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Post by woodart on Aug 30, 2007 17:08:47 GMT 12
listening to max merrits song after reading tim s; article in the latest dirt track( perhaps muldoon WAS right, tim seems more intelligent now that he has an aussie address, maybe he has had his eyes opened) , slippin away could apply to half of the current snz classes, but maybe there is a correlation in the super saloons ; car width+lap times+ accidents =competitor numbers, or if you never payed attention in school, the vast increase in the width of super saloons(some of them wider than a 40 ton truck) along with sticky tyres and 410 cu inch engines have given us rolls royce sized cars on cycle track width speedways. No wonder nearly all champ meetings end in the protest room. While there are plenty of people on this board who believe in self regulation and market forces, pehaps its time for SNZ to implement a width and no tyres outside body rule in super (and saloon) rules before somebody climbs a tyre and ends up in the crowd. maybe thats too easy eh?
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Post by Sharns With Sparky on Aug 30, 2007 17:15:43 GMT 12
u have a very good point there woodart
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Post by FantomFan on Aug 30, 2007 17:26:37 GMT 12
listening to max merrits song after reading tim s; article in the latest dirt track( perhaps muldoon WAS right, tim seems more intelligent now that he has an aussie address, maybe he has had his eyes opened) , slippin away could apply to half of the current snz classes, but maybe there is a correlation in the super saloons ; car width+lap times+ accidents =competitor numbers, or if you never payed attention in school, the vast increase in the width of super saloons(some of them wider than a 40 ton truck) along with sticky tyres and 410 cu inch engines have given us rolls royce sized cars on cycle track width speedways. No wonder nearly all champ meetings end in the protest room. While there are plenty of people on this board who believe in self regulation and market forces, pehaps its time for SNZ to implement a width and no tyres outside body rule in super (and saloon) rules before somebody climbs a tyre and ends up in the crowd. maybe thats too easy eh? Restricting width would restrict the car you could use. Your no tyre outside body suggestion could be good though. The current rule appears to allow you to add 150mm to each side of the widest car you can find.
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Post by Autopete55 on Aug 31, 2007 6:36:42 GMT 12
listening to max merrits song after reading tim s; article in the latest dirt track( perhaps muldoon WAS right, tim seems more intelligent now that he has an aussie address, maybe he has had his eyes opened) , slippin away could apply to half of the current snz classes, but maybe there is a correlation in the super saloons ; car width+lap times+ accidents =competitor numbers, or if you never payed attention in school, the vast increase in the width of super saloons(some of them wider than a 40 ton truck) along with sticky tyres and 410 cu inch engines have given us rolls royce sized cars on cycle track width speedways. No wonder nearly all champ meetings end in the protest room. While there are plenty of people on this board who believe in self regulation and market forces, pehaps its time for SNZ to implement a width and no tyres outside body rule in super (and saloon) rules before somebody climbs a tyre and ends up in the crowd. maybe thats too easy eh? Restricting width would restrict the car you could use. Your no tyre outside body suggestion could be good though. The current rule appears to allow you to add 150mm to each side of the widest car you can find. And its also 150mm from the furthest point out on an already stretched out guard.Should at least be enforced to be 150mm around the full circumference of the guard with out streching it out from the original line of the body. Hell ,the class has managed to tuck the LR inside the body and make it look cool and effective so things can change given time.
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Post by porry41 on Aug 31, 2007 8:16:24 GMT 12
weve been down this track before on saloon car specs .you are correct .but nothings changed .scb wont do any thing untill a car does go over the fence.& the way things are going its not far away .
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Post by woodart on Aug 31, 2007 16:32:43 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2007 18:22:30 GMT 12
the current whinging about the banning of straitlining in stockcar classes will soon rise to a thunderstorm if ACC is privatised by an incoming national government When I first read the topic I thought you had the wrong DB, I thought you were assuming you were on one of the (many???) left wing boards that you frequent and were talking about Labour's support base ;D ;D ;D The last time ACC was partly privatised things were better for most. To be honest I can not see any incoming govt fully privatising it (as much as I would like them to). The points you make about Saloons tho are valid and in this day and age of harm/risk reduction should be looked at.....But here within lies the problem, IF indeed a rule was introduced to such effect as all tyres had to be inside body work, What would happen the next time a sprinter, midget or any other open wheelers touch tyres and cause a crash that send either bits off the car, or the whole car over the fence? If someone is badly hurt or worse could the investigating powers (unlikely to be OSH, unless it's someone working at the track) ask why if it was so dangerous for Saloons to have exposed wheels/tyres, why did they not insist on wheel guards for the open wheelers? Anyway at least you finished off by admitting there will be a incoming National govt well done!!! ;D
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Post by superwhatnext on Aug 31, 2007 20:44:31 GMT 12
Totally agree woodart, so many saloons get destroyed by a simple clip with someones right rear & at the nats at gissy a car nearly entered the crowd, pretty scary!! wheels aligned with body work would reduce accidents by at least 50%? the crowd would see better racing unless they go there for the crashes! & drivers wallets would stay full!
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Sept 1, 2007 23:44:45 GMT 12
Tyres may extend out 150mm from normal body line (to include flared guard)
Perhaps a rule: No passing closer than 1 metre gap throughout whole maneuver. ;D
I understand the 'saloon tyre rule' has been changed. No longer restricted to 14" tread width. Now, maximum tyre width overall not to exceed 19" at race pressure. Measured my saloon tyres, a left rear came in at 18" and right rear american racer at 17".
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Post by porry41 on Sept 2, 2007 9:32:50 GMT 12
amoungst my many prangs in saloons ive been to the top wire twice this happens .when there are to many on the track at one time my thoughts .plus over drivers who are useally the big guns not the tyres but in saying that isnt it funny that streetstocks can do faster laps than saloons on there 185.14s ;D
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