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Post by conrod on Jan 9, 2019 18:07:09 GMT 12
Less than 4 weeks out And still 2 big Meets to run but its been pretty quite on how this event is shaping up. Anyone know Much ??
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Post by 4zfed on Jan 9, 2019 18:55:54 GMT 12
Will be very interesting to see the make up of the Panthers & Mustangs with Miers & 2 x Taniwhas out..Hemi has not done anything to justify being a Panther.
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Post by conrod on Jan 9, 2019 19:06:52 GMT 12
Will be very interesting to see the make up of the Panthers & Mustangs with Miers & 2 x Taniwhas out..Hemi has not done anything to justify being a Panther. Palmy looking a bit decimated for 2 strong teams be interesting to see how many teams line up this year |
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Post by 4zfed on Jan 9, 2019 19:34:27 GMT 12
Will Nelson Auckland Wanganui & WaiKato have teams??
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Post by Jeffery on Jan 9, 2019 20:39:34 GMT 12
Will Nelson Auckland Wanganui & WaiKato have teams?? Wanganui should be fine.. If the others make it, Iād say there'd be a number of ringins. Also, the likes of R Tye who fills gaps looked to have a major engine issue at NZs? |
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Post by Jeffery on Jan 9, 2019 20:47:03 GMT 12
Will be very interesting to see the make up of the Panthers & Mustangs with Miers & 2 x Taniwhas out..Hemi has not done anything to justify being a Panther. Palmy looking a bit decimated for 2 strong teams be interesting to see how many teams line up this yearĀ 581, 94, 52, 62, 72, 71, 58, 591, 722? 599? 31? You could be right. One strong team and the Mustangs of the early 2000s looking a bit weaker than what we have seen last few years |
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Post by mordecai on Jan 9, 2019 20:49:16 GMT 12
Panthers be ok just 1 change from last year as jack is out
Mustang's will be very interesting selection maybe 3 x joblin ace melsop
Wanganui should have team
Tigers I'm guessing nope but they will do there best to get a team like last year
Auckland who knows
Waikato shld have a team
Scrappers yes
Hawkeyes yes
Rebels yes
Busters yes
Chch yes
Lion confirmed
Giants yes
Wildcats yes
So I'm sure we will have min 12 teams
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 21:10:43 GMT 12
I don't know how many times I've said on here about different things related to speedway that less is more. IMHO it applies to this championship. 12 teams is the perfect number for the perfect format, 4 groups of 3 racing round robin within their group. While it's all good and well to have 13 or 14 teams, can we really say the first night's racing is better than when the group format was used?
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Post by Jeffery on Jan 9, 2019 21:13:07 GMT 12
I don't know how many times I've said on here about different things related to speedway that less is more. IMHO it applies to this championship. 12 teams is the perfect number for the perfect format, 4 groups of 3 racing round robin within their group. While it's all good and well to have 13 or 14 teams, can we really say the first night's racing is better than when the group format was used? No 12 team format is best. Top of each group Tier 1, second Tier 2. |
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Post by mordecai on Jan 9, 2019 21:24:37 GMT 12
I don't know how many times I've said on here about different things related to speedway that less is more. IMHO it applies to this championship. 12 teams is the perfect number for the perfect format, 4 groups of 3 racing round robin within their group. While it's all good and well to have 13 or 14 teams, can we really say the first night's racing is better than when the group format was used? Yes 12 is perfect for tab multi betting but I don't mind 14 teams and teams will start to realize that ya have to go hard and get extra points as the Hawkeye and busters have found our in recent years unbeaten night 1 and still miss top 4 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 21:24:51 GMT 12
I don't know how many times I've said on here about different things related to speedway that less is more. IMHO it applies to this championship. 12 teams is the perfect number for the perfect format, 4 groups of 3 racing round robin within their group. While it's all good and well to have 13 or 14 teams, can we really say the first night's racing is better than when the group format was used? No 12 team format is best. Top of each group Tier 1, second Tier 2. Instead of this nonsense that so many ppl have trouble working out where the team who comes 6th on night 1 can still come 3rd in the championship I'd rather see the 12 team - 4 grp format reinstated. The 4 group winners race their semis then final & 3rd /4th race. The other 8 teams go into a plate type champs with 8 teams, straight knock out, drawn by finish positions from night 1 (grp 1, 2nd place races grp 2, 3rd place and so on). The 4 winners then race semis then final & 3rd /4th race. The 4 losers join the local cars in consolations. It would be simple for ppl to follow, make the racing more do or die on night one and you could still use seeding the following year. |
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Post by mordecai on Jan 9, 2019 21:29:08 GMT 12
No 12 team format is best. Top of each group Tier 1, second Tier 2. Instead of this nonsense that so many ppl have trouble working out where the team who comes 6th on night 1 can still come 3rd in the championship I'd rather see the 12 team - 4 grp format reinstated. The 4 group winners race their semis then final & 3rd /4th race. The other 8 teams go into a plate type champs with 8 teams, straight knock out, drawn by finish positions from night 1 (grp 1, 2nd place races grp 2, 3rd place and so on). The 4 winners then race semis then final & 3rd /4th race. The 4 losers join the local cars in consolations. It would be simple for ppl to follow, make the racing more do or die on night one and you could still use seeding the following year. No superstock team will want to race in 3 teams races in 1 night I like the current format as teams 5 thru 8 still have incentive to race hard for a seed on the following year |
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Post by conrod on Jan 9, 2019 22:13:46 GMT 12
I don't know how many times I've said on here about different things related to speedway that less is more. IMHO it applies to this championship. 12 teams is the perfect number for the perfect format, 4 groups of 3 racing round robin within their group. While it's all good and well to have 13 or 14 teams, can we really say the first night's racing is better than when the group format was used? Agree, I don't really think ring ins do any thing but make the numbers , does it add to the racing ? I don't really think does, the top teams are a 100 % committed and have a fair idea whats going on they full on want to be there and are fully prepared , I'm not taking anything away from any driver that fronts ,don't get me wrong but its full on commitment that makes finals, not trashing your car and money and body just to make numbers |
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Post by nottosure on Jan 10, 2019 7:02:12 GMT 12
I don't know how many times I've said on here about different things related to speedway that less is more. IMHO it applies to this championship. 12 teams is the perfect number for the perfect format, 4 groups of 3 racing round robin within their group. While it's all good and well to have 13 or 14 teams, can we really say the first night's racing is better than when the group format was used? Agree fully here Ramjam, 12 teams 4 groups of 3 is the best format for this meeting. I believe if anymore than 12 show an interest in entering, a challenge involving the bottom 2 teams from the previous year and the new interested team(s) is run to earn the last 2 positions, with such a challenge run in late November early December. Also think that if any of the teams involved in such a challenge need ring ins, those ring ins must be committed to that team they represented at the teams champs, not just used to get into the main event. This would make all positions/points in the teams champs worth fighting for, knowing finishing low down overall may mean you could miss out on being there the next season. The challenge would also show those teams are committed and prepared 2-3 months out and such a practice would help get the teams into teams race mode for February. |
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Post by 4zfed on Jan 10, 2019 8:22:08 GMT 12
This is all good in theory but u can run into multiple scenarios..ie:guys waiting for new cars or rebuilding cars..people waiting on engines..top tier teams haven't been selected so your unsure if you're available for a certain team..guys like Tye..Ace..Bevan Humphrey etc could be mustangs but don't know till after 240s etc
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Post by maninstand on Jan 10, 2019 8:38:58 GMT 12
Panthers
Snedden
Humphries
Bengston
Hemi
Dare.
Yeah hemi on form no but they won last year you have to have some loyalty.
Mustangs.
Mellsop
Tye
And who else wants to race which is a good question
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Post by maninstand on Jan 10, 2019 8:43:41 GMT 12
Forgot the Joblins.
Scrappers
Paul johnson
Hamish booker
Mitch vickery
Carl shearer
And after not being selected for Christchurch Stratford have thrown Jarad wade a lifeline š.
What's isn't out of the question with his relationship with vickery
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Post by nottosure on Jan 10, 2019 9:06:46 GMT 12
This is all good in theory but u can run into multiple scenarios..ie:guys waiting for new cars or rebuilding cars..people waiting on engines..top tier teams haven't been selected so your unsure if you're available for a certain team..guys like Tye..Ace..Bevan Humphrey etc could be mustangs but don't know till after 240s etc Good points but you you have to agree the teams who are generally put together at the last minute and aren't well prepared, haven't really added much to the event over the past few years. It's teams who have plans that are pretty much sorted in advance, had teams racing before the event, sponsors locked in, merchandise, fans knowing their team will be there who seem to get the rewards. The first night last year lacked major action because teams knew they had to chase points to be in the top 4 out of 14 teams, meaning in theory each team was racing 13 teams. In the 4x3 group situation each team in each group races each other, so they control their own success (or failure) by winning their races/group. Imagine if each national title event needing qualifying (in what ever class and event) was decided by being in the top 26 regardless of what group you came from. (I know different classes have different qualifying numbers for events). |
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Post by go29 on Jan 10, 2019 10:49:00 GMT 12
Will Nelson Auckland Wanganui & WaiKato have teams?? Wanganui should be fine.. If the others make it, Iād say there'd be a number of ringins. Also, the likes of R Tye who fills gaps looked to have a major engine issue at NZs? Hopefully Wanganui will be there... I see Bevan Humphrey has put a P back on the car which is a loss and also the Mooney Superstock is for sale... Scott Duncan I imagine will be up for it. There are a few more Superstocks at Oceanview this season but unsure if any of them are interested in Teams Racing. |
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Post by 4zfed on Jan 10, 2019 11:13:03 GMT 12
Mooney's is for sale already.
Thats interesting after the much anticipated wait & build of it.
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