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Post by Mav, back bein a pit biarch on Jan 28, 2011 17:16:14 GMT 12
Glad Marty isn't an international trader been a long time since the USD was worth half the NZD lol yes was thinking that myself, is actually closer to 0.778 when I did a conversion earlier today, so the USD$5000 would be closer to NZD$6500 Would make for cheaper conversions from Stockcar to superstock....help the class gain a few more numbers. |
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Post by engineer on Jan 28, 2011 17:19:21 GMT 12
There are a few genuine 500 Horsepower engines out there in superstocks.
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 28, 2011 17:53:27 GMT 12
thing is 500plus horse power have to spend big on suspension , shocks etc to get their power to the ground 400 horse power will be another cost saver in the area ram jam 10 grand includes shipment
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Post by Jeff See on Jan 28, 2011 18:05:24 GMT 12
Grunter. Who the hell do you think you are to insinuate we don't have the right to be out there with the bigger spenders?
I and plenty of others spend what we can afford and would rather race a superstock than a standard. My car may not be high spec or high horsepower but over its time its been pretty reliable and Im sure the bumper hasnt bent for no reason. Infact it has even been used to teams race with a very budget motor.
If you look carefully you will find there are plenty in the standard stock class spending more than 10k and still not winning. I have nothing but admiraton for anyone that gets out there, no matter what they drive, spend or earn.
I spose if you have the millions that you must obviously have please share it round so the rest of us poor guys can get to the front. Actually NA, Id rather be a nuisance than wait for your expensive motor to explode!!
P.S. Im putting a stock standard Toyota in right now just to annoy you lol.
Jeff See
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Post by Wiseowl on Jan 28, 2011 18:55:39 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 18:58:36 GMT 12
Great post Jeff.
I applaude anyone with the initiative to grow our sport, and see this idea as fantastic and nothing but positive.
Sure it might take away a little business from those already established at hotrod Jap engine builders, but they can adapt and it would also open up morte of a market for US engine specialists within our sport perhaps.
Look forward to seeing the progress with this engine.
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Post by pallmall on Jan 28, 2011 19:01:48 GMT 12
Are you joking..... do you really think a $10k engine is going to be on the pace of the big boys - Dont Think So! Save your time and spend it on your stockcar and when you can afford to race superstocks - then buy one and go racing... Hi Grunter, which superstock do you drive? Tried looking at your profile but there is nothing there. |
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Post by joshnz on Jan 28, 2011 19:07:44 GMT 12
^^^^^^^^
haha proberly a remote control superstock
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 28, 2011 19:11:58 GMT 12
not quite right Josh chev at 500 horse power to make it reliable 60-80k
at this stage if it gets past the trial stage it wont be a control engine rather an option at this stage for those that want to use it ....don't jump too far ahead you will be giving some drivers and engine builders panic attacks lol
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Post by pallmall on Jan 28, 2011 19:11:59 GMT 12
if you throw 10grand at a 350 chev youll have more than 500hp.beats throwing 60grand at a toyota or nissan to maybe get 500hp The point is that it is a factory sealed engine, you will not be allowed to try and work it up to 500hp. I understand the aim is about 420 hp and that should make it reasonably competitive with all but the top few cars. Bring it on. |
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Post by thejoker on Jan 28, 2011 19:45:09 GMT 12
I doubt there are more than 3 cars with 500 hp if any. No one will tell you so make up all the storys you want. Most top superstocks are between 400 and 450 hp.
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Post by ginga912 on Jan 28, 2011 20:06:48 GMT 12
Why bother when you can get a CSL or Hartley engine for $30k thats already proven. If people can't afford that, maybe they should try or stay in stockcars and leave the superstocks alone. 30k, cant believe that! I heard csl cams will do you a ministock motor for 6k and thats you suppling the motor!!! Also so heard thats these holden motors from Hartley's for a stockcar are 30k! If it cost you 30k for a new super motor then why do you have to pay 60k 70k for a super that you may win in? I hope these new motors do come in. Ive wanted to buy a stocky for a long time now but haven't because of the cost!! So i enjoy watching but wish i was out there!!! |
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Post by leonardracing on Jan 28, 2011 20:16:03 GMT 12
Ha ha grunter, bring your super fast super stock to HB and come race with the local Stockcars, I would put my money on a DNF.
Just for the record as well, I race these days just for fun, and don't have time to go all over NZ running a SuperStock, so am happy just being out there doing my thing.
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Post by ginga912 on Jan 28, 2011 20:25:38 GMT 12
Ha ha grunter, bring your super fast super stock to HB and come race with the local Stockcars, I would put my money on a DNF. Just for the record as well, I race these days just for fun, and don't have time to go all over NZ running a SuperStock, so am happy just being out there doing my thing. Well said ross, i raced karts with you, im from palmy i was the orange headed kid that tried beating you, did once in a while but not many, most of you hb karters were stockys drivers when i raced thats why us palmy boys used to get smash around on the hb kart track!!!! HaHa |
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Post by nzf2stocks. on Jan 28, 2011 20:39:44 GMT 12
I cant get the pdf to open, so how complete is the chevy? Carb, manifold, flywheel etc supplied?
The reason I ask is my Toyota superstock engine cost; (roughly)
Import motor $1500
Cams and valve springs $1000
Headwork $1000
Bottom end work $1500
Carb and manifold (refurbished 2nd hand) $800
$5800 = 392hp@6800rpm. (torque peak at 5200rpm)
Now all I need is the rest of the car ;D
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 28, 2011 20:56:26 GMT 12
I doubt there are more than 3 cars with 500 hp if any. No one will tell you so make up all the storys you want. Most top superstocks are between 400 and 450 hp. Name the three big HP engines that do 500hp |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 28, 2011 21:05:12 GMT 12
I cant get the pdf to open, so how complete is the chevy? Carb, manifold, flywheel etc supplied? The reason I ask is my Toyota superstock engine cost; (roughly) Import motor $1500 Cams and valve springs $1000 Headwork $1000 Bottom end work $1500 Carb and manifold (refurbished 2nd hand) $800 $5800 = 392hp@6800rpm. (torque peak at 5200rpm) Now all I need is the rest of the car ;D prices have changed heaps since then |
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Post by nzf2stocks. on Jan 28, 2011 21:18:55 GMT 12
Not really, most competent engine builders will do the basic work for that kind of money, this is just general reco work, not precision race engine building, I do all the stripping and reassembly myself.
eg heads, crack test, skimmed to 9.9-1, cam journals line bored, restrictors in the oilways and external oil return ports, $1k tops.
I'm more interested to know what comes with thease chevy's that come in.
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 28, 2011 21:26:36 GMT 12
I was meaning more along the lines of Labour costs which in your case Paul is a huge saving
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Post by scotty 911w on Jan 28, 2011 21:27:16 GMT 12
I cant get the pdf to open, ;D Horsepower = 400 @ 5500 rpm, Torque = 400 @ 4500 rpm. Max Recommended rpm = 5800 Compression ratio = 9.6:1 Block = 10105123 four bolt main, cast iron Crankshaft = 12556307 Forged steel Connecting Rods = 10108688 powdered metal Pistons = 10159436 high silicon aluminum with offset pins. Piston Rings = 12528817, Moly top, cast second Camshaft = 10185071 hydraulic roller- .474″ intake lift, .510″ Exhaust Lift, Duration @ .050′- 208 Intake, 221 Exhaust,Lobe C/L-112 Cylinder Heads = Fast Burn Aluminum (Similar in design to LT4 Corvette head) 2.00″ hollow stem intake, 1.55″ sodium filled exhaust, 64cc heart shaped chambers Valve Springs = 12551483 LT4 Chrome Silicon Intake Manifold = 12496822 Aluminum high rise, Single plane, with square bore carb. bolt pattern Distributor = NOT INCLUDED Spark Plugs = Delco MR43LTS or R42LTS gapped at .045″ Fuel = 92 Octane Note : Melonized (hardened) distributor gear must be used on distributor to prevent engine damage |
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