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Post by kaspa69 on Dec 29, 2011 14:47:50 GMT 12
Refs call without the benefit of video , the call was bad though and prevented Gaskin finishing the job in heat three. I've just got off the phone to Pete. He has some very interesting comments to make of the entire issue, extremely interesting in fact, and will be on LiveSPORT radio at 10.05am tomorrow (Friday) morning to talk about it - and many other things, of course. what frequency is that in the wanganui area |
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Post by penman on Dec 29, 2011 15:36:47 GMT 12
Is the pole line itself counted as part of the infield or as part of the racing surface?
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Post by mining 126 on Dec 29, 2011 15:39:02 GMT 12
just out of interest at the end of the clip gaskin has retired to the infield
does he come back on the track after that or stay on the infield ??
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Post by wilber on Dec 29, 2011 16:02:27 GMT 12
Congratulations to Pete for another title.
Good to see that Paul had a crack that
from the footage does not look that bad.
Don't think Paul is a cheat, but is someone
who can read a race and do what needs to be
done when required.
Have herd alot of people say that Rees
went over pole in heat 3 to push cars
wide in turn 1, is there any footage.
Think Gaskin car prob best looking on the track from
what I have seen.
Did anything happen to 97p for his turn 3
pole line cutting to take cars in heat 3?
Anyone got footage of these moves?
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Post by Shai-tan on Dec 29, 2011 16:30:41 GMT 12
To me that looks as though Gaskin's wheel doesn't go "over" the pole line. His wheel was on the pole line.
So my question is; does the pole line begin immediately where track hits concrete or does the entire concrete strip constitute the "pole line"?
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Post by mike004 on Dec 29, 2011 16:31:20 GMT 12
just out of interest at the end of the clip gaskin has retired to the infield does he come back on the track after that or stay on the infield ?? Saw the hit, thought it was a goodie, but then saw that gaskin took off to the infield and stayed there. Perhaps something to do with seeking santury perhaps??? |
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Post by Graeme Mead on Dec 29, 2011 16:34:02 GMT 12
Did any other ars get trailered for the same thing, if so how many and from which groups.
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Post by madkiwi51 on Dec 29, 2011 16:41:05 GMT 12
Looking at this i see petes left wheel over pole line too?? Bit of bad luck PG was trailered for this good hit. But then again he was the only one that is willing to have a good go at stopping pete from getting the title. Bring on the teams i say  |
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Post by cabbydave on Dec 29, 2011 17:01:00 GMT 12
so miniscule...just make scooters indiscretions look ten times worse  |
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Dec 29, 2011 17:27:01 GMT 12
Refs call without the benefit of video , the call was bad though and prevented Gaskin finishing the job in heat three. This in a time when there is the potential and technology for a replay of some nature. Now call me crazy or idiotic BUT if an infraction incurred the race could be stopped, footage checked and offending parties removed or no action taken. The idea of being removed from a NZ championship because a "ref saw it this way" isnt really acceptable in this day and age. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 17:44:37 GMT 12
Refs call without the benefit of video , the call was bad though and prevented Gaskin finishing the job in heat three. This in a time when there is the potential and technology for a replay of some nature. Now call me crazy or idiotic BUT if an infraction incurred the race could be stopped, footage checked and offending parties removed or no action taken. The idea of being removed from a NZ championship because a "ref saw it this way" isnt really acceptable in this day and age. I suggested this way back at Teams Champs time suggesting the use of 4 cameras, but the idea was shot down by most saying the camera doesn't pick everything up, and the cost would be too much to bear for SNZ....I still disagree. We live in a technology rich world now, it's about time the sport started to embrace it for more than just electronic lap scoring me thinks. |
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Post by busterbell on Dec 29, 2011 18:18:03 GMT 12
To me that looks as though Gaskin's wheel doesn't go "over" the pole line. His wheel was on the pole line. So my question is; does the pole line begin immediately where track hits concrete or does the entire concrete strip constitute the "pole line"? where the track meets the concrete is the line. a easier way to explain is the track is made of clay, and the track is where you race, so once you hit concrete you are on the poleline and deemed off the track. interpretation is wide and varied between officials (as are all rules   ) and seems to be open to the refs discretion |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 18:24:29 GMT 12
I've just got off the phone to Pete. He has some very interesting comments to make of the entire issue, extremely interesting in fact, and will be on LiveSPORT radio at 10.05am tomorrow (Friday) morning to talk about it - and many other things, of course. what frequency is that in the wanganui area 828am comes from PN |
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Post by PantherFan87 on Dec 29, 2011 18:27:23 GMT 12
Paul would not resort to cheating cos both Richard and his dad would kick his a$$!!!
Such a shame. maybe there needs to be a moveable and resizeable sensor placed around the infield limit.. that can register when a car goes over it. ping everyone at once.
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Post by busterbell on Dec 29, 2011 18:31:08 GMT 12
r12-3-5 (g) "any competitor unfairly using the pole line to advantage by placing one or more wheels over the pole line to eliminate another competitor will be fined and excluded." i guess the word "unfairly" is what leads to interpretation and differing views. get rid of that and it is fairly simple and easy to enforce, provided it is seen and not missed by the one eye that may be shut. ;D |
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Post by magem on Dec 29, 2011 18:31:23 GMT 12
Dear Paul,
Bad luck on what was a harsh call mate. Trust me we know how it feels to be on the end of a dodgy, split second call on the pole line. We hope that in the future you are not scrutinized as hard and as regularly as what we are on the issue. Keep your chin up. All the best and good on you for having a go.
Kind regards
Nelson Tigers
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Post by tank11 on Dec 29, 2011 18:36:50 GMT 12
just out of interest at the end of the clip gaskin has retired to the infield does he come back on the track after that or stay on the infield ?? Saw the hit, thought it was a goodie, but then saw that gaskin took off to the infield and stayed there. Perhaps something to do with seeking santury perhaps??? He did about a lap. Suffered damage. |
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Post by PantherFan87 on Dec 29, 2011 18:38:09 GMT 12
Dear Paul, Bad luck on what was a harsh call mate. Trust me we know how it feels to be on the end of a dodgy, split second call on the pole line. We hope that in the future you are not scrutinized as hard and as regularly as what we are on the issue. Keep your chin up. All the best and good on you for having a go. Kind regards Nelson Tigers Really? |
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Post by stockmad on Dec 29, 2011 18:47:50 GMT 12
Dear Paul, Bad luck on what was a harsh call mate. Trust me we know how it feels to be on the end of a dodgy, split second call on the pole line. We hope that in the future you are not scrutinized as hard and as regularly as what we are on the issue. Keep your chin up. All the best and good on you for having a go. Kind regards Nelson Tigers very good post magem . and yes was a hard call on paul he would of made a huge impact on who would of been 1nz if he was in the final |
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Post by Flatchassis on Dec 29, 2011 18:58:11 GMT 12
Rees cuts the grass all the time! just ask glen drabble gaskin was the only qualifier that was sick of seeing that ugly red n yellow heap getting free run after free run!  Good on ya paul!! your the champ of the meeting in my eyes dude!!!  |
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