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Post by Admin on Feb 8, 2015 20:51:36 GMT 12
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Post by chunkey on Feb 8, 2015 20:52:18 GMT 12
The writings on the wall, the money's in the bank... He's a cheat he's a whatever. At the end of the day it's done and dusted let's move on cos no matter what is said the results ain't going to change. It's only 52 weeks till the next Teams champs. Thanks for a great weekend palmy:)
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Post by boner87 on Feb 8, 2015 20:56:47 GMT 12
Well done macgor
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Post by boner87 on Feb 8, 2015 20:58:34 GMT 12
there was an appeal on the result is that correct as teams are no longer able to lodge protests is that better  No Not really, it was a stupid question. Who do you think declared a result? Do you think the Panthers decleared they were the winner and the Ref appealed that? Ok for the newbies out there, a ref signs off on a result (declares a result). If any team wants to bring any matter up relating to that result they can lodge an appeal. An appeal that overturns a teams race result is as unusal as seeing feathers on a horse. Just to make it clear a ref doesn't mount an appeal against his own decission Um Im pretty sure they can't protest a result but can only appeal a refs decision not sign off on results |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 21:00:58 GMT 12
excellant work @macgor that was deffo the way I saw it as well he knew he was coming off the grass so broke contact and slowed slightly. As far as I can tell 8p was 100% in the right. I was suprised to hear this wasthe incident ppl wanted him burned at the steak four stake for
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Post by kevin888 on Feb 8, 2015 21:01:47 GMT 12
well as they say it is what it is,so bring on next year to give us something else to chat about
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Post by kevin888 on Feb 8, 2015 21:04:13 GMT 12
so who has leased dave tarrants car?
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Post by Admin on Feb 8, 2015 21:04:12 GMT 12
Looks to be well clear of the pole to me Was earlier then this i believe macgor. was on the grass just a little bit more then the time he cut it with 2 wheels to push bengsten out of the way and get in behind remnant before rolling him half a lap later  I reacted to the posts about 8p crossing the pole to get 57p into a position where 88p got him. The other incident is a nothing too. Watch the video , there was no attacking from the pole line and contact with Remnant was made when all cars were on the track half a lap later. It's not actually illegal to cross the pole line , heck there would have been sod all cars left racing if that was the case. I've done best to explain this stuff , time for a rest. I don't mind people disagreeing but refrain from calling these guys cheats please. |
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Feb 8, 2015 21:06:33 GMT 12
Never used the word cheat, just opening discussion with my post.
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Post by Admin on Feb 8, 2015 21:08:11 GMT 12
No Not really, it was a stupid question. Who do you think declared a result? Do you think the Panthers decleared they were the winner and the Ref appealed that? Ok for the newbies out there, a ref signs off on a result (declares a result). If any team wants to bring any matter up relating to that result they can lodge an appeal. An appeal that overturns a teams race result is as unusal as seeing feathers on a horse. Just to make it clear a ref doesn't mount an appeal against his own decission Um Im pretty sure they can't protest a result but can only appeal a refs decision not sign off on results I may have assumed the wrong thing but I thought the Ref may have ruled against the Panthers and it was they who appealed. The Brawlers would have been hoping the end result was to their advantage. Could be totally wrong with my thinking though. Perhaps someone thought there was a lap scoring error?. |
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Post by Admin on Feb 8, 2015 21:08:59 GMT 12
Never used the word cheat, just opening discussion with my post. Not you , I've been deleting a few |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 21:13:11 GMT 12
Um Im pretty sure they can't protest a result but can only appeal a refs decision not sign off on results I may have assumed the wrong thing but I thought the Ref may have ruled against the Panthers and it was they who appealed. The Brawlers would have been hoping the end result was to their advantage. Could be totally wrong with my thinking though. Perhaps someone thought there was a lap scoring error?. unless I've got the wrong end of what boner87 is saying, results have to be posted, you can't not have a result, and for that result to be posted the ref must sign it off. Edit: Sorry posted mid thoughts... I assumed the ref had given the Panthers the win and it was appealed by the Baypark team, for whatever reason. All of which goes to show why someone should relay why what has happened did back to the announcers. Look at American Football, a flag never gets thrown in the NFL without the ref explaining why to the crowd. Makes it so easy to follow |
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Post by kevin888 on Feb 8, 2015 21:13:32 GMT 12
As an aside Dave Tarrant has announced that last night was his last night of racing. The car has been leased until sold. Great way to go out don't ya reckon? so who has leased it? |
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Post by beachboy on Feb 8, 2015 21:13:48 GMT 12
well as they say it is what it is,so bring on next year to give us something else to chat about Yeah the return of the G maybe? |
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Post by Admin on Feb 8, 2015 21:16:36 GMT 12
I may have assumed the wrong thing but I thought the Ref may have ruled against the Panthers and it was they who appealed. The Brawlers would have been hoping the end result was to their advantage. Could be totally wrong with my thinking though. Perhaps someone thought there was a lap scoring error?. unless I've got the wrong end of what boner87 is saying, results have to be posted, you can't not have a result, and for that result to be posted the ref must sign it off. They did say the result was on hold and there was reference to waiting for the Ref's decision. Commentator was calling it a protest, perhaps just to wind us all up.  |
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Post by gray40 on Feb 8, 2015 21:19:01 GMT 12
At the end of the day had it been another team making a small infringement/s like Mires did there would have been a penalty applied as Stratford and the Tigers have found out over the last few years. Mires jumped the start the commentator clearly spotted this and pointed it out, as for checking up, didn't see him coming to a stop and restarting! His momentum from the jump start eventually let him lend a hand at slowing the lead car down changing the race lead. Also interesting was Mires post race short speech (or back stab), it was clear there are fractions in the Panthers and maybe he has the support of the promotion-bosses-refs on his side hence them not picking on his minor infringements which in my view they got right anyway. I think what gets other supporters frustrated is that other teams have been pinged over the years for minor stuff which has put them out of the running. It took another two and a half complete laps and another red light (due to another wheel on the track) before I think it was 88P whom put Bevan into the wall on turn 3, so even if 8p did jump the green two reds before, (in my opinion) I don,t belive that the 1 mtr or so that 8P may have picked up changed the course of the race. Also 2P was right on Bevan's bumper when the first red came on! |
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Post by Ugmo on Feb 8, 2015 21:22:09 GMT 12
What should of happened with the red light jump? Race stopped and he removed from the track as he was the one putting pressure on 54v after that restart so had a major effect on the outcome of the race. Just quoting my own post here in the hope someone will answer me as I haven't been around the traps for a while, not referring to Mier's as a cheat or anything just wondering what the punishment is for jumping a start/restart? Move cars back to the red light positions and go again like at race start?? |
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Post by BarryB on Feb 8, 2015 21:24:47 GMT 12
Purely speculation, but; As only the head referee makes the calls during the race, but has spotters in place around the track to assist, perhaps they reported something back after the race which needed to be discussed and thus the official results were held back meantime? And somehow that delay got called a protest?
Barry B
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Post by 3nz1nz on Feb 8, 2015 21:28:03 GMT 12
See the red light in turn 2 ?? Beside the red car..but how far did this car travel ended in turn 3 and start in turn 3 under a red light and never got put BACK..makes my Blood red too. Yet a car was hang on the wall got down and moved a foot then the reds come on and they put him back a foot, that car wasn't a p car either.  |
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Post by boner87 on Feb 8, 2015 21:29:42 GMT 12
I may have assumed the wrong thing but I thought the Ref may have ruled against the Panthers and it was they who appealed. The Brawlers would have been hoping the end result was to their advantage. Could be totally wrong with my thinking though. Perhaps someone thought there was a lap scoring error?. unless I've got the wrong end of what boner87 is saying, results have to be posted, you can't not have a result, and for that result to be posted the ref must sign it off. Edit: Sorry posted mid thoughts... I assumed the ref had given the Panthers the win and it was appealed by the Baypark team, for whatever reason. All of which goes to show why someone should relay why what has happened did back to the announcers. Look at American Football, a flag never gets thrown in the NFL without the ref explaining why to the crowd. Makes it so easy to follow Well the bingo board commentary team came across saying that the result was on hold due to an appeal by the brawlers and then probably 20 seconds later in the same breathe that the panthers win blah blah blah. Unless a ref wants to put us all in our place I think we'll never know the actual truth |
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