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Post by avgas on Dec 28, 2009 11:01:24 GMT 12
Tough question, Where will this event be held now as according to the website there is only one stockcar meeting before the NZ's which requires 3. With no meetings or practises held at Wanganui so far what is the situation?
Please answer with helpful information and not nasty or personal attacks. Would be really good if someone from SNZ or maybe CarWrecker could give some insight, or Maybe someone from the (Whanganui) Club could comment.
Thanks.
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Post by MadMarty13B on Dec 28, 2009 12:55:44 GMT 12
If you raced the season before then you only have to do 1 meeting
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Post by busterbell on Dec 28, 2009 13:06:19 GMT 12
avgas is refering to rule g13-2-3 which obligates the track to have run that class 3 times in the season prior to the champs being held.
with 7 weeks left to run before the champs i see no need for panic or alarms bells as there is plenty of time to sort things out.
at the minimum they could hold a practice prior to the event, split into two ( ie a lunch break ) to complete the requirement to have held 3 meetings.
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Post by avgas on Dec 28, 2009 14:48:52 GMT 12
Thanks for your answer. So if I get it right on the 10th Jan we could have a practise and then two meetings by splitting the meeting in half.
So does that mean 1st practise at 10 second at 12 the 1st meeting at 2pm then second meeting at 4pm.
Is that what was meant? Will we have to pay twice?
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Post by MadMarty13B on Dec 28, 2009 16:22:45 GMT 12
avgas is refering to rule g13-2-3 which obligates the track to have run that class 3 times in the season prior to the champs being held. with 7 weeks left to run before the champs i see no need for panic or alarms bells as there is plenty of time to sort things out. at the minimum they could hold a practice prior to the event, split into two ( ie a lunch break ) to complete the requirement to have held 3 meetings. Thats easy they will just apply for dispensation |
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Post by busterbell on Dec 28, 2009 16:55:41 GMT 12
hows does that work marty?? have just thumbed through the rule book and cant see where they can/ or are allowed to apply for dispensation??
all i see is a fine payable and/or future championships declined if they cannot fufil the contract they have to run the event.
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Post by MadMarty13B on Dec 28, 2009 16:58:50 GMT 12
what you reading that thing for rules change or get interpreted different or adjusted on the fly accordingly amd it will happen in this case if common sense prevails
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Post by busterbell on Dec 28, 2009 17:02:10 GMT 12
Thanks for your answer. So if I get it right on the 10th Jan we could have a practise and then two meetings by splitting the meeting in half. So does that mean 1st practise at 10 second at 12 the 1st meeting at 2pm then second meeting at 4pm. Is that what was meant? Will we have to pay twice? practices are equivalent to a meeting, so you can have a combination of any to make up the 3 required. yes you can have two held on the same day. if it is a practice, the promotion cannot charge a entry fee. |
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Post by busterbell on Dec 28, 2009 17:08:44 GMT 12
what you reading that thing for rules change or get interpreted different or adjusted on the fly accordingly amd it will happen in this case if common sense prevails lol is that your answer marty?? you will never win a disagreement without facts or figures to back it up.   oh and according to you it was supposed to be easy  |
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Post by skid on Dec 28, 2009 17:37:02 GMT 12
theres going to be alot of stockcars at that practice, (or is it only there own club cars that can go to practice like most other tracks)
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Post by busterbell on Dec 28, 2009 17:55:28 GMT 12
theres going to be alot of stockcars at that practice, (or is it only there own club cars that can go to practice like most other tracks) for this scenario the practice,s would be for the clubs benefit to satisfy their obligations in the contract they signed to hold the nz champs. in theory no-one could turn up and they still would have done their part. the club has to offer a practice to the competitors entered in the nz champs for familiarisation purposes, prior to the event being run. (usually in the afternoon after scrutineering, or sometimes the day before ) i am not sure wether this would count towards the 3 they require but i would pressume not. someone else may know more detail. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 18:23:17 GMT 12
what you reading that thing for rules change or get interpreted different or adjusted on the fly accordingly amd it will happen in this case if common sense prevails Marty if common sense prevailed, the club would've started earlier and had all the changes made before the season was due to start. This hasn't happened, they've missed out on drivers making the trip to Wanganui to familiarise themselves with the track, and missed out on people through the gate. |
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Post by Visacard on Dec 28, 2009 18:31:26 GMT 12
Thanks for your answer. So if I get it right on the 10th Jan we could have a practise and then two meetings by splitting the meeting in half. So does that mean 1st practise at 10 second at 12 the 1st meeting at 2pm then second meeting at 4pm. Is that what was meant? Will we have to pay twice? practices are equivalent to a meeting, so you can have a combination of any to make up the 3 required. yes you can have two held on the same day. if it is a practice, the promotion cannot charge a entry fee. Looks like you have been reading the rule book buster.....  Guessing you will never be caught out by that rule again  |
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Post by busterbell on Dec 28, 2009 18:59:50 GMT 12
practices are equivalent to a meeting, so you can have a combination of any to make up the 3 required. yes you can have two held on the same day. if it is a practice, the promotion cannot charge a entry fee. Looks like you have been reading the rule book buster..... Guessing you will never be caught out by that rule again all i got caught out by was snz not knowing the rulebook  i missed the quote on the front cover "reading the rules and regulations are the competitors responsibilty" |
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Post by skid on Dec 30, 2009 12:24:07 GMT 12
just called around town for a room. starting to full fast a few motels said. Found this place Bignell street Motels does a caravan for $50 then has rooms up from that.heaps of room for a trailer and said that theres cameras on the car park.
I parked on the road at Napier's NZ champs out side the motel and got up to find a window broken window and ripped off, so no more staying at places i cant get my car & trailer into.
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Post by HIGHWAY45 on Dec 30, 2009 21:39:21 GMT 12
if theres 115 to 120 cars at the nzgp for stocks then how many will there bea t the nz champs...
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Post by stockcar 67v on Dec 30, 2009 22:24:27 GMT 12
just called around town for a room. starting to full fast a few motels said. Found this place Bignell street Motels does a caravan for $50 then has rooms up from that.heaps of room for a trailer and said that theres cameras on the car park. Hey just to let you fellas know that I know a family that stayed at the Bignell street camp grounds a couple of seasons ago and they said that it wasnt that great. |
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Post by Tony on Dec 31, 2009 10:28:53 GMT 12
Bignell Street is adequate at best. If you're parking a vehicle there overnight, make sure that everything is secure and locked. Sadly, that's the reality of the world we live in nowdays.
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Post by MadMarty13B on Dec 31, 2009 11:26:16 GMT 12
52B Regan O'Brien better watch out for Michael laws the Mayor as he might have have Regan arrested for his big Bald "patch" ;D
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Post by poi on Dec 31, 2009 11:43:47 GMT 12
if you stuck for accommodation try kai iwi beach motor camp or is it mowhanau motor camp not sure but any ways heaps of room , i think they have a few caravans for rent or just bring ya tent plenty of room for trailers you can park by your site and im sure if i ask them they even might give you a area to fix ya cars . its only 15 mins to town and plenty for the family to do. if you wont pm me and il give you there contact number.
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