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Post by tank11 on Dec 21, 2013 4:15:34 GMT 12
Just saying Big "O", that the pull down is done in a timely and efficient manner.
From both sides.
Complaint laid and deposit paid.
Motor is taken to said re-builder (SNZ approved).
Funds shown to be available if motor legit .
Motor pulled apart.
Costs fall where-ever.
Time allowed ---- 1 month?
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Post by engineer on Dec 21, 2013 7:16:43 GMT 12
From what I know of all this situation is the reason it is taking a while is that what ever happens will set the precident for all that come along next...This needs to be done right and written up so there are no grey areas and who ever protests understands what actual costs are involved as well as procedure...
Let's all just hope that sanity prevails and the champs do not become a major drama with protests and Bullnuts...
Merry Xmas to you all,see you at the track...As Barry say's...Do it in the dirt....Not the court room...
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Post by Phred on Dec 21, 2013 7:59:08 GMT 12
Although they definitely want to win all the competitors I have been in contact with only want legal engines.
Yes they are frustrated that there are potential anomalies and other competitors have possibly taken advantage of the current situation.
The situation was partly created when it was discovered that the “whistler” under reads compression on four valve motors.
At least one engine builder may have taken advantage of this anomaly and was/is rumoured to build motors with compression ratios to suit the whistler test as opposed to the actual compression ratio. (Increasing compression above specification on an engine built to comply to the current superstock regulations may significantly increase both torque and power)
It is to the betterment of the sport as a whole that this engine is to be properly examined.
There is no intent to cast any negative inferences on the competitor who is cited in this matter.
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Post by BarryB on Dec 21, 2013 9:27:57 GMT 12
From what I know of all this situation is the reason it is taking a while is that what ever happens will set the precident for all that come along next...This needs to be done right and written up so there are no grey areas and who ever protests understands what actual costs are involved as well as procedure... Let's all just hope that sanity prevails and the champs do not become a major drama with protests and Bullnuts... Merry Xmas to you all,see you at the track...As Barry say's...Do it in the dirt....Not the court room... I hope the same, but there's also the onus of everybody being legal, and SNZ ensuring they are legal. That is what is happening, of course, the engine builder has rights as well, and you should hear something in the not far too distant future. Interesting times.... Let's all do it in the dirt, Barry B |
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Post by Regan O'Brien on Dec 21, 2013 13:58:23 GMT 12
lets start a new page about motors as this is about the NZ superstock entries which is looking very impressive, and are looking at having 30+ cars running tonight as a shake down before the NZ's. AWESOME cause Im in it YEEEEEEEAA BOI!!!!! lol
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Post by hbspeedwaychaser on Dec 21, 2013 14:04:18 GMT 12
Agree there regan the subject has gone of topic.Lets bring on the 2014 Nz Superstock champs.
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Post by speedway86 on Dec 21, 2013 14:32:20 GMT 12
Agree there regan the subject has gone of topic.Lets bring on the 2014 Nz Superstock champs. yes i agree aswell,gone well off the subject |
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Post by banaro on Dec 21, 2013 15:27:00 GMT 12
Where are all the Wellington Wildcats..Mike Pye, Allen Levien, Scott McIntosh, Paul Gaskin? Will the Wildcats have a team for Palmy this season?? Allen Levien has entered ,Mike pye has sold his car to Josh Kahui who is entred Scooter is running as a stockcar,Paul gaskin was driving Clive Eliots car ,who i think is entered and Paul Fairbrother only hit the track last week but i expect he will run,also Dales car is sold ,as for the team one can only guess they will be there |
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Post by Sharns With Sparky on Dec 21, 2013 15:59:00 GMT 12
There was talk of pye building a new car
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Post by 4zfed on Dec 22, 2013 17:21:31 GMT 12
So when will the promotion stop taking entries?
Levien isnt on the entry list yet but people say hes entered?
Does anybody know how Sam Bartholomews leg injury is?
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Post by craige on Dec 22, 2013 17:40:08 GMT 12
From what I know of all this situation is the reason it is taking a while is that what ever happens will set the precident for all that come along next...This needs to be done right and written up so there are no grey areas and who ever protests understands what actual costs are involved as well as procedure... Let's all just hope that sanity prevails and the champs do not become a major drama with protests and Bullnuts... Merry Xmas to you all,see you at the track...As Barry say's...Do it in the dirt....Not the court room... I hope the same, but there's also the onus of everybody being legal, and SNZ ensuring they are legal. That is what is happening, of course, the engine builder has rights as well, and you should hear something in the not far too distant future. Interesting times.... Let's all do it in the dirt, Barry B motor stripped and checked yesterday barry.5 people there ,kerry p.dude from rotorua .mr blackley ,mr hiebner and mr rees....................................... engines under compression and under size.......equals legal beaggle engine |
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Post by BarryB on Dec 22, 2013 17:48:20 GMT 12
Maybe........I couldn't comment right now for more than one reason, one being that we must not hi-jack this thread further than it already has been.
Let's all do it in the dirt,
Barry B
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Post by superford on Dec 22, 2013 21:43:50 GMT 12
Maybe........I couldn't comment right now for more than one reason, one being that we must not hi-jack this thread further than it already has been. Let's all do it in the dirt, Barry B How can it be "maybe" Barry? - Legal or illegal like pass or fail is not a particularly difficult concept I would have thought... Perhaps this discussion needs its own thread because I find the topic incredibly interesting. Knowing that Mr Rees has had an issue with the engine builder for a good number of years now, (and I think even making another dig during his 'smack torque' interview?) he seems to me to be getting very close to the line of slander - but that is just my observation. |
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Post by TonyG188r on Dec 23, 2013 10:02:18 GMT 12
Superstocks Groups now posted  Blue Group 1NZ Shane Penn5P Gareth Edwards 11A Carl Hodge15V Kyle Heibner17P Kenley Brown18N Shane Harwood22B Zach Lawrence23B Wayne Talbot33R Robbie Mabey41B Jason Long46B Quinn Ryan57P Dave Tarrant72P Simon Joblin75S Carl Shearer81B Sam Bartholomew84B Mike McLachlan89C Jason Smith95P Clive Elliott118R Bryce Steiner135R Scott Hewson351A Paul VazeyOrange Group
2NZ Dale McKenzie
4P Chad Ace
5A Brad Ridland
5N Nick Fowler
7A Jamie Ferguson
7C Neil Frew
8P Scott Miers
9B Adam Groome
14N Dale Ewers
15B Willy Rogers
27B Shane Warner
38M Ross Ashby
46N Blair Cunningham
58P Peter Bengton
59P Stephen Penn
62P Adam Joblin
66B Tony Meechan
68R Ashton Fleming
88C Reece Ward
92M Kyle Fraser
95R Tony Fabish
White Group 4B Joe Faram 5S Nik Kiser 6B Mike Groome 7M Kyle Stove 14B Dave Hatton 19C Malcolm Ngatai 31P Andy McCabe 32P Graeme Barr 37B Gary Foley 42A Bernie Fox 52B Regan O’Brien 52P Scott Joblin 61B Michael Peryer 62H Dayne Condor 71M Tony Wootton 73M Kyle Ross 74R Michael Aulding 84N Anthony McKenzie 126P Asher Rees 186N Jared Gray 282S Phil Ogle 591P Wayne Hemi Yellow Group
3NZ Thomas Stanaway
4W Josh Kahui
7B Jarrod Lindsay
7N Craig Boote
10P Peter Rees
16B Steve Jude
23R Lance Ashton
29B Matt Demanser
36P Jacob Baker
46W Allen Levien
48N Brett Nicholls
52W Paul Fairbrother
71P Shane Mellsop
77B Mac Kwok
87M David Elsworth
88P Jack Miers
98B Quintin Butcher
98P Craig Humphries
113M Tony Takurua
434R Richard Mahy
581P Jordan Dare |
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Post by TonyG188r on Dec 23, 2013 10:16:17 GMT 12
My own opinionated probable 6 from each group, in saying the following there are a lot of home drivers with B on their cars that i couldn't make a accurate judgement on. and of course after the first heat im sure things would change very quickly if damage occurs or whatever else in such an unpredictable motorsport haha
Some hard groups in there to choose 6 from
Blue - 1NZP, 18N, 72P, 118R, 135R, 351A
Orange - 4P, 38M, 58P, 62P, 66B, 92M (possibles 5N, 8P, 14N, 27B, 95R very hard to choose from Hard group!!)
White - 4B, 19C, 32P, 52P, 74R, 126P (possibles 31P, 62H, 186N, 282S, 591P, another tough group to choose)
Yellow - 3NZB, 10P, 16B, 23R, 87M, 88P (possibles 7N if he doesnt get targeted!, 48N, 71P, 98P, 113M)
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Post by tony27 on Dec 23, 2013 10:26:51 GMT 12
Big call to not pick 2nz to get through or even be in the possibles of the orange group, certainly going to be some hard racing both nights
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Post by TonyG188r on Dec 23, 2013 10:37:43 GMT 12
Big call to not pick 2nz to get through or even be in the possibles of the orange group, certainly going to be some hard racing both nights geez i completely overlooked Dale too, oops, just adds to another one of the possibles, didnt do possibles for the first group either was going to pick just 6 but thought it was too hard after reading orange. Orange i would rate as being the toughest group by the looks of things. |
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Post by theothermikeyb on Dec 23, 2013 12:02:18 GMT 12
The way I see it is - try not to over or under state the South Islanders
- home track means very little in a big field
- few tanks seem to qualify for the NZ's - other than a P and an R 3
- some drivers have appearted little or have mechanical issues
Blue and white were the hardest ttwo groups to pick from. Orange only had 5 initially so feel thats the group we will get a suprise from so I went for 27B but he was not in my original list. Superstocks Groups now posted Blue Group 1NZ Shane Penn18N Shane Harwood72P Simon Joblin118R Bryce Steiner135R Scott Hewson351A Paul VazeyOrange Group
5N Nick Fowler
27B Shane Warner
38M Ross Ashby
58P Peter Bengton
62P Adam Joblin
92M Kyle Fraser
White Group 4B Joe Faram 19C Malcolm Ngatai 31P Andy McCabe 32P Graeme Barr 52B Regan O’Brien 52P Scott Joblin Yellow Group
7N Craig Boote
10P Peter Rees
16B Steve Jude
48N Brett Nicholls
71P Shane Mellsop
87M David Elsworth
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Post by 4zfed on Dec 23, 2013 12:07:24 GMT 12
After Saturday nights race 1 dramas anything could happen 21 cars DNF'd race 1.
All groups look tough & a driver that did a great job on Sat night and was getting the power to the ground was 471P Benji Sneddon in the ex Geoff James/Dale Robertson V6 Gorge.
Good luck to all and by the looks shes going to be slick.
Unless he gets drilled Shane Penn will be the man to watch again, was very controlled in winning both first heats Sat night.
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Post by bustersno1fan on Dec 23, 2013 12:59:13 GMT 12
Mine is very close to the one above
Blue
1NZ Shane Penn
18N Shane Harwood
46B Quinn Ryan
72P Simon Joblin
118R Bryce Steiner
135R Scott Hewson
Orange
2NZ Dale McKenzie
5N Nick Fowler
8P Scott Miers
38M Ross Ashby
58P Peter Bengton
95R Tony Fabish
White
4B Joe Faram
19C Malcolm Ngatai
31P Andy McCabe
32P Graeme Barr
52P Scott Joblin
282S Phil Ogle
Yellow
3NZ Thomas Stanaway
7N Craig Boote
10P Peter Rees
16B Steve Jude
87M David Elsworth
88P Jack Miers
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