowing the other cars down then why did they not go round the outside?? If they carn't get round the outside then they have to follow.... Simple.
sorry couldnt risist 
Now, when will I be able to get back down to the Glen, will they let me in the gate?............