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Post by beachboy on Jan 30, 2015 20:57:47 GMT 12
Cost's are coming down on LED's, how about Red LED rope lights around the whole fence. Would be seen from nearly every angel-position.
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Post by Shai-tan on Jan 30, 2015 21:07:58 GMT 12
Pretty sure Formula 1 had issues with this kind of system last season, its not a bad idea but not sure how it would hold up in Stockcars.
I reckon go for the LEDs like Wellington for the NZ Champs and have them flash green once the winner passes the chequered flag.
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Post by superford on Jan 30, 2015 21:09:18 GMT 12
Aside from the recent big episode, I don't recall big issues with hits after the lights in recent history. Correct me if I am wrong. Is this a knee jerk reaction? At the NZGP for Stockcars this season at Meeanee, this hit below and the preceeding hit where 15b put 17p up the wall were both after the flag. The return serve from 17p was a full noise wind off... (there was a photo here, but the boss edited it out) |
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Post by Shai-tan on Jan 30, 2015 21:12:26 GMT 12
Aside from the recent big episode, I don't recall big issues with hits after the lights in recent history. Correct me if I am wrong. Is this a knee jerk reaction? At the NZGP for Stockcars this season at Meeanee, this hit below and the preceeding hit where 15b put 17p up the wall were both after the flag. The return serve from 17p was a full noise wind off... [Wasn't intentionally illegal but Blair Cunningham took out Thomas Stanaway after the chequered in Nelson a few years back when Stanaway had his old car, had him up the wall right at the Chequered flag and got trailed for the night. |
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2015 21:25:53 GMT 12
Hard to beat men waving red rags on sticks. I can think of no better more reliable system. Until one of them get knocked off there feet. I've seen some close calls with them. Maybe the should get eyes in the back of there head. This thread should be locked now it's served its purpose They don't get knocked off their feet when they're on the outside of the fence, not sure why you want to lock the thread. There is no harm in chucking ideas around. |
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2015 21:29:31 GMT 12
Rather than lights how about a one-way radio system? We've used it at Western Springs for some seasons now. Initially there were a lot of issues with it but this season in particular it seems to be working really well. Rather than having lights on the dashboard an official could announce over the one-way radio system when the reds/yellows are activated. Perhaps the official could also announce when the first car crosses the line for the chequered flag so competitors know the race is over next time they cross the start/finish line. My way for the finish at least would notify everyone the end is nigh. Wellington looked to have a good thing going with the LED's although I wasn't there in person. Some simple changes to track light systems would be cheaper and likely more reliable than radios. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 21:32:14 GMT 12
The biggest danger in the contact classes seems to be drivers not seeing reds when its daylight. Ideas How to solve that? Hard to beat men waving red rags on sticks. I can think of no better more reliable system. Is there an app for that? Would you need to download these men and rag separate or is there a site where they come as a package? My point, and I guess Macgors as well, sometimes we look for technology to solve all our problems, when often the best idea is one we have been using all along |
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2015 21:33:29 GMT 12
The Kaikoura system was pretty effective
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Post by percy on Jan 30, 2015 21:45:00 GMT 12
Rather than lights how about a one-way radio system? We've used it at Western Springs for some seasons now. Initially there were a lot of issues with it but this season in particular it seems to be working really well. Rather than having lights on the dashboard an official could announce over the one-way radio system when the reds/yellows are activated. Perhaps the official could also announce when the first car crosses the line for the chequered flag so competitors know the race is over next time they cross the start/finish line. My way for the finish at least would notify everyone the end is nigh. Wellington looked to have a good thing going with the LED's although I wasn't there in person. Some simple changes to track light systems would be cheaper and likely more reliable than radios. There have been no reliability issues this season. Don't know if the radio's were used at Huntly so can't comment if racing at a different track causes issues. One way radio's would also have additional benefits. Officials can more efficiently re-order fields under yellow or tell drivers to back up under reds. The radio's would also give the ability for officials to communicate with drivers to enable more efficient gridding up and track packing. |
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Post by theothermikeyb on Jan 30, 2015 21:45:57 GMT 12
god I miss Kaikoura - needed that video about now, wish I could remember who took out the water tank at the last meeting
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2015 21:54:01 GMT 12
My way for the finish at least would notify everyone the end is nigh. Wellington looked to have a good thing going with the LED's although I wasn't there in person. Some simple changes to track light systems would be cheaper and likely more reliable than radios. There have been no reliability issues this season. Don't know if the radio's were used at Huntly so can't comment if racing at a different track causes issues. One way radio's would also have additional benefits. Officials can more efficiently re-order fields under yellow or tell drivers to back up under reds. The radio's would also give the ability for officials to communicate with drivers to enable more efficient gridding up and track packing. I'm sure a case can be mounted for radios but really I fear problems due to the physical nature of Stockcar racing not to mention the added expense to drivers. I dread the thought of a system failure causing a monumental incident because the drivers are relying on them. I've not seen the radio system in practice aside from the Super Saloon series that ran here a few seasons ago. There seemed to be as much mucking about as ever on that occasion. |
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Post by beachboy on Jan 30, 2015 22:07:54 GMT 12
No point having flashing green lights when there's a dust storm on the track when nobody can see the lights. How often does the transponder break in a crash?If the Reds were in the cars dash how would that not work. It's only those airline ones that play up every now and then  |
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Post by PeterB on Jan 31, 2015 5:43:20 GMT 12
No point having flashing green lights when there's a dust storm on the track when nobody can see the lights. How often does the transponder break in a crash?If the Reds were in the cars dash how would that not work. It's only those airline ones that play up every now and then Lol, when the battery runs flat |
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Post by speedracer on Jan 31, 2015 6:25:23 GMT 12
What about an LED overhead lap counter that way even spectators would know how many laps to go
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Post by tony27 on Jan 31, 2015 7:48:50 GMT 12
The red LED strips at the wellington speedway were fantastic at the NZS!! Bruce Robertson obviously thought so as well, there was 1 of each in turn 1 & 3 for the first time, hopefully more to come |
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Post by Skorp on Jan 31, 2015 7:53:42 GMT 12
The red LED strips at the wellington speedway were fantastic at the NZS!! Bruce Robertson obviously thought so as well, there was 1 of each in turn 1 & 3 for the first time, hopefully more to come There was also one in turn 2, and I think also in turn 4 |
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Post by Hoosier on Jan 31, 2015 8:26:14 GMT 12
Hard to beat men waving red rags on sticks. I can think of no better more reliable system. Until one of them get knocked off there feet. I've seen some close calls with them. Maybe the should get eyes in the back of there head. This thread should be locked now it's served its purpose It always amuses me when someone has their say and then follows it up with "this thread should be locked" As if to say,my word is final, therefore the thread is now worthless, lets move on......  Im not a big crash and bash fan,but the thread discussion is pretty good IMHO |
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Post by spdwayorthehway on Jan 31, 2015 8:33:30 GMT 12
How often does this situation even become a problem.
A penalty was applied and the other party can probably thank the lucky stars it didn't happen under full race pace with a big hit.
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Post by rangi on Jan 31, 2015 8:42:59 GMT 12
What about a set up where once the winning car has passed the final flag a light flashes on there dash then they have so many seconds before go all car go's into limp mode as such,im sure daytona go karts in hamilton have a simple set up like this on there go karts
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Post by Hoosier on Jan 31, 2015 8:56:12 GMT 12
Firstly thats just simply cost prohibitive
Secondly the karts doin that are DC powered and at Mangere
Automatically going into limp mode would be disastrous if the technology failed at the wrong time.
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