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Post by clifford6 on Jun 6, 2013 21:17:08 GMT 12
Hi, does anyone know anything about this new club?? Contacts etc
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Post by craige on Jun 7, 2013 19:15:38 GMT 12
Hi, does anyone know anything about this new club?? Contacts etc is a newly formed club for lower ni classic stockcars and classic speedway cars etc in general .the clubs clubrooms and meeting place is at harrisville speedway.our president is paul urlich,his wife is treasuer.angela cromarty is secatery...committe consists of ernie christianson.mark cromarty ,warren (cant remeber old fellas last name lol) and president etc. there is another club meeting on 30th june at harrisville in the bar at 12pm from what i remember at last meeting ......a few other things are penciled in to but cant say what as not 100% confirmed yet until a week or so from the meeting.at this stage i think there is around 30 odd members and at last count 17 cars in lower north island from taupo down to wellington........ stratford.........2 wanganui..........5 including myself palmy ............3 if count bruce roberrtsons no1 tank manakau ..........1 dave evans old car..............which by user name thinks its you dannivirkes ernie christinson........3 cars (greedy sod lol ) hawkesbay........2 if sidewinder chassis is all ok to run wellington ......2 and one member has a old saloon car also a vintage tq midget mate has recently purchased the club wont be restricted just to stockcars pm me if ya want contact numbers for any of the above mentioned people |
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Post by porry41 on Jun 10, 2013 18:33:08 GMT 12
are they running same rules a regs as golden oldies ie tin bodies 310 c.i etc .you should get hold of blondie .ive sent his original rover back down to him .he has the 3 off them now under resto .the one here was the wheel packer at huntly .my x stockie is down there in mark spears capical hands .but interested in the saloon aspect .could pull the tr8 out ov the padock .mite jump in the bus an come for a look ....L
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Post by craige on Jun 10, 2013 20:11:35 GMT 12
are they running same rules a regs as golden oldies ie tin bodies 310 c.i etc .you should get hold of blondie .ive sent his original rover back down to him .he has the 3 off them now under resto .the one here was the wheel packer at huntly .my x stockie is down there in mark spears capical hands .but interested in the saloon aspect .could pull the tr8 out ov the padock .mite jump in the bus an come for a look ....L there is a proposed set of rules floating around at the moment lorrie.......and will be snz rules when set in place.they are similar rules to streetstocks.......engines will be 290 cu inches or les same as streetstocks as i understand.....and re the tin body from what i understand it can be a fibreglass body appropeiate the the era the car you will be running.cars will be from 1960 to 1985 era..some early 80s cars had fibreglass bodies so if rules are set in place you could run a firbreglass body if car came out with in before 1985..........be worth ya while cruising down for a nosey on the 30th june to.have heard couple guys up your way coming down to |
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Post by porry41 on Jun 18, 2013 10:14:46 GMT 12
hope to get down that way if bus is finished in time getting water tanks etc fitted to become self contained .talk about speedway rules you think there bad ...any way interesting to see they capped motor size to 290 where golden oldies are 310 .this going to cause a conflic .car i sent down there was 350 then down sized to 305 at great expense .thort that club was goin to run same rules an specs otherwise were goin to have problems all over .i have another car in pipe line but not sure at this stage were its going .cheers .L.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 13:34:09 GMT 12
so there are now two golden oldie style clubs? with differing rules.....it doesnt matter who was where first...but it seems a real shame to be running two sets of rules which sooner or later will cause a conflab.....and the SNZ factor...is it really necessary to hook up with the national body?....will you lose control over your sport by doing this?...right now the members are setting the agenda I expect...but what happens if SNZ poke their nose into it...are you sure you'll all still be happy having to toe the SNZ line if it ever comes to it?
It seems that there is real growth in "collector" and "enthusiast" racing of former era cars... keeping one set of rules and maintaining your "self determination" would be two vital areas I would have thought.....only an opinion...Z
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Post by craige on Jun 27, 2013 17:51:32 GMT 12
so there are now two golden oldie style clubs? with differing rules.....it doesnt matter who was where first...but it seems a real shame to be running two sets of rules which sooner or later will cause a conflab.....and the SNZ factor...is it really necessary to hook up with the national body?....will you lose control over your sport by doing this?...right now the members are setting the agenda I expect...but what happens if SNZ poke their nose into it...are you sure you'll all still be happy having to toe the SNZ line if it ever comes to it? It seems that there is real growth in "collector" and "enthusiast" racing of former era cars... keeping one set of rules and maintaining your "self determination" would be two vital areas I would have thought.....only an opinion...Z might need to do some homework before typing zitadel..yes there are two clubs.both will be running under rules from snz not club rules.snz wanted some ground rules put into palce after a incident up north .a giude line of rules was drafted up and sent to snz .which are virtualy streetstock rules with a few lil extras added in.the club down here will be working in with the golden oldies club up north.i am a member of both clubs and will be next season to.and a few others down here are in same boat .and some of the golden oldies have signed up to be members of our club to.cant see there being as conflict at all really as will be under snz rules once they are finalised btw check ya pm mate  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 19:43:17 GMT 12
umm..writing a thing and getting the reply is the homework.....maybe I'll use more question marks...any way the interesting thing was the discrepancy in engine sizes re Porry's post...
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Post by craige on Jun 28, 2013 6:49:21 GMT 12
umm..writing a thing and getting the reply is the homework.....maybe I'll use more question marks...any way the interesting thing was the discrepancy in engine sizes re Porry's post... sorry bout that.yup golden oldies rule was 310 cu inch.but snz want to limit engines to 290 cu inch now |
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Post by mcfly on Jun 28, 2013 7:18:57 GMT 12
umm..writing a thing and getting the reply is the homework.....maybe I'll use more question marks...any way the interesting thing was the discrepancy in engine sizes re Porry's post... sorry bout that.yup golden oldies rule was 310 cu inch.but snz want to limit engines to 290 cu inch now Why are they not run as per the specification of the times that they were competing? this would be the authentic way would it not? |
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Post by sidewinder on Jun 28, 2013 22:33:47 GMT 12
Expense is the problem, to sleeve back engines to reduce cubes is not easy or cheap to do as one has to find pistons to suit or a crankshaft and rods to suit. Way better to get engines in original factory stock size as easier and cheaper to build or rebuild.
290 max is a good size as it works for 289 Fords, 283 Chevs, 273 Chryslers or anything else under 290 one happens to like or prefer.
We are not racing for titles so there is not a problem.
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Post by craige on Jun 28, 2013 23:06:44 GMT 12
sorry bout that.yup golden oldies rule was 310 cu inch.but snz want to limit engines to 290 cu inch now Why are they not run as per the specification of the times that they were competing? this would be the authentic way would it not? as anthony said.expense id say.do 4 or 5 meeting a year.and i for one cant affod to spend 6 or so grand doing a chev v8 for a handful of meetings.and remember most guys running these cars are well over 50 .big horse power fast cars could be a bit of a handful lol...and most joe public wouldnt know if ya cars a 283 for argument sakes or a 248 cu inch chev |
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Post by paulurlich on Aug 19, 2013 21:40:16 GMT 12
Hi, does anyone know anything about this new club?? Contacts etc is a newly formed club for lower ni classic stockcars and classic speedway cars etc in general .the clubs clubrooms and meeting place is at harrisville speedway.our president is paul urlich,his wife is treasuer.angela cromarty is secatery...committe consists of ernie christianson.mark cromarty ,warren (cant remeber old fellas last name lol) and president etc. there is another club meeting on 30th june at harrisville in the bar at 12pm from what i remember at last meeting ......a few other things are penciled in to but cant say what as not 100% confirmed yet until a week or so from the meeting.at this stage i think there is around 30 odd members and at last count 17 cars in lower north island from taupo down to wellington........ stratford.........2 wanganui..........5 including myself palmy ............3 if count bruce roberrtsons no1 tank manakau ..........1 dave evans old car..............which by user name thinks its you dannivirkes ernie christinson........3 cars (greedy sod lol ) hawkesbay........2 if sidewinder chassis is all ok to run wellington ......2 and one member has a old saloon car also a vintage tq midget mate has recently purchased the club wont be restricted just to stockcars pm me if ya want contact numbers for any of the above mentioned people |
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Post by paulurlich on Aug 19, 2013 22:00:21 GMT 12
Hi Just an update on progress on the old 41s. The Falcon engine has goone. The 240 Ford V8 is mounted in place. Exhaust headers done, radiator mounted just working through torsion bar brake and clutch pedal mounts. Chopped 200mm out od body width. Classic Club get together on Sunday 19th September at Harrisville, 12 pm start. Barbecue/chinwag / car display. Guys will bring along cars so people can see their progress. Brent indicated weather permitting and as long as the track is not too wet we could see some skids. Photos to follow. Yours In Racing Paul ![]() |
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Post by clifford6 on Sept 3, 2013 19:13:44 GMT 12
Sunday 19th September is actually on Thursday this year!
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Post by craige on Sept 4, 2013 6:56:07 GMT 12
Sunday 19th September is actually on Thursday this year! the meeting is the 15th of september.not this sunday but the following |
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Post by paulurlich on Sept 8, 2013 13:08:32 GMT 12
Hi Just getting ahead of myself in my last post the 19th of Oct is actually the first Meeting at Huntly for the Golden Oldies/Classic Stockcars and our Classic club get together/barby is at Harrisville on Sunday 15th September at 12 oclock . There will be a car display of work in progress and weather permitting maybe some skids on the track. There has been a meeting held between SNZ and the groups involved around the rules /guidlines for running our demonstrations this coming season . We plan to have a draft document which still needs SNZ directors approval there for people to read and by all reports it is all about clarifying what we have been doing in the past , making sure the cars are safe to be on the track and that we are doing the laps in the spirit that it has been intended .
Yours in Racing
Paul Urlich 41s
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Post by porry41 on Oct 12, 2013 10:09:44 GMT 12
have been talking to a lot of past an present members of golden oldies an weve lost a few ...it appears now that we have two clubs with totally different rules .in breif your club is running space & flat chassies & fiber bodies .engine configerations fine .85 on wards or exceptions for notible retired cars .no contact.GOLDEN OLDIES flat chassies & tin bodies only no fiber bodies but contact .so your club cannot run with oldies but g/oldies can run with your club .on checking ive found that fibre bodies were running in the earlie 80.s an also there are very few tin bodied cars still in existant .i have a here car built in 84 it has a fibre body .this body rule needs to be addressed .ive brought this out in the open as there seems to be lake of communication an disscussion amoungts the lay members .secrete meetings behind members backs as in my case .i was one of the original members an on 1st committee that wrote some of the engine rules etc we had news letters .but new committee . rules need to brought into one line..
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Post by angela12 on Oct 12, 2013 16:18:42 GMT 12
Hi I would just like to clarify a few things. The CCSSC will be running class 2 and class 3 with in the SNZ rules. (These classes will not be running together.) It is Our understanding that the Waikato Golden Oldies are only going to be running class 2 and the Historic Club is only going to be running class 1. (If you wish a copy of the rules please feel free to contact your club or SNZ for a copy as these are available to everybody.) Each club has the right to have club rules, but these should with in the guides of SNZ rules. So the WGO are with in there rights to have the rule of tin bodies flat chassis only BUT our club has the rule that if a car was built with a tin body then it must have the same tin body it was built with, if it was built with a fibre body then that is what it must be restored with. (This has to be backed up with photos and documentation.) Because the year of the car has changed since the forming of the WGO to 1985 cut off we feel that there is cars that were built brand new with fibre bodies. So Porry41 If the car that you have can be proved to have a fibre body and built in 84 then it would qualify in class 2 in our club.
But Huntly Speedway have opted to say that NO STEEL BODY NO RACE. ( this from a club that had new cars racing with the old cars the last few season.) We have ask the club why they have ruled this but yet to receive a reply. As far as we know no other club has made this ruling yet. We have the rule that our club members to race are to be over 45 and the WGO do not have a age rule any more but we would not stop their members from racing with us. Every club has the right to have their rules but why should these rules impede any of any other clubs members from competing with in SNZ rules on SNZ Tracks.
The SNZ Rules are the rules that should be enforced on SNZ tracks not the Clubs Rules.
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Post by porry41 on Oct 12, 2013 20:21:51 GMT 12
yes angela but here we have 2 clubs with same interests and cars .but two conflicting sets of rules .you say you dont mind wgo running with your club... but wgo wont let you run with them. as stated above.no wonder some people are getting pissed and have walked .....
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