The Draw (Read 2,153 times)

[percy]

The main thread has become a mind-numbing experience so I thought we might start a thread on the racing

Race 1 - Alleycats vs Pumas
Race 2 - Rascals vs Maulers
Race 3 - Stormers vs Crushers
Race 4 - Young Guns vs Vulcans
Race 5 - Pumas vs Bulldogs
Race 6 - Maulers vs Raiders
Race 7 - Crushers vs Grizzlies
Race 8 - Vulcans vs Gladiators
Race 9 - Bulldogs vs Alleycats
Race 10 - Raiders vs Rascals
Race 11 - Grizzlies vs Stormers
Race 12 - Gladiators vs Young Guns

GROUP A
Auckland Alleycats
Palmerston North Pumas
Baypark Bulldogs

GROUP B
Rotorua Rascals
Meeanee Maulers
Waikato Raiders

GROUP C
Stratford Stormers
Canterbury Crushers
Greymouth Grizzlies

GROUP D
Wellington Young Guns
Wanganui Vulcans
Gisborne Gladiators

[hbhornets]

Ih darn there is no group of death. Thats even as. Yp the maulers. Smash the p.

[hbhornets]

So you cantbswear it chamges the words for you thats annoying

[hbhornets]

The first tour races decide the quilfiers. Lets see uf im wront

[skulls]

How come some teams only have 3 races between there races yet other teams have 7 races between there's seems a bit rough to a few teams it seems.

[percy]

Feb 18, 2021 20:01:53 GMT 12 skulls said:

How come some teams only have 3 races between there races yet other teams have 7 races between there's seems a bit rough to a few teams it seems.

Using the four group format it's impossible to do the draw any better

Seeded teams get the gap and the advantage of racing in the last race where they know how many points they need

[Driftwood]

Its rigged.

[hienekenno1]

Go the Alley cats,if they win it there will be a private party lol.

[skulls]

It will be tough for the teams who may only have 30-45 mins between there races if they have alot of damage from there first race but they will have to make do with the time they have

[beachboy]

Now thats how you do a draw Mr B Robertson
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[d1dazza]

Seeded teams should go. 7 vs 3 race repair gap way to keep the underdogs down and top teams up. Should be a way fairer way to do draw. Maybe 3 groups of 4 with group 1 having race 1 and 2 then race 7 and 8. Etc. Its a stupid advantage for seeded teams

[go29]

So what people are saying is they now prefer the 13 or 14 team format the superstock teams champs has been using recently? Lololol make ya minds up!

[beachboy]

Feb 18, 2021 21:00:45 GMT 12 d1dazza said:

Seeded teams should go. 7 vs 3 race repair gap way to keep the underdogs down and top teams up. Should be a way fairer way to do draw. Maybe 3 groups of 4 with group 1 having race 1 and 2 then race 7 and 8. Etc. Its a stupid advantage for seeded teams

You put in the hard work to get a top four finish then you club/team gets rewarded the following season with a bigger gap between races. Stratford are unlikely to enjoy a big gap between races next year but Waikato may.

[d1dazza]

Feb 20, 2021 8:54:56 GMT 12 beachboy said:

Feb 18, 2021 21:00:45 GMT 12 d1dazza said:

Seeded teams should go. 7 vs 3 race repair gap way to keep the underdogs down and top teams up. Should be a way fairer way to do draw. Maybe 3 groups of 4 with group 1 having race 1 and 2 then race 7 and 8. Etc. Its a stupid advantage for seeded teams

You put in the hard work to get a top four finish then you club/team gets rewarded the following season with a bigger gap between races. Stratford are unlikely to enjoy a big gap between races next year but Waikato may.

being a speedway nz title everyone should be on a level playing field. Same or similar gaps between races.

[Deleted]

Feb 20, 2021 9:44:09 GMT 12 d1dazza said:

Feb 20, 2021 8:54:56 GMT 12 beachboy said:

You put in the hard work to get a top four finish then you club/team gets rewarded the following season with a bigger gap between races. Stratford are unlikely to enjoy a big gap between races next year but Waikato may.

being a speedway nz title everyone should be on a level playing field. Same or similar gaps between races.

but seeding is now allowed at snz titles, whats the point of seeding if there is no advantage to having a seeding? Besides, it didn't seem to hut half the tier 1 teams

[Chopper]

Feb 20, 2021 13:34:42 GMT 12 Ramjam said:

Feb 20, 2021 9:44:09 GMT 12 d1dazza said:

being a speedway nz title everyone should be on a level playing field. Same or similar gaps between races.

but seeding is now allowed at snz titles, whats the point of seeding if there is no advantage to having a seeding? Besides, it didn't seem to hut half the tier 1 teams

Suppose it depends on how many advantages are deemed necessary for those seeded.

1. Top 4 are normally in separate groups, so most likely wont meet until finals
2. They've (in this instance) gotten a longer timeframe to repair cars between races.
3. Do they also get the best parking spot?
4. Do they get a personal waiter to bring the Hot Dog & Chips?
😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

Surely having as even as possible gaps for all teams would be beneficial to both spectators and teams themselves?

[Deleted]

Feb 20, 2021 14:38:40 GMT 12 Chopper said:

Feb 20, 2021 13:34:42 GMT 12 Ramjam said:

but seeding is now allowed at snz titles, whats the point of seeding if there is no advantage to having a seeding? Besides, it didn't seem to hut half the tier 1 teams

Surely having as even as possible gaps for all teams would be beneficial to both spectators and teams themselves?

Correct, and the gaps are as even as possible under this format

[beachboy]

Feb 20, 2021 9:44:09 GMT 12 d1dazza said:

Feb 20, 2021 8:54:56 GMT 12 beachboy said:

You put in the hard work to get a top four finish then you club/team gets rewarded the following season with a bigger gap between races. Stratford are unlikely to enjoy a big gap between races next year but Waikato may.

being a speedway nz title everyone should be on a level playing field. Same or similar gaps between races.

to have a level playing field the gaps between races would need to be even not just similar, therefore unlikely to work. The biggest sporting events in the world have seeded teams. You put in the hard work and you are rewarded, its hard to reach the top for a reason.