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Post by percy on Apr 5, 2014 22:45:31 GMT 12
That was a fair dinkum show
Hope Darcy Ward is ok
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 23:24:58 GMT 12
Brilliant nights racing on good track with plenty of passing regardless of what gate number they were on. Top night for german pipping nicki pederson with large capacity crowd we somehow see the sgp retained nz for next year. Whole sgp season looks so exciting
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Post by BarryB on Apr 6, 2014 7:44:17 GMT 12
Wasn't a lot of track width or passing early, and I was worried it was going to be akin to last year, but whether it was the later start of different track prep, things ignited part way through, the best gate(s) to start from definitely changed, and the meeting built nicely to a couple of great semi-finals and a stunning final, just as it should do. There was a surprise winner (outsider of the field other than our wildcard entry) and plenty of agro between the 2nd and 3rd place-getters after the race, officials stepping in. More passing and more incidents than we've seen before all added up to the best NZ SGP ever. I hope Darcy Ward is okay for Rd 2.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 9:32:20 GMT 12
I think there was quite a bit track for the riders niki pederson was sublime where gate positions didnt seem bother him. Hes world class you wouldnt see many sgp meetings where rider has 5 maximum rides. Also that pass on chris Holder was brilliant. Really felt for Darcy ward just night where nothing went right. White gate where german passed nicki that last lap was amazing. Just this morning i have read was one best sgp meetings. Overall it was incredible and am sure most the riders enjoyed last night
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Post by jimmyj on Apr 6, 2014 13:37:16 GMT 12
Notice how the times actually got slower as the night air came
Supprized me that did
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Post by BarryB on Apr 6, 2014 16:30:35 GMT 12
The times getting slower as the track became more exciting was a surprise.
I'm sure the meeting advertising said "entertainment from 4pm" or something to that effect? There was nothing between 4pm and the 6pm start, unless Bill doing 3 laps counts (or a bunch of tired looking Super Hero impersonators wandering around in the crowd?). Did Bill's wife put him on a budget this year?
We were also Dreverless, Derbridgeless and PJ Montgomeryless this year, Nik Brown joining meeaneemic as a 2-mic team, and for the most that worked extremely well although everything about an SGP meeting is so choreographed and scripted it sometimes lacks the excitement and spontaneity that speedway should offer. Nik kept calling the riders "drivers" however (his maths when adding up his fines was a little off too!!), so that kept the mood light!! We got a big build up when all of the competing riders came out just before the racing in half a dozen utes, but then nothing while they did their lap to tell us who they were, what they'd done or even who was in which truck!!
Maybe the advertising re the entertainment was from 2012, as were some of the TV commentators notes (screening on TV3 right now) where they said Bunyon was a 7 time New Zealand champion, as he was when the inaugural event was staged two years ago.
This was definitely the best of the three local SGP's however, although I doubt the crowd was large enough to get us another couple of years. Hopefully I'm wrong about that.
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Post by meeaneemic on Apr 6, 2014 19:40:30 GMT 12
The times getting slower as the track became more exciting was a surprise. I'm sure the meeting advertising said "entertainment from 4pm" or something to that effect? There was nothing between 4pm and the 6pm start, unless Bill doing 3 laps counts (or a bunch of tired looking Super Hero impersonators wandering around in the crowd?). Did Bill's wife put him on a budget this year? We were also Dreverless, Derbridgeless and PJ Montgomeryless this year, Nik Brown joining meeaneemic as a 2-mic team, and for the most that worked extremely well although everything about an SGP meeting is so choreographed and scripted it sometimes lacks the excitement and spontaneity that speedway should offer. Nik kept calling the riders "drivers" however (his maths when adding up his fines was a little off too!!), so that kept the mood light!! We got a big build up when all of the competing riders came out just before the racing in half a dozen utes, but then nothing while they did their lap to tell us who they were, what they'd done or even who was in which truck!! Maybe the advertising re the entertainment was from 2012, as were some of the TV commentators notes (screening on TV3 right now) where they said Bunyon was a 7 time New Zealand champion, as he was when the inaugural event was staged two years ago. This was definitely the best of the three local SGP's however, although I doubt the crowd was large enough to get us another couple of years. Hopefully I'm wrong about that. Barry B I agree about the lack of info while the riders were on the Utes but as you said Barry it is so tightly directed that I couldn't say anything. Nick owes me plenty of cash but ran off without stumping up with it lol. News has come out on an Aussie Sports site that BSI are looking at a potential venue in Melbourne to host a GP as early as 2015. Bill Buckley is not prepared to finance the full freight costs anymore so if Paul Bellamy {BSI} can secure a deal we will have a good chance of the GP returning to NZ. |
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Post by jimmyj on Apr 6, 2014 19:58:20 GMT 12
As i said before about the times getting slower at night maybe one of the informed ones on here can explain why .
Interested to know please ??
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Post by powerbuilt on Apr 6, 2014 20:16:36 GMT 12
The times getting slower as the track became more exciting was a surprise. I'm sure the meeting advertising said "entertainment from 4pm" or something to that effect? There was nothing between 4pm and the 6pm start, unless Bill doing 3 laps counts (or a bunch of tired looking Super Hero impersonators wandering around in the crowd?). Did Bill's wife put him on a budget this year? We were also Dreverless, Derbridgeless and PJ Montgomeryless this year, Nik Brown joining meeaneemic as a 2-mic team, and for the most that worked extremely well although everything about an SGP meeting is so choreographed and scripted it sometimes lacks the excitement and spontaneity that speedway should offer. Nik kept calling the riders "drivers" however (his maths when adding up his fines was a little off too!!), so that kept the mood light!! We got a big build up when all of the competing riders came out just before the racing in half a dozen utes, but then nothing while they did their lap to tell us who they were, what they'd done or even who was in which truck!! Maybe the advertising re the entertainment was from 2012, as were some of the TV commentators notes (screening on TV3 right now) where they said Bunyon was a 7 time New Zealand champion, as he was when the inaugural event was staged two years ago. This was definitely the best of the three local SGP's however, although I doubt the crowd was large enough to get us another couple of years. Hopefully I'm wrong about that. Barry B I agree about the lack of info while the riders were on the Utes but as you said Barry it is so tightly directed that I couldn't say anything. Nick owes me plenty of cash but ran off without stumping up with it lol. News has come out on an Aussie Sports site that BSI are looking at a potential venue in Melbourne to host a GP as early as 2015. Bill Buckley is not prepared to finance the full freight costs anymore so if Paul Bellamy {BSI} can secure a deal we will have a good chance of the GP returning to NZ. Interesting the TV 3 are saying that is a done deal already for Melbourne, and no Auckland. As I understand it talks still going on to secure a round in Aussie with Jason Crump heading the group which includes several other ex Aussie riders who have raced in the GP. |
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Post by meeaneemic on Apr 6, 2014 20:22:02 GMT 12
As i said before about the times getting slower at night maybe one of the informed ones on here can explain why . Interested to know please ?? It's a good question as heat 1 was 64.0 sec and just outside Darcy's record of 63.66. I honestly thought within a heat or 2 it would be broken but times got as high as 68 sec in one of Nicki's wins. The entry of the turns out wide were quite heavy so most riders were going in tighter and letting the bike run up high which kills a bit of momentum at the apex. Chris Harris fell as a direct result of hitting the deep stuff going into turn 3 out wide. The bottom was good for perhaps the first two rounds but really after that most riders had to avoid the patchy parts which were catching some out. Once the inside went slick times kept climbing and Smolinski rode a brave race in the final using the patchy track down low to find grip. The reason I say that was a brave race was because the inside line caught him out big time when he piled into Darcy so to be fully committed down there again in that magic final took some guts. It was the best track produced for the GP of the 3 staged so far |
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Post by midway on Apr 6, 2014 21:05:12 GMT 12
Notice how the times actually got slower as the night air came Supprized me that did Macgor may of been eating Hotdogs someplace ,and releasing compressed gas do you think ?? |
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Post by sonic33 on Apr 6, 2014 21:09:09 GMT 12
Watching on TV today, the advertising breaks were crap. Either CRC or Buckly got their money.
I stopped watching and recorded it, as the breaks were crazy.
Great racing from the guys.
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Post by jimmyj on Apr 7, 2014 6:17:23 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 7:07:09 GMT 12
Im really suprised does return Australia lost whole lot of money when was last raced there 2002. I felt people auckland did embrace the series going be darn shame loose it after 3 years. I think more because nz doesnt have any recognized riders possibly decision why crowds were down last year. Reports were 10,000 capacity actually i thought was more place was packed with not alot empty places i could see. Must say eventhough doesnt appear like it'll return nz like say thanks mr buckley giving us 3 years unbelievable racing with speedway bikes
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Post by BarryB on Apr 7, 2014 7:44:04 GMT 12
I wouldn't have thought any more than 10,000 personally, since they've been quoting 15,000 the first year and 8,000 last year. I think it looked a wee bit up on last year (maybe), but people weren't really squashed up too close (like in 2012), and there was plenty of room down at the end of the back straight and on turns 3 & 4 (for the bikes, what is turns 1 & 2 normally). The extra stand was new obviously, but there weren't many people in that.
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Post by epmurc on Apr 7, 2014 10:26:34 GMT 12
Went last year and certainly enjoyed it more this year, knowing more about what to expect and what to look for. You'd have to go a long way to find a better race in any sort of motorsport than that final.
Interesting on the crowd numbers. If you used the estimates given by the commentators at various times during the regular season as a base, by comparison on Saturday there would have been 20 000 rather than 9000. The terraces had a lot more people on them than normal, the bends especially as you weren't getting dust and mud fired at you.
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Post by BarryB on Apr 7, 2014 11:25:03 GMT 12
The NZ Herald states 9125 as the attendance.
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Post by BarryB on Apr 7, 2014 12:15:03 GMT 12
Interesting on the crowd numbers. If you used the estimates given by the commentators at various times during the regular season as a base, by comparison on Saturday there would have been 20 000 rather than 9000. Yes, I think we've been fed some porkies at times over crowd numbers. Barry B |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 12:19:33 GMT 12
Im not sure where they get their numbers from. Definitely more than 9000+ Been quoted in todays paper main terraces were chocker than what i would say what we had midget intl series. $120 seats were near being full and wheres temporary stand around block 15 and 16. Was pretty empty rest of the stadium looked larger than i have seen even back 2012 event
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Post by BarryB on Apr 7, 2014 12:29:30 GMT 12
Funny how people look at things differently eh. Personally I'd of said the crowd was nowhere near as large as back in 2012, but am no expert on the subject. If year 1 was 15,000 and year 2 was 8,000 (as previously quoted by the paper), I'd say just over 9,000 was pretty close to the mark.
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