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[BarryB]

Feb 6, 2011 18:09:33 GMT 12 busterbell said:

palmy are always bending rules, have been since its inception.
there have been countless occasions when this has happened.
no other event Carry's the same "favoritism" tag as this event.
sure come back next year, sweep another controversy under the carpet, and wait for next seasons dramas.
prefer it just stopped and there was a fair and just contest between whoever.
its hard enough to compete with the panthers let alone the ref as well.

Broken record - change

[Stevo]

Barry, I don't think it will change, can't see beyond their one-eyed conspiracy theory. They have had it pointed out on a number of posts re Hemis relegation last year, Wainmans relegation this year plus others that occuirred but it seems to make no difference. What about the year Scotty was disqualified and left the team with only 3 cars - may have forgotten that one too I think.

[shiny1]

Feb 6, 2011 0:21:44 GMT 12 export gold said:

What a joke the refs were , talk about looking after the home team , Kihikihi get two cars sent off last night and nelson get relegated for cutting the grass tonight, but how many times did the panthers do the same thing and nothing happens ? I guess you cant cut the pole line but its okay if you dont stop on the red lights and its okay to keep on attacking a stationery car when the red lights are on To the stratford team , awesome job you guys rock , To the panthers and there friends the Refs

keven is selling his car because of the politics mainly snz thurston he just has it in for him which is unfair and unjustified how can you race a car and enjoy it when you keep getting taking off for nothing.

[busterbell]

Feb 6, 2011 18:24:54 GMT 12 BarryB said:

Feb 6, 2011 18:09:33 GMT 12 busterbell said:

palmy are always bending rules, have been since its inception.
there have been countless occasions when this has happened.
no other event Carry's the same "favoritism" tag as this event.
sure come back next year, sweep another controversy under the carpet, and wait for next seasons dramas.
prefer it just stopped and there was a fair and just contest between whoever.
its hard enough to compete with the panthers let alone the ref as well.

Broken record - change

yes barry
what needs to change and how for all this to stop??
most local support seem to think suck it up, forget it, bad luck, try again.
the controversys have been going on for too long now for that to be acceptable.

p.s
on a personnel note, congrats for a outstanding job on speedbox. was most impressed.

[busterbell]

Feb 6, 2011 18:28:30 GMT 12 Stevo said:

What about the year Scotty was disqualified and left the team with only 3 cars - may have forgotten that one too I think.

havnt forgotten, another occasion where they tried to bend the rules and have him re-instated ( reserve broken collar bone??)
against the gladiators??
sweep it under the carpet aye. shhhhh

[tigersfan]

what bout two yrs ago buster,
rees car was broken,
so they stalled and stalled and stalled

[Dirt_Fan]

Since im lazy and dont wish to go through 10 pages of posts (im also unsure if this has been asked) is there any validity to the claim that the panthers made the protest against nelson in the N v S race?
It certainly could be seen as the panthers wanting to take out their strongest competition without having to race them. However an infringement is and infringement, but surely it should be between the 2 teams on the track.If they think its fair then alls well.
Wait till next year when paly get protests from other teams about their races

[Deleted]

Feb 6, 2011 19:00:39 GMT 12 Dirt_Fan said:

is there any validity to the claim that the panthers made the protest against nelson in the N v S race?

No

[Deleted]

Most people on here would not have a clue about the rules of Teams racing, as has been proved many times, yet they all think they should be referee's.

As mentioned before most would not have had a clue between the stipe & ref's

Part of that is the sports prob because no effort is ever made to explain calls except by one two commentators who care. Cant we do something like this tinyurl.com/4rfrmlk Ok i know the ref cant throw a flag or go onto the track, but some kind of computer link to the comentators room not be set up where the referee could make a call. So if in a teams race car 100x hits a car in a non attacking position, on the screen in the announcers box would pop up incident car # 100x, turn 4. The announcer would mention it right then and there. After the race the ref explains over the PA, Incident of car 100x involves hitting of car in no attacking position will be investigated.
He would then go through the normal process of talking to infield officials via radio, drivers rep and then the driver concerned. he would then (or his assistant would) inform the announcer via computer message what the out come, and penalty (if any) was. This wouldn't take anymore time than is already taken although would maybe need an assistant to do the messaging. Would make for a better informed crowd.

[psycho13]

since when can you put in a protest on a race your not even in ?.

[Dirt_Fan]

I wouldnt know but is there anything to stop this from happening?
Obviously there are rules to protesting but does it stipulate that it has to be the team racing.
I merely heard a rumour and am glad to have had it proven wrong.
I wanted the information and luckily for me i got it from a form of the source.

[Deleted]

Feb 6, 2011 19:26:28 GMT 12 psycho13 said:

since when can you put in a protest on a race your not even in ?.

it was more misinformed dribble, altho to be fair he was asking rather than telling. you can't even protest a race you ARE in. You can raise an issue with the drivers rep.

[MadMarty13B]

Feb 6, 2011 19:31:06 GMT 12 Ramjam said:

Feb 6, 2011 19:26:28 GMT 12 psycho13 said:

since when can you put in a protest on a race your not even in ?.

you can't even protest a race you ARE in. You can raise an issue with the drivers rep.

rubbish it is you that seems to know nothing Jam

[psycho13]

Marty you should know, can you or cant you protest a race that you are not in ?

[MadMarty13B]

well it was done and has been done before

[specks]

obviously my ex wife was also a supporter of the opposition team cos she kept on bringing up issues 3 to 4 years later too........... Batchalor life is great .... can go to almost any speedway meeting I like............. please ex wives stop haunting speedway !!

[Deleted]

Feb 6, 2011 19:39:50 GMT 12 MadMarty13B said:

well it was done and has been done before

Yes has been done before but in another time. Because Phil Dixon was there,..... arghhh forget it I'm not going to repeat myself but I bet no one can produce any evidence of any protest by anyone.

[busterbell]

when a senior ref is in control of teams racing, no protests can be entered into.
other wise only those competitors racing in the same race as a racing incident can protest that racing incident.

[The Dark One]

Ramjam, stop banging your head against the wall... You'll only hurt yourself. The blind are blind and wont change, not matter how much reason you present them with.

[my2cents]

Has anyone bothered to READ to rules

If 83 did do what he is accused of the he can not be relegated it is either a fine or the whole team is excluded

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Rule R12-4

(c) A competitor forced infield must give way once pushed over the pole line and return to the race once the track is clear.
Passing inside the pole line will attract [glow=red,2,300]either a fine and/or the team may be excluded[/glow]. The infield is not for racing, any vehicles on the infield must disengage from contact and return to the track in the same corner or straight from which they left the track.

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After viewing the video do you think that the Team should have been excluded or the Driver fined