Super Saloon GP (Read 5,674 times)

[rebel1]

The Super Saloon rep is unable to confirm the list , doesnt know who or the format and will have to check with Willie Kay.

[sonic33]

I am sure GOD will be thankful for your thanks nutz. Your opinion differs from mine. Will be easier to take pics of 9-10 cars in the heats rather than 15, Oops forgot you won't be there!

[sonic33]

struggling to understand Murray.

KK format seems fine with 30 cars. Huntly also seems fine with 20 cars.

3 heats at KK with 30 cars, how does that work.

[Murray Guy (Grandad)]

Jan 22, 2009 22:01:37 GMT 12 sonic33 said:

struggling to understand Murray.

KK format seems fine with 30 cars. Huntly also seems fine with 20 cars.

3 heats at KK with 30 cars, how does that work.

Huntly have 20 car fields in the initial heat.
The ideal is to get a rear start in the first heat and a few will end up on the infield early on (earn points without passing) A front draw in the third heat is good as the track often has slicked off reducing passing opportunities.

Kihikihi have a 2 heat reverse marble and Huntly have three (front middle rear).
Certainly looking forward to Kihikihi and the new track.
The three heat provides for a fairer distribution of grid draws.

The 2 heat reverse marble has the same competitors in the middle of the pack for both races ... imagine at Kihikihi.
A new track, you're in the middle of a pack of 'eager beavers' hell bent on winning the race in the first lap. The track is wet and the officials let the rsace gop before packed properly (usual scenario). There is little chance to escape the carnage - if you're cautious you get it up the rear, if you're on the ouitside someone will likely get a massive push on and side, etc.

[NutZ]

Jan 22, 2009 21:53:02 GMT 12 sonic33 said:

I am sure GOD will be thankful for your thanks nutz. Your opinion differs from mine. Will be easier to take pics of 9-10 cars in the heats rather than 15, Oops forgot you won't be there!

As a punter I'm happy with six per heat. That way all drivers get a fair chance to be in the last race without having other drivers to blame for them not being there.
Also I get to see lots of little races, some close some not, but at the end of the day the last race is where the money is. You can get some pretty intense racing with six supers still. Even 3 supers + awsome drivers = awsome racing.
There must be more pressure on the drivers in small fields because a bad performance will stick out like dogs balls.

As a promoter, and I'm out of my league here, WK's format probably ensures no over runs of time and the crowd dont need calculators.

As a driver, once again I have no idea except a half arsed opinion, but would imagine as supers are more expensive and harder to fix than sprintcars, I wouldn't want the chances of being back on the trailer early increased by participating in big fields in a one night meet when I'm only their to compete in the last race avoiding getting caught up in any mayhem going for the gold.

As a punter that takes a camera with him, the best pics come from big fields and lots of contact.

Red lights, black flags and ambulances

[sonic33]

The format can't be blamed for drivers that can't use there right foot properly.

As for Huntly's fomat I see what you are saying and agree a rear grid draw for the first can be good. Especially if the track is known for slicking off as the night goes on. You can usually make some good passes early on when the track has it's grip and then hope to make good points in the last from up front and hope others are struggling to pass down the back.

However sometimes that is not the case. Ask Dean re Cromwell. Good passes in heats one and two, made the most of his front grid with a win (and surviving Halcrow), then through good driving and carnage with guys in front, Shane Mc grabs alot bigger bag of points than was expected and takes out the title.

From a spectators view I think both Huntly and KK have the best formats for the entries they have. Better stay on topic

[strx7]

I'd say the time trials will be as per the Sprintcar GP, groups of say 8-10 cars put onto the track for 5 'hotlaps' and your fastest lap from those hotlaps is your 'qualifying time'. Because the council dont want too many cars on the grass.

Bout time the council worked out that its a Speedway Stadium 1st and a rugby facility 2nd.

[sonic33]

Nutz we will see how the programme goes as to not running over time. Should be less accident delays with three heats of 9 cars, but you still have

Time trials,
3 x Heat races,
a dash,
a B main,
and a 20 lap feature.

Mind you only running 4 classes you would think time would not be issue. If you include the time trials as a race thats 7 super races and 9 others.

Not sure if they can start the time trials before 7.

Your shots are always great viewing. Keep up the good work

[Murray Guy (Grandad)]

Jan 23, 2009 7:23:49 GMT 12 strx7 said:

... Because the council dont want too many cars on the grass.

Bout time the council worked out that its a Speedway Stadium 1st and a rugby facility 2nd.

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Bout time some folk woke up to the FACT that the above is absolutely incorrect.

Tauranga City Council, nor any entity on it's behalf,
has never suggested or implied that speedway is second fiddle to rugby,
neither has it made any recommendations regarding the numbers of vehicles on the infield.

I am aware that competitors have been given somewhat suspect information at driver's briefings and in newsletters regarding the City Council and TCVL - I suggest you contact TCVL directly (office at Baypark) if you have any concerns.

Tauranga City Venues Ltd who manage Baypark on behalf of the City Council, has requested of speedway management, that competitors respect the infield, just as is the case at most speedway venues. In the event the speedway significantly damage the turf they are asked to reinstate it!
Now that's all very reasponable and easy to understand, I hope!

[strx7]

Then why is the council taking photo's and fining 'offenders'

[Steve the Maori]

Tauranga City Venues Ltd who manage Baypark on behalf of the City Council, has requested of speedway management, that competitors respect the infield, just as is the case at most speedway venues. In the event the speedway significantly damage the turf they are asked to reinstate it!
Now that's all very reasonable and easy to understand, I hope!

Hi Murray,

Just a question in respect to the turf and damage caused from speedway related vehicle traffic. As the Baypark Speedway Promotions is responsible for the repair/replacement of the turf when damaged, does BOP Rugby/TCVL have to repair the track when the grass grows through it during our Speedway off season due to the grass seed and fertilisers used to maintain the surface? The track would require a certain amount of repair work which possibly shouldn't be the responsibilty of Speedway promotions.

Due to the frequency of complaints coming from Baypark by competitors, crews, magorians and sadly spectators. could you suggest where the best place for Magorians/Speedwayaholics to comment or complain in respect to dealings with Baypark Speedway promotions. Correct me if I'm wrong, as they sub lease the promotional rights for the speedway from Bob Clarkson who has the contract through the council. Should Speedway Promotions have Key Performance Indicators and targets etc to meet. Could enough valid complaints cause a breach of contract therefore allowing the possibility of removal of the current lease holder.

Should unhappy parties vent their frustration directly through Stu??

Just a thought on a Friday afternoon.