bandit
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Post by bandit on Nov 4, 2014 19:48:49 GMT 12
Can i get some advice on where to get another set of rear shocks for our Datsun ministock as the right rear on our one is buggered and leaking out the top.
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Post by tank11 on Nov 4, 2014 21:00:09 GMT 12
Repco, B&T or super cheap
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Post by hoot72m on Nov 7, 2014 6:38:56 GMT 12
Iuse holden commodore gas just make sure they are the same length
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Post by tank11 on Nov 7, 2014 20:09:57 GMT 12
Iuse holden commodore gas just make sure they are the same length How is that donor parts? sometimes you just have to wonder?
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Post by tank11 on Nov 8, 2014 7:54:59 GMT 12
Hence why I said earlier, repco,B&T and supercheap.
They need to be the correct OEM replacement.
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Post by Roger Ex 35A on Nov 8, 2014 8:58:47 GMT 12
[been told by a major shock importer/distributor that they have been advised by SNZ tech that they cannot knowingly supply alternative part numbers to ministock competitors.[/p] Very interested to get a qualified clarification if this is not the case? [/quote] Find that very hard to believe, I know a lot of people think that SNZ have a lot of power but telling a business they can not sell a certain part to some one is not one of those powers [/p]
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bandit
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Post by bandit on Nov 8, 2014 11:39:44 GMT 12
sometimes you just have to wonder? We have had shock absorber part numbers checked for correct OEM part replacement for green sheeting and been told by a major shock importer/distributor that they have been advised by SNZ tech that they cannot knowingly supply alternative part numbers to ministock competitors. Very interested to get a qualified clarification if this is not the case?
Can you please post the parts number so i have a start point to work from.From what i have found cnline theres a few?
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Post by fullrevs on Nov 13, 2014 13:40:37 GMT 12
Always try local car wreckers first - if you get stuck , let me know as we have a very good Nissan wrecker up these ways - I guess that its cracked at the top - if so , give it to your local engineer , see if it can be welded , brazed , and run the now degased repaired shock on the left handside and the former left on the right. We ran a degased shock on the STD (left rear ) slows down the rebound - also took all rebound out of the flash harry adjustables (left rear only )on the super .
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bandit
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Post by bandit on Nov 13, 2014 17:34:24 GMT 12
Have been to Supercheap, parts number i gave them for Nissan shocks off the kyb parts list no longer matches.So we have sent the measured length compressed and extended so they can work it out from there.Nothing so far seems to be straight forward with these bloody cars but thanks for all the advice.Also is it best to go gas or oil i have ordered oil shocks.
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Post by tank11 on Nov 13, 2014 19:40:01 GMT 12
go gas
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Post by repairer on Nov 13, 2014 19:47:25 GMT 12
Hi try repco or your local shock shop MONROE Gas 15-01115 Ashley Reid
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Post by Buzz87h on Mar 22, 2015 19:33:18 GMT 12
One of the problems is that we are allowed to cut down the original springs. Once you do this you re-rate them to a much higher force. It therefore follows that the original shocks or their OEM replacements are not designed to control this spring rate which leads to all sorts of problems. I stood on the infield at Huntly speedway as a rookie flagman at the recent Futures of Speedway meeting and my observation was that at least 70% of incidents were caused by poor suspension and/or setup.
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Post by tank11 on Mar 23, 2015 17:52:13 GMT 12
One of the problems is that we are allowed to cut down the original springs. Once you do this you re-rate them to a much higher force. It therefore follows that the original shocks or their OEM replacements are not designed to control this spring rate which leads to all sorts of problems. I stood on the infield at Huntly speedway as a rookie flagman at the recent Futures of Speedway meeting and my observation was that at least 70% of incidents were caused by poor suspension and/or setup. Why would you cut your springs? You can have them compressed, reset and re-tempered which maintains the rate. The point of the intent of the class is to keep everyone on a level playing field. We recently raced against ministocks with adjustable shocks??? The problem is not with the reg's but the lack of qualified, impartial checking and punishment of the now huge numbers cheating, as evidenced by the recent "knee jerk" reaction to further regulate the class rather than simply inspect cars, which is what we were sold our last fee increase was to fund. THIS, totally THIS. These don't need new rules, just use the existing and make the consequences stick.
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Post by stikshift87 on Mar 23, 2015 20:24:34 GMT 12
7N I agree with everything you said apart from your claim that there are huge numbers cheating. How do you justify this. More than half the cars I observe on a regular basis are poorly maintained and set up negating any attempt at circumventing the rules. In regards to cutting springs you should have discovered that the standard spring rates are insufficient to keep the cars stable when driven hard on todays track surfaces. I have developed my own spring and shock package that hugely improves the cars stability over most track conditions and significantly improves braking performance. I use OEM replacement springs and off the shelf shocks that cost much less than $100 per corner on the rears with standard OEM replacement cartridges in the front. The benefits to safety and reducing damage are measurable. It also gives the driver much more confidence and enhances their racing experience at a relatively low cost. If we could get SNZ to standardise packages for each variant and also with other variables on the cars such as tyres, diff ratios etc they would be much easier to check than at present and would go a long way to levelling the playing field. I have also made submissions to SNZ in regards to regulating and policing the class but so far they seem to be embarking on some largely ineffective initiatives.
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