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Post by my2cents on Jan 25, 2009 23:42:53 GMT 12
After reading all the fors and against on the other board I want to know if you were a Referee/SNZ what do you think would be a Fair Punishment for the inicdent that happened in Wellington.
To refresh your memory here is the link
And remember the referee only gets to see this once in real time.
Rule G7-4-2 (pg 43-44)
A Referee may:Issue a reprimand
Fine up to $100 (Championship)
Exclude a Competitor for up to 15days
Relegate a Competitor
Or Refer a competitor to the Board (Then its up to SNZ Board to decide punishment)
Would also be intresting what Super/Stockcar drivers in perticular think a fair punishment would be.
I dont want this thread to be a "slanging match" just want thorts on penalties
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Post by visitor on Jan 26, 2009 0:47:45 GMT 12
Having looked at the clip, without over analysing, no punishment required, didnt see cheating there. Not a rule expert but from what I saw, a car out wide dive bombs someone on the pole line, hit car goes on infield as a result of contact, comes back on track and exacts revenge. The knocked car didnt appear to lay in wait or deviate in any way from its path caused from the original contact.I didnt think the hit car was at any stage hiding on the infield. It was meerly continuing its tragectory set by the original contact.
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Post by Admin on Jan 26, 2009 1:44:31 GMT 12
Yes , chances are he had no brakes and little steering due to the right front damage.
If he was trying to take Rees out for real the power would have been on at wall impact time .
Mountains out of molehills is my feeling .
Still might have been a bit naughty though so appease everyone by slapping a $50 fine on him .
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Post by Rusty on Jan 26, 2009 6:16:27 GMT 12
Yes , changes are he had no brakes and little steering due to the right front damage. If he was trying to take Rees out for real the power would have been on at wall impact time . Mountains out of molehills is my feeling . Still might have been a bit naughty though so appease everyone by slapping a $50 fine on him . My thinking as well as it dosnt look too bad on the video |
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Post by Tony on Jan 26, 2009 6:55:27 GMT 12
I refrained from commenting on the "other" thread, but here's my thoughts, never having been a speedway competitor. The on-the-night penalty was sufficient and appropriate.
As an aside, the next time Peewee and Beatle are on the same track, no prizes for guessing where all eyes will be! And isn't that kind of rivalry just what speedway needs?
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Post by longtimelurker on Jan 26, 2009 7:02:26 GMT 12
The word "cheating" provokes images of deliberately breaking the rules to gain an advantage.
It seems Beatle didn't make a conscious decision to break the rules, it just happened, as things do.
Not being allowed to finish the night's racing was enough, time to let it go.
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Post by tank11 on Jan 26, 2009 8:01:47 GMT 12
Beatle didn't dive for the infield, he was forced.
Beatle didn't drive across the corner, he turned right at the first opportunity.
Beatle did take peewee to the wall from the grass, as he still had one wheel on the grass at first contact (but only just)
Enough has been done already.
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Post by dm on Jan 26, 2009 9:56:33 GMT 12
Was beatle in the car last night in Palmy, I see there was still some hitting amonst them with 17p,18p,99p,64b. Was some nice action in the stockcars last night too.
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Post by porry41 on Jan 26, 2009 10:03:56 GMT 12
before i comment in my official capacity ;D what happened next .was the car towed or drivin away ?  |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 26, 2009 11:24:05 GMT 12
Was beatle in the car last night in Palmy, I see there was still some hitting amonst them with 17p,18p,99p,64b. Was some nice action in the stockcars last night too. a couple of Pamly cars took to Beatle but Ron Tye took care of them lol |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 26, 2009 11:24:45 GMT 12
before i comment in my official capacity ;D what happened next .was the car towed or drivin away ? which car? Rees drove out of it and still qualified |
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Post by stockcar25b on Jan 26, 2009 12:09:12 GMT 12
WHO CARES!!!!!WHAT IS DONE IS DONE GET OVER IT!!! RACING INNCIDENT  MISTAKES HAPPEN TO EVERYONE |
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Post by Wildcat on Jan 26, 2009 12:16:12 GMT 12
Never a true word spoken ,,all done dusted move on  Enjoy whay speedway we get to see |
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Post by stockcar25b on Jan 26, 2009 13:31:13 GMT 12
beatle proberly feels stink as it is and with everyone having a moan about what he did aint helping him.......from what i herd there is not gona be a beatle in stockcars no more so leave him alone GO THE MAulers |
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Post by The Observer on Jan 26, 2009 14:28:38 GMT 12
Did Wayne Hemi get a punishment after last night?
I think he had 4 wheels on the grass when he drilled FWJ in the opening heat.
Whats worse was FWJ has 4 wheels on the grass as well?!
It all happened in front of me, the red waka poked his nose up the inside of the pack, drove accross the grass, saw fwj and accelerated straight through him. Was one of the biggest hits on the grass i've seen!
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Post by porry41 on Jan 26, 2009 15:02:52 GMT 12
ill ask again ???did beatles car drive away or was it towed  ? simple question . hic |
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Post by my2cents on Jan 26, 2009 22:30:35 GMT 12
By all accounts he drove off a bit worse for wear tho
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Post by Regan O'Brien on Jan 27, 2009 7:08:15 GMT 12
ill ask again ???did beatles car drive away or was it towed ? simple question . hic beatles car got towed off red lights came on had broken shock on right front |
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Post by porry41 on Jan 27, 2009 7:40:13 GMT 12
ok like getting blood out of a stone. did didnt . lets put it this way . if he had mechanical failure .ie no steering or brake issues & was towed off .ok would have been deemed a racing incident .no penilties. if he drove away & a broken shock is not going to stop him .has no steering or brake problems .he has attacked from the infeild .penilty what ever it was applies. what he should have done .come back onto track turned left done 1 car lenght & then turned right .so if i was ref that would have been my decision . now wheres my hip flask ;D hic
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Post by azza007 on Jan 27, 2009 13:09:30 GMT 12
I didn't comment on this last time coz the thread got so long but I will now seeing as it's been started up again ;D
I think I'm with the majority on here who think that:
1. He got a fair penalty.
2. It seemed to be overhyped in the original thread to the point that I was expecting to see him cut through the infield to the other side of the track just to put the hit in.
3. The apparent actions of some people in the pits should cause more concern than a split second decision on the track
Pointless I know, coz everyone else has said it but just didn't want to be left out ;D
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Enjoy whay speedway we get to see 
? simple question . hic