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Post by mudman on Dec 6, 2019 12:06:21 GMT 12
Here is my issue with any ‘no points, straight knock out’ format. If you take this years possible teams C would be 1 and K would be 16. They get matched up first race out the gate. C get one single car home in first K gets the next 4. K are now racing for 15/16th run off with no chance of progressing until next year. Surely the format should accomodate teams to progress and end up in a position they deserve. How good would it be to watch a team sneak into the top 8 and go through upsetting the higher ranked teams to win the whole thing?
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Post by mordecai on Dec 6, 2019 12:16:27 GMT 12
Here is my issue with any ‘no points, straight knock out’ format. If you take this years possible teams C would be 1 and K would be 16. They get matched up first race out the gate. C get one single car home in first K gets the next 4. K are now racing for 15/16th run off with no chance of progressing until next year. Surely the format should accomodate teams to progress and end up in a position they deserve. How good would it be to watch a team sneak into the top 8 and go through upsetting the higher ranked teams to win the whole thing? Yes I actually like the stockcar teams format they used at Stratford earlier this year |
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Post by tank11 on Dec 6, 2019 13:14:08 GMT 12
Here is my issue with any ‘no points, straight knock out’ format. If you take this years possible teams C would be 1 and K would be 16. They get matched up first race out the gate. C get one single car home in first K gets the next 4. K are now racing for 15/16th run off with no chance of progressing until next year. Surely the format should accomodate teams to progress and end up in a position they deserve. How good would it be to watch a team sneak into the top 8 and go through upsetting the higher ranked teams to win the whole thing? No, what you do is have a repechage and they could still end up 3rd. This also gives a second round of races, to make the 2 nights racing. |
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Post by midway on Dec 6, 2019 13:22:52 GMT 12
8 teams should be the cut off point .
Entertainment at its best ,with first past the post as the winner
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Post by nottosure on Dec 6, 2019 14:01:22 GMT 12
Here is my issue with any ‘no points, straight knock out’ format. If you take this years possible teams C would be 1 and K would be 16. They get matched up first race out the gate. C get one single car home in first K gets the next 4. K are now racing for 15/16th run off with no chance of progressing until next year. Surely the format should accomodate teams to progress and end up in a position they deserve. How good would it be to watch a team sneak into the top 8 and go through upsetting the higher ranked teams to win the whole thing? This scenario can possibly play out this year using the points system. Taking that Christchurch are seeded along with B,W&P any of them could race Kihikihi but not each other. If in your example C wins 100-95 then they race let's say G (unseeded) and win again 100-95 their 200 points for 2 wins may mean they're only in the 2nd tier currently. Yet K or G (or even both) may get into the top tier if they pick up 1 easy win totalling 185-10 over lesser fancied teams and leapfrog a team who bet both with 280 points. Is that fair? Realise it's totally hypothetical but totally realistic under the current format. |
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Post by mordecai on Dec 6, 2019 20:08:24 GMT 12
Here is my issue with any ‘no points, straight knock out’ format. If you take this years possible teams C would be 1 and K would be 16. They get matched up first race out the gate. C get one single car home in first K gets the next 4. K are now racing for 15/16th run off with no chance of progressing until next year. Surely the format should accomodate teams to progress and end up in a position they deserve. How good would it be to watch a team sneak into the top 8 and go through upsetting the higher ranked teams to win the whole thing? This scenario can possibly play out this year using the points system. Taking that Christchurch are seeded along with B,W&P any of them could race Kihikihi but not each other. If in your example C wins 100-95 then they race let's say G (unseeded) and win again 100-95 their 200 points for 2 wins may mean they're only in the 2nd tier currently. Yet K or G (or even both) may get into the top tier if they pick up 1 easy win totalling 185-10 over lesser fancied teams and leapfrog a team who bet both with 280 points. Is that fair? Realise it's totally hypothetical but totally realistic under the current format. Yeah I get your point but I guess it's the same rules for everyone Hawkeyes suffered that fate a few years back won both races and fin 5th |
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Post by beachboy on Dec 6, 2019 20:33:16 GMT 12
Here is my issue with any ‘no points, straight knock out’ format. If you take this years possible teams C would be 1 and K would be 16. They get matched up first race out the gate. C get one single car home in first K gets the next 4. K are now racing for 15/16th run off with no chance of progressing until next year. Surely the format should accomodate teams to progress and end up in a position they deserve. How good would it be to watch a team sneak into the top 8 and go through upsetting the higher ranked teams to win the whole thing? No issue with that, K hasn't supported the event with a team for a while now while C has made the trip up many times and are defending champs because of all the hard work they have put in over the years. Provided the teams know its first across the line then its to their own demise if they choose to race around in 2nd 3rd 4th & 5th like you say. |
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Post by hbhornets on Dec 6, 2019 20:35:01 GMT 12
This scenario can possibly play out this year using the points system. Taking that Christchurch are seeded along with B,W&P any of them could race Kihikihi but not each other. If in your example C wins 100-95 then they race let's say G (unseeded) and win again 100-95 their 200 points for 2 wins may mean they're only in the 2nd tier currently. Yet K or G (or even both) may get into the top tier if they pick up 1 easy win totalling 185-10 over lesser fancied teams and leapfrog a team who bet both with 280 points. Is that fair? Realise it's totally hypothetical but totally realistic under the current format. Yeah I get your point but I guess it's the same rules for everyone Hawkeyes suffered that fate a few years back won both races and fin 5th 2013. beat the tigers even. and the tigers finished 3rd lol. the g.b team would of beat them through. they did have pace on us to be fair. but we did agree to no bumpers. i think everybody can agree it needs to be quarter final semi final and final. we all agree thats the best format for any number of teams over 12 but under 16. panthers are in trouble. there are some very good teams around not seeded. kihi kihi, gisbourne, baypark, loins, rebels. and even losing 26s feel the scrappers have alot of young guys wanting to teams race and will be at the pointy end or there abouts. so realistically 10 teams can win. so to have 8 in contention by night two just makes sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 23:47:30 GMT 12
Here is my issue with any ‘no points, straight knock out’ format. If you take this years possible teams C would be 1 and K would be 16. They get matched up first race out the gate. C get one single car home in first K gets the next 4. K are now racing for 15/16th run off with no chance of progressing until next year. Surely the format should accomodate teams to progress and end up in a position they deserve. How good would it be to watch a team sneak into the top 8 and go through upsetting the higher ranked teams to win the whole thing? Yes I actually like the stockcar teams format they used at Stratford earlier this year I'm sure you do but personally I HATE a format that not only allows, but pretty much encourages a rematch of an earlier race. |
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Post by mordecai on Dec 7, 2019 0:18:45 GMT 12
Yes I actually like the stockcar teams format they used at Stratford earlier this year I'm sure you do but personally I HATE a format that not only allows, but pretty much encourages a rematch of an earlier race. I cant w8 for teams champs looks Like a number of teams could take this out Panthers Giants Hawkeyes Chch Wildcats Kings Busters |
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Post by thewarrior on Dec 7, 2019 10:43:06 GMT 12
Would love to see the Giants on top
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Post by tank11 on Dec 7, 2019 11:28:24 GMT 12
Will see the Giants on top There, fixed it for you!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Post by hotdogman on Dec 16, 2019 8:54:20 GMT 12
Not long to go now till February
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Post by jayt6 on Jan 17, 2020 8:08:19 GMT 12
Most teams have had a hit out so should be on form can’t wait
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Post by go29 on Jan 17, 2020 9:59:18 GMT 12
Great Britain will get a practice run against HB before the meeting, and most other teams have had at least a couple of teams races already this season, so would I be right in saying that the only team that won't have had a 'preseason' teams race would be the defending champs? (and maybe Nelson if they do come, but it sounds unlikely).
I imagine it would be a long time since all but one team who turn up in Feb have done so much teams racing early in the season - it's awesome to see.
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Post by beachboy on Jan 18, 2020 18:40:35 GMT 12
Will be 14 teams at most, likely 13
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Post by mordecai on Jan 18, 2020 21:01:50 GMT 12
Will be 14 teams at most, likely 13 I have 15 if tigers turn up GB lions Chch eagles Wildcats Panthers Mustang's Warriors Scrappers Hawkeyes Giants Wanderers Busters Rebels Allstars Kings Tigers There a whispers red waka 571 581 591 racing for Nelson So next 2 weeks will be very interesting |
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Post by Admin on Jan 18, 2020 21:31:04 GMT 12
I gather they announced at Palmy tonight there will be 14 teams
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Post by go29 on Jan 19, 2020 8:10:54 GMT 12
Was in the programme that they are expecting 14 teams. Can't see the red wakas racing for Nelson... But stranger things have happened I suppose
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Post by hbhornets on Jan 19, 2020 15:12:20 GMT 12
with two aussies runnings around last night could help but feel a aussie should be entered for this event captained by 591au. and with tigers puts teams up to 16. the tigers will make a return this decade. by the end of it i feel.
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