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Post by Smeats on Jan 29, 2012 11:22:45 GMT 12
Don't take this as a roasting for Huntly but why do the cars have to be parked on the infield prior to the parade. This happens now at most NZs. Is there a park ferme rule similar to WRC, etc. I was standing in the pits for sometime yesterday watching what everyone was doing and it just isn't the same without the cars there. This leads me on to pre-meeting entertainment or lack of it at Championship / Special meetings. Was wondering if anyone had thought of maybe a side-show type deal or even a large screen playing highlights from previous years, etc. With the big meetings there is always a large amount of time from getting a good park and seating position, to the start of proceedings. Rotorua have tried a few things with the Pit Crew competition etc. Also like to see something like a signing session similar to other motorsports. Will just have to take my colouring books for this afternoon...................
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Post by chris13w on Jan 29, 2012 11:49:59 GMT 12
And there is the exact argument against those few tracks that decide to restrict access to the pits during the meeting - they say "why do you need to go in the pits, get there before the meeting and look at the cars then" - great, they're all out on the infield where you can't see them!!
It was exactly the same at Nelson for the NZ Super Saloon champs, get there early to look at the cars - none of them there, all on the infield...
And as you say, who wants to be there two hours before a meeting with nothing to do???
Selling pit passes is the obvious answer.
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Post by Admin on Jan 29, 2012 11:53:53 GMT 12
I actually agree with you guys , isolate the fans and an atmosphere killer in one easy lesson.
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Post by mrmadtaylor on Jan 29, 2012 11:55:52 GMT 12
Would be great to have say 1 hour or so before the start of a meeting get all cars and drivers have to be on the infield and allow Joe public to go view the cars and chat to the drivers.
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Post by saloon14b on Jan 29, 2012 13:08:08 GMT 12
One of the reasons they put the cars on the infield in general, as a red-cap (who I will not name) explained to me, is to prevent people having the time to make wholesale major changes to their cars post scruitineering - i.e. get scruitineered, then have 3 hours to put all the illegal stuff back onto their cars.
I know it's hard to imagine anyone in our sport cheating......
It's sad that the crowd can't get a good look at them. Can't understand why they don't allow crowd onto infield to have a decent look before meeting, but again perhaps its designed to prevent people tampering etc...
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Post by Shai-tan on Jan 29, 2012 14:13:14 GMT 12
One of the reasons they put the cars on the infield in general, as a red-cap (who I will not name) explained to me, is to prevent people having the time to make wholesale major changes to their cars post scruitineering - i.e. get scruitineered, then have 3 hours to put all the illegal stuff back onto their cars. I know it's hard to imagine anyone in our sport cheating...... It's sad that the crowd can't get a good look at them. Can't understand why they don't allow crowd onto infield to have a decent look before meeting, but again perhaps its designed to prevent people tampering etc... Anyone cheating? After Blair Cunningham's run-off with Mark Decke last year Blair discovered his rear fuel valve halfway between on and off, I was there when he seen it. |
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Post by rustytim on Jan 29, 2012 14:46:11 GMT 12
One of the reasons they put the cars on the infield in general, as a red-cap (who I will not name) explained to me, is to prevent people having the time to make wholesale major changes to their cars post scruitineering - i.e. get scruitineered, then have 3 hours to put all the illegal stuff back onto their cars. I know it's hard to imagine anyone in our sport cheating...... It's sad that the crowd can't get a good look at them. Can't understand why they don't allow crowd onto infield to have a decent look before meeting, but again perhaps its designed to prevent people tampering etc... Anyone cheating? After Blair Cunningham's run-off with Mark Decke last year Blair discovered his rear fuel valve halfway between on and off, I was there when he seen it. I think its a bit much to assume this is someone cheating.. I have seen taps rattle themselves to the off or nearly off position before. |
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Post by Shai-tan on Jan 29, 2012 14:49:28 GMT 12
Anyone cheating? After Blair Cunningham's run-off with Mark Decke last year Blair discovered his rear fuel valve halfway between on and off, I was there when he seen it. I think its a bit much to assume this is someone cheating.. I have seen taps rattle themselves to the off or nearly off position before. My first reaction also - not same reaction as those around the car. Nothing to be done now, ovbiously no one will ever know.... |
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Post by Horizon on Jan 29, 2012 17:59:32 GMT 12
Had exactly the same in Wellington a few years back, once scrutineered the car were parked on infield so no work could be done on them, also had to have staff on pit gate to ensure no public could go look or tamper with the cars. Only way I see a way round this would be to set up a time in a central location for a met & greet for Joe Public, my two cents worth any way
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Post by chris13w on Jan 29, 2012 21:46:24 GMT 12
Had exactly the same in Wellington a few years back, once scrutineered the car were parked on infield so no work could be done on them, also had to have staff on pit gate to ensure no public could go look or tamper with the cars. Only way I see a way round this would be to set up a time in a central location for a met & greet for Joe Public, my two cents worth any way Except in Wellington you are welcome to come down to the pits to have a look at the cars and meet the drivers, not the same at tracks like Huntly and Nelson. |
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Post by incursa on Jan 29, 2012 22:55:31 GMT 12
hmm yes a meet and greet rotorua has had the best idea for this in the last 2 years do the scrutineer in a public place so the public can get involved and get pictures and autographs then you can show up just before start time get a seat and be satisfied because you got to see all the cars and how they check them over i loved it whats every bodies else opinion on this way of doing things i think palmy also dose this for the teams champs havnt been down there for a couple of years now go the rebels  |
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Post by escort2 on Jan 30, 2012 0:58:05 GMT 12
A drivers signing session would be a huge leap in promoting the sport, it would also allow teams to have a stack of posters with their sponsors on them and give them out to fans, (or other merch) they could have it in the infield an hour or two before the race on one of the days. I know this was tried at kihikihi NZ champs but none of the drivers turned up to the signing area.
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Post by m1089 on Jan 30, 2012 6:03:35 GMT 12
I always believed that they were put into parc ferme.
This is so that, as already mentioned the cars cannot be changed other than setup.
This stems from that cars must be weighed "as if about to race"
ie: Full of fuel, water, fancy garage door/wing fitted, battery fitted (or not if you drive round with a slave batt on the side rail), aluminium/light grade steel wheel gates removed and heavier ones in place... to name a few reasons.
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Post by Smeats on Jan 30, 2012 7:54:15 GMT 12
Thanks for the feedback. Thought there was a reason behind it. Now have a look at the following 2 pics, which underline what Spectator and I were talking about on Saturday. The first is looking to right side of the pits, where mostly the Qualifiers were parked, the second is the left side where the Repercharge squad were parked. Just so much more atmosphere on the left side.   A bit of creative thinking should find a happy medium for future meetings. I just think it wouldn't take too much to create a carnival (for want of a better description) atmosphere, expanding on the Family Entertainment theme. Now I accept that most tracks are run by clubs relying on Volunteers, but I also think SNZ and SPANZ could have some input of both concept and resources. The result, I would like to think would be to entice your average family to a afternoon/evening of Speedway instead of a day at the beach / park, etc. |
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