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Post by trucker400 on Apr 12, 2010 22:26:46 GMT 12
Just a reminder to ignore the closing date on the forms if you download/already have one and ring/txt or leave me a message I will get back to you at night,I am currently working just outside the range of my wonderfully reliable cellphone provider which is proving to be a complete pain in the a*^e.
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Post by Prongtek on Apr 12, 2010 23:09:47 GMT 12
To add to Truckers comment, time is getting close and this will be the last chance this season to get on our track for a decent event. And if I may quote one of the SSCAR drivers comments from the after function in the clubrooms a few weeks back, "I have just raced on the best track in the country" And the track will be in premo condition again for this weekend with the weather working in our favor.
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Post by trucker400 on Apr 13, 2010 21:08:19 GMT 12
NO SIDECARS!!!!!!!!!!Following a breakdown in last minute negotiations we have had to replace the Sidecars with SALOONS,we have 7/8 locals organized who would like some fresh competition so if your interested ring Hogie 027 2605555 or Steve 06 7657337
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Post by midget31s on Apr 14, 2010 19:28:15 GMT 12
any confirmed numbers ?
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Post by trucker400 on Apr 14, 2010 19:36:55 GMT 12
After confering with Eric we have around 15 so far, assuming your a starter,if you read the thread in General re support classes for Sat, you already feature!!!
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Post by midget31s on Apr 14, 2010 21:02:54 GMT 12
sweet im there with bells on , give me a bell 2moro reguarding some prizes etc that i have lined up
Cheers
Realy looking foward to saturday
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Post by Speedway Central (David) on Apr 18, 2010 21:08:36 GMT 12
Did lots of Western Spring Sprintcars come down and race Ferndene as only 2 racing at Waikaraka Park on Saturday..
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Post by ironmaiden on Apr 19, 2010 18:49:10 GMT 12
After advertising an NZ title in the paper for Sprintcars, Midgets, Minisprints, This meeting was a complete balls up. well guess how many sprintcars turned up? 1!! Yes 1 sprintcar, 6p Nelson Hartley, he did a couple of laps on his own, then went home as he had no one to race!, The organisers of this meeting need a good kick up the a@@!! as obviously they had no communication with the drivers  , no comfirmed entries, nothing! just a case of whoeverturns up races. The midgets were the only class worth watching and it was all local cars, only 2 palmy minisprints raced with the locals, but at least they had someone to race! unlike poor Nelson Hartley, and it dident get any better as i went to sleep when 4 ministocks came out for their race (boring) The track announcer even seemed more interested at times with the music that was playing annoyingly throughout the whole meeting! sometimes i couldent even hear the cars! Paid $10 to get in Wasent worth $1. Easily my worst meeting of the season.  |
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Post by BarryB on Apr 19, 2010 19:50:27 GMT 12
I guess that explains the lack of follow up posts by those that had been pushing the meeting. Unbelieveable.........
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Post by percy on Apr 19, 2010 20:06:28 GMT 12
Such a shame as everyone you talk to says Ferndene is one of the best speedway tracks in the country.
But two attempts to organise decent meetings have degenerated into a shambolic outcome with plenty of losers and no winners.
Ferndene is the only non-SNZ track in NZ that I would like to see become an SNZ track. But it's hard to see any benefit given the current situation.
Hopefully someone from the track will give us an alternate perspective.
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Post by BarryB on Apr 19, 2010 21:08:16 GMT 12
Ferndene is the only non-SNZ track in NZ that I would like to see become an SNZ track I'd like to second that......... |
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Post by Prongtek on Apr 19, 2010 23:37:53 GMT 12
Personally I didn't play much of a part in organizing this event but have come on here to hopefully shead some light on what we were up against. We had received 7 confirmed entries from sprintcars and word of others that were coming. One driver txt me saturday morning to say he couldn't make it due to damage from Harrisville, one showed up on the night, Nelson Hartley (Thank you dude, and Andy will be getting in touch with you), as for the others ? who knows, nothing heard or seen of them. Nelson came out on the track for a demo and had a ball, loved the track as we had it in premo condition and had his car howling round at a great rate of knots. Yes he didn't come back out but not because there were no other sprintcars there but because as he left the track after the 1st demo there was a little man with a little hammer let loose in his motor. He has said he will be back next season. Some of the things we have had to battle with trying to hold these titles, Twice we have tried to hold the CTRA sprintcar title and twice a certain track that I wont mention has changed its program and included sprintcars to keep them from coming to Ferndene and to an extent it worked. Then theres the SNZ and CTRA thing, most drivers don't realize that they can come and compete at a CTRA event without repercussions regarding their SNZ contracts because it doesn't conflict with their SNZ contract obligations (I wont go into details) Then theres the black track myth, some still believe Ferndene is a black track. Not so, we run under a governing body (CTRA) we have rules and regulations. Then theres the threats, I personally know of 2 different threats (and again I wont go into details) made to competitors in 2 classes as to what would happen if they came to race at Ferndene on the 20th of march when we first tried for the sprintcar title. In my book thats B.S. and bigger fools the competitors who took notice of those threats. You own the cars and yes you have some contractual obligations but outside of those you can race when ever and where ever you like, you just need to grow some nuts and stand up for yourselves. Then there the flock of sheep thing, I'm not going, if he's not going then I'm not going, if they aren't going then we wont go either and so on, you get the picture. Now some background about us, Ferndene has been operating for a number of years now, our committee hasn't. We formed the committee 2 & 1\2 years ago and we are in a big learning curve, last season we took over running and organizing the track from the owners and the 1st hurdle was dispelling the rumor that the track was closing down. This year we took on everything including track prep and an determined attitude that we will make Ferndene the place to come and race and that we are here to stay no matter how much some try to sabotage our efforts. We have sponsors starting to back us because they see the potential in the track and what our committee stands for and wants to achieve. Hopefully this leads to us being financial enough to start buying our own gear and putting up some resonable prize money ie tractors are 1st on the list rather than relying on the generosity of those who have given us the use of their tractors for the season. We have seen our downfalls and how things fell over at the last hour due to non commitment from drivers and we have already put in place a better plan for organizing the CTRA titles we will be holding next season. Which has already seen some commitment for a couple of big events already that will be on the new calender when we release it closer to next season. |
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Post by maxim on Apr 20, 2010 9:18:28 GMT 12
Twice we have tried to hold the CTRA sprintcar title and twice a certain track that I wont mention has changed its program and included sprintcars to keep them from coming to Ferndene and to an extent it worked.
I guess the tracks you are talking about would be B/Park & W/Park.Your 1st show most sprintcar drivers would have to get released from there SNZ tracks as a few tracks were running sprintcars,that would of been a battle in itself getting released from there home track to run CTRA.2nd show that has just been W/Park has had the Webster on there calender for mths.
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Post by Prongtek on Apr 20, 2010 20:37:32 GMT 12
This is exactly what I was getting at, a lack of understanding of whats in the rule book regarding contractual obligation and what one can or cant do or better still, where one can or cant go with their race car.
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Post by BarryB on Apr 21, 2010 6:44:18 GMT 12
This is exactly what I was getting at, a lack of understanding of whats in the rule book regarding contractual obligation and what one can or cant do or better still, where one can or cant go with their race car. Not only that though, even SNZ track with small numbers in certain classes try and work together (although not as often as I'd like in some instances) to ensure at least one has a good field on any given night. Wouldn't it make even more sence for a CTRA track to be doing the same? That is, don't try and run such a meeting against other tracks doing the same, even more so in this case? |
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Post by ford47 on Apr 21, 2010 21:36:08 GMT 12
Save your own point of views for the clubrooms, Macgor's isn't the place for this sort of behaviour! Good on you Prongtek for trying to explain the situation.
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Post by BarryB on Apr 22, 2010 6:29:18 GMT 12
Save your own point of views for the clubrooms, Macgor's isn't the place for this sort of behaviour! Good on you Prongtek for trying to explain the situation. Whilst I partially agree with that sentiment, when macgor's is used to promote a meeting or event, and that meeting basically does not happen, I think it's fair enough macgor's readers have some form of explanation as well. |
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Post by jeds on Apr 22, 2010 21:41:25 GMT 12
seems a darn shame that this track is not used by all classes more often,as a member of the outlaws we were there when it first opened,it was an amazing track to have a drive on.the main problem is lack of ctra sanctioned tracks in nz to hold good numbers of cars in the top classes,this ctra-snz stuff has been going on for years and it is not going to go away.sure the ctra tracks in the north have lots of members but i guess they are seen as out of sight out of mind.the tracks that run the regular classes are basicly protecting there own shows.if you want good fields your going to have to come up with some dates that are well outside the snz calender.
i take my hat to what your commitee is trying to do with the place,as i said its an awesome place to race,lets hope it can be used by any racer who wants to in the future without any backlash,
jed
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Post by woodart on Apr 22, 2010 22:06:39 GMT 12
seems a d**n shame that this track is not used by all classes more often,as a member of the outlaws we were there when it first opened,it was an amazing track to have a drive on.the main problem is lack of ctra sanctioned tracks in nz to hold good numbers of cars in the top classes,this ctra-snz stuff has been going on for years and it is not going to go away.sure the ctra tracks in the north have lots of members but i guess they are seen as out of sight out of mind.the tracks that run the regular classes are basicly protecting there own shows.if you want good fields your going to have to come up with some dates that are well outside the snz calender. i take my hat to what your commitee is trying to do with the place,as i said its an awesome place to race,lets hope it can be used by any racer who wants to in the future without any backlash, jed original outlaw #16 .. ;D ;Dagree totally with you . I raced a modified there years ago , chose to race there rather than palmy or stratford because of the track, wow!! what a track, had heaps of grief because of the stupid politics of not supporting an inferior snz track.  . |
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Post by Wingnut99 on Apr 23, 2010 7:59:26 GMT 12
seems a d**n shame that this track is not used by all classes more often,as a member of the outlaws we were there when it first opened,it was an amazing track to have a drive on.the main problem is lack of ctra sanctioned tracks in nz to hold good numbers of cars in the top classes,this ctra-snz stuff has been going on for years and it is not going to go away.sure the ctra tracks in the north have lots of members but i guess they are seen as out of sight out of mind.the tracks that run the regular classes are basicly protecting there own shows.if you want good fields your going to have to come up with some dates that are well outside the snz calender. original outlaw #16 This snz-ctra stuff is not going away its going to get worse, and while ctra carry on using parts of the snz rule book and ignoring other parts of the snz rule book it will continue. ctra will be forced to stop racing while "doing it on the cheap". the ctra outfit should look over thier shoulder at the authorities that are looking at the lack of ctra saftey proceedures and lack of training. this may be borne out by the investigation of the ministock fatality that happened recently |
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, no comfirmed entries, nothing! just a case of whoeverturns up races. The midgets were the only class worth watching and it was all local cars, only 2 palmy minisprints raced with the locals, but at least they had someone to race! unlike poor Nelson Hartley, and it dident get any better as i went to sleep when 4 ministocks came out for their race (boring) The track announcer even seemed more interested at times with the music that was playing annoyingly throughout the whole meeting! sometimes i couldent even hear the cars! Paid $10 to get in Wasent worth $1. Easily my worst meeting of the season. 
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