Remits (Read 10,909 times)

[japsuper]

I see the saloon 4 valve rule has been put aside for another day, probably needs a bit more thought.
I still laugh at some of the rules which have been there for years and supposedly tidied up. The weight table still only applies to 4 , 6 and 8 cylinder vehicles. Cant wait to get my super lightweight Audi 5 cylinder out there. Or maybe a V12 Jag to spice things up...............

[percy]

Apr 17, 2015 15:25:33 GMT 12 BarryB said:

I think Percy will want to start off around the Remit 59 mark, Remits 59, 60, 61 should tickle his fancy, Remit 62 is a MUST for Percy, and I reckon Remit 73 will draw a bit of comment as well.

The way I read Remit 59, in a 3-heat championship, we could have "Driver A" starting behind "Driver B" in all 3 heats?!?!?!

Barry B

I've just found my chair again having fallen off at the prospect of Peewee Solos having a New Zealand title courtesy of remit #7. Who comes up with this stuff?

I've got a lot of thoughts on some of these remits but I must say I'm aghast at remit #62. What possessed someone to try and get rid of the cone? The cone is the hardest working inanimate object at the speedway and has a cult following amongst speedway fans. The cone has been popularised by the commentary of Aaron Drever and it would be a great shame to see the cone go.

Did you know the cone has it's own twitter account with near on 70,000 followers?

Save the Cone

[Parrot]

Why shouldnt the kids solos have a NZ champion. If NZ is serious about ever having a rider in the SGP or team in the SWC then thats exactly what we need. Poland has national championships for 5 year olds. Thats why they have 4 riders in the SGP in 48 hours time and we have 0

[bikeboy]

if national titles come in for Productions saloons and mini stocks, wait for all hell to break loose, I dont think thats a good idea,

also, having a all in one rule to bring them in is not good either, i believe they should all be voted in on their won merits,

[dutchy 72t]

Crate engines for everyone...

[BarryB]

Apr 18, 2015 3:45:46 GMT 12 Parrot said:

Why shouldnt the kids solos have a NZ champion. If NZ is serious about ever having a rider in the SGP or team in the SWC then thats exactly what we need. Poland has national championships for 5 year olds. Thats why they have 4 riders in the SGP in 48 hours time and we have 0

Isn't it in 24 hours time from the time of your post? I'd hate you to miss the first one!!!

Seriously though, I don't think THAT is the reason why Poland are leading New Zealand 4-0. In New Zealand such championships would be about the parents, something that we don't need. Junior classes and feeder/regional classes are not the places we need to be putting in NZ titles in my opinion. They are progressional classes, leaving the drivers to aspire to move up to a national class.

Barry B

[mcfly]

Apr 17, 2015 0:37:27 GMT 12 Rusty said:

Ministock 15mm restrictor plates engine builders will be rubbing there hands together does no one in snz realuse these cause washin g the bire and blowen motors. Have a mobile dyno set a hp at the wheelz do what u want but has to be under a certain hp

There's only 2 types of engine in this class isn't there?
Bring in a $1k claimer rule. That would surely stop people spending big on engines.

[BarryB]

Who funds the mobile dyno required at each track Rusty? We'd need 15-20 of them I imagine.

And would a claimer rule really work in NZ? It's often been mooted for different classes on here, but I don't recall ever seeing a remit being put before the members.

Barry B

[Admin]

Apr 18, 2015 10:39:23 GMT 12 BarryB said:

Who funds the mobile dyno required at each track Rusty? We'd need 15-20 of them I imagine.

And would a claimer rule really work in NZ? It's often been mooted for different classes on here, but I don't recall ever seeing a remit being put before the members.

Barry B

I see an extra income source for tracks if this claimer rule was brought in as used at 5 flags speedway. Rule C is what I'm referring to.

Claim rule

A. The top four finishers in the feature are subject to an engine claim by a driver
finishing fifth or back, still running on the lead lap. The driver claiming must provide
$1000.00 Cash. ($100 which is non refundable)

B. Failure to honor claim will result in automatic disqualification and suspension. All
claims must be presented in writing to head tech official before start of feature, along with cash.

C. Promoter has the option to claim the winning engine for $1000.00 and auction engine at the end of the event.

[midway]

Apr 18, 2015 3:45:46 GMT 12 Parrot said:

Why shouldnt the kids solos have a NZ champion. If NZ is serious about ever having a rider in the SGP or team in the SWC then thats exactly what we need. Poland has national championships for 5 year olds. Thats why they have 4 riders in the SGP in 48 hours time and we have 0

Maybe if the age was lifted to a more realistic view point i couldnt agree more .Having read some of the other view points on here ,my gut feeling is that we have to move forward in this sport ..There are to many interests from so many that have antiquated thoughts and influence others in remits which stagnates the sport from future progress .
The younger generation in this modern,day clearly shows a great more determination and enthusiasm as well ,which needs to be addressed by those of authority ,but of course most in the top order are still in the stone age in simple terms, so we as a sport suffer through the lack of progression .

[Rusty]

Apr 18, 2015 10:39:23 GMT 12 BarryB said:

Who funds the mobile dyno required at each track Rusty? We'd need 15-20 of them I imagine.

And would a claimer rule really work in NZ? It's often been mooted for different classes on here, but I don't recall ever seeing a remit being put before the members.

Barry B

one mobile dyno each island. If you arnt under when it comes to you. You dont race untill your under.

[brettgrace]

Apr 18, 2015 13:25:34 GMT 12 midway said:

Maybe if the age was lifted to a more realistic view point i couldnt agree more .Having read some of the other view points on here ,my gut feeling is that we have to move forward in this sport ..There are to many interests from so many that have antiquated thoughts and influence others in remits which stagnates the sport from future progress .
The younger generation in this modern,day clearly shows a great more determination and enthusiasm as well ,which needs to be addressed by those of authority ,but of course most in the top order are still in the stone age in simple terms, so we as a sport suffer through the lack of progression .

darned good post uncle midway. darned good.

[brettgrace]

Seriously D A M N E D is blocked?!! I NEED AN ADULT! I NEED AN ADULT!!

[holden23c]

if a car causes the red light and reffs call could be cause they may be in a dangerous positions so would you rather get hurt or come off in good health

[Deleted]

Apr 18, 2015 23:59:33 GMT 12 Rusty said:

Apr 18, 2015 10:39:23 GMT 12 BarryB said:

Who funds the mobile dyno required at each track Rusty? We'd need 15-20 of them I imagine.

And would a claimer rule really work in NZ? It's often been mooted for different classes on here, but I don't recall ever seeing a remit being put before the members.

Barry B

one mobile dyno each island. If you arnt under when it comes to you. You dont race untill your under.

Problem with that idea rusty - you then have to either wait for ages before it comes back to you, or travel a helluva long way to the mobile dyno and possibly still not be able to race.

Atmospheric conditions change the reading of a dyno, theres no way you can set one up outside and have it read read exactly the same one day to the next.


as for the claimer rule = I sure as hell wouldnt want my ford engine claimed if it meant I was getting a chev, that means changing gearbox, engine mounts, clutch, driveshaft and if its a saloon then also Body panels, re reg as a chev car instead of a ford etc...

If the class you raced had a requirement of a crate engine then yeah sure, maintain "parity" and let the better drivers dominate to the point that no one wants to race against them - but there is NO class in new zealand which has a crate engine as the only legal engine. even six shooters - they require a commodore v6 ONLY - but they can have standard, mild and worked v6 commy engines.

[scorpion]

Six Shooters can't have mild or worked engines,the motors are virtually standard apart from the after market engine kit,which is built to spec.

[Deleted]

youre allowed =

40 though overbore
aftermarket valve springs

I call that mild since its not standard and will raise the hp of the engine

maybe not worked - but not standard.

[scorpion]

Rule States
Engine
T10-6-2 (J) valve springs maybe replaced with after market springs that comply to the same physical dimensions as OEM springs

[tank11]

Apr 20, 2015 9:06:28 GMT 12 scorpion said:

Rule States
Engine
T10-6-2 (J) valve springs maybe replaced with after market springs that comply to the same physical dimensions as OEM springs

Physical not tension.

[Deleted]

Apr 20, 2015 9:06:28 GMT 12 scorpion said:

Rule States
Engine
T10-6-2 (J) valve springs maybe replaced with after market springs that comply to the same physical dimensions as OEM springs

lol... still aftermarket - therefore, not standard.