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Post by alleycat137a on May 10, 2011 21:25:25 GMT 12
just reading the championship allocations thread..
who else thinks that 2 days to fix cars & get to palmy for the teams after the nz champs in rotorua isnt enough time???
i know its not confirmed but just wanted to mention it before it does get confirmed.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 21:54:45 GMT 12
Financially it will be a struggle for some, even spectators!
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Post by Tapped on May 10, 2011 22:04:25 GMT 12
Surely they can't be serious? It just won't happen, with drivers or spectators
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Post by Devilracer on May 10, 2011 22:04:32 GMT 12
I can see both sides.
From a promoters view, they will be trying to cast the net to catch those drivers, cars and spectators from the NZs, positive for the promoters if they manage to do this.
From a drivers view, too shorter time and may mean last minute changes to teams and teams not gelling as well as they would have.
As a spectator, i would have to choose one or the other as i have my own champs to run in the same month.
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Post by kessa on May 11, 2011 1:29:45 GMT 12
Must be Wellingtons fault ;D  |
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Post by speedaway on May 11, 2011 7:01:11 GMT 12
I thought Gisbourne were looking at running the north island stockcar champs around New years, correct me if I'm wrong
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Post by BarryB on May 11, 2011 9:13:44 GMT 12
It's 2 work days (Thursday/Friday), but actually 3 days (December 29th, 30th & 31st) if PN were to race January 1st, 4 days if they opt for the January 2nd & 3rd dates.
Unless Rotorua has similar trouble as it did with the Superstocks at the same time last year (wash my mouth out with soap)
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Post by The Observer on May 11, 2011 9:35:19 GMT 12
AS a south islander I think its a great idea. IF we could knock off the two biggest meetings of the year for one ferry crossing, it would make the whole concept of getting there that much more conceivable. I'd hazard a guess and say if Bruce had the ability to turn this vision into reality, you'd have a substantial chance of getting more south island cars than ever before to a NZ title, and potentially 4, at a big stretch, 5 south island teams to the teams champs, if Z Bruce wants them of course (which we assume he does, given the date). 4 teams of 6 drivers equals a potential 24 cars for the NZs, 5 more makes 30, and then we have a huge likely hood of 200 cars at Rotorua, and making history?  Alternatively, I have heard Willie Kay is interested in throwing a spanner in the works, and taking the dates of teams for the GP. Hope that doesn;t happen. Stick to your guns Bruce, just hope we can find out soon and try and get organised. |
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Post by CLIFF on May 11, 2011 16:50:09 GMT 12
I'm with you on that one obby.
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Post by sideshow69 on May 11, 2011 19:37:31 GMT 12
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Post by sandy898 on May 11, 2011 19:56:03 GMT 12
whats on the 5th/6th? |
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Post by percy on May 11, 2011 21:59:30 GMT 12
It has rained 2 years straight in Rotorua at this time hasn't it? NZ Superstocks and North Island Saloons off the top of my head. That has real potential to throw the Teams into disarray.
If it is sunny I think you will find pretty much all the non-qualifying teams cars will give the second night a miss. A move which would make the event poorer as the non-qualifying races often outdo the main event for entertainment value,
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Post by BarryB on May 12, 2011 6:27:44 GMT 12
You don't think a 4 day gap is enough? I feel that if it was too much more than this both meetings could suffer from losing some potential SI entries, so it's a Catch 22. With the GP a factor as well, all 3 tracks will be wanting to attract as many SI cars as possible, and those drivers, families and crews are unlikely to want to spend 3 consecutive weekends (a total of about 19 days from the day before the first meeting to 2 days afterwards allowing for a 1 day rain out).......
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Post by LRT on May 12, 2011 7:08:30 GMT 12
You don't think a 4 day gap is enough? I feel that if it was too much more than this both meetings could suffer from losing some potential SI entries, so it's a Catch 22. With the GP a factor as well, all 3 tracks will be wanting to attract as many SI cars as possible, and those drivers, families and crews are unlikely to want to spend 3 consecutive weekends (a total of about 19 days from the day before the first meeting to 2 days afterwards allowing for a 1 day rain out)....... |
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Post by LRT on May 12, 2011 7:15:44 GMT 12
I was thinking two championship meetings in a week was bit of a push, then someone says there might be three..........  It may make the NZ's one very memorable meeting though. Just imagine if all cars from one club go on a seek and destroy mission on their biggest rival in teams.  Yeah.....Naaaaaaa. I don't like the idea one bit to be honest. |
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Post by woodart on May 12, 2011 8:40:10 GMT 12
there's pro's and con's with trying to pack as many meetings as poss into a short time frame. percy seems to have identified a major possible problem, rainouts  . maybe a contingincy plan to run an abreviated meeting is a good idea. over the last couple of years, with the increasing number of two day meetings we now have, rainouts have been a huge problem.speaking personally, if I had towed 1000K's to race(or had driven 500 K's to spectate), I would rather have an abreviated meeting ,there and then, rather than have to make the, ever more costly, trip back for the whole thing to be rerun. |
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Post by BarryB on May 12, 2011 9:05:44 GMT 12
You can please;
some of the people some of the time
some of the people all of the time
all of the people some of the time
but never all of the people all of the time.
Obby and Ivan are a good example of that - two drivers with totally opposing views. And spectators with differing views from both. Such is life.......
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Post by LRT on May 12, 2011 11:45:24 GMT 12
I know where you're coming from Barry. And I understand it from a south island point of veiw as well. I just look at it this way,
and it may well be wrong ;D
Some drivers put it all on the line every meeting, now with some of the best blockers/hitters in the sport being involved with teams, there is a real possibility of one of two things happening at the NZ's.
There is huge potential for serious car damage, injuries/KO's. Now teams like PN, Well and the like can fill these spots with ease, some of us smaller clubs would be put into a bit of a flusta trying to fill those spots. I mean our club for example, we would be in serious trouble if we lost one driver for any reason. The team we have is the team, there is no reserves, no one lining up to say yep.
Now before you or anyone else say it, I know it's not yours or any one elses problem, never the less, it is a problem.
Sometimes when people don't agree, it's not for the wrong reasons, it's purely because they are looking at it in a different way.
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Post by BarryB on May 12, 2011 13:11:33 GMT 12
I know where you're coming from Barry. Sometimes when people don't agree, it's not for the wrong reasons, it's purely because they are looking at it in a different way. I agree!!!!!!!!! Also sometimes there's no right or wrong answer either..... |
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Post by thewatcher on May 12, 2011 17:27:59 GMT 12
Seem to recall people was moaning and groaning about wellington putting the teams on those dates as of the nz champs and how people wont race ect cant get teams because of dates...
And having both so close will mean less action for the NZ'S as many will save there cars
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;)Hows this 27-28 NZs rotorua ;D ;D:) 
,1-2 GP bay ;D park,5-6 
. maybe a contingincy plan to run an abreviated meeting is a good idea. over the last couple of years, with the increasing number of two day meetings we now have, rainouts have been a huge problem.speaking personally, if I had towed 1000K's to race(or had driven 500 K's to spectate), I would rather have an abreviated meeting ,there and then, rather than have to make the, ever more costly, trip back for the whole thing to be rerun. 
