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Post by dutchy 72t on Aug 11, 2014 5:11:44 GMT 12
I haven't seen much in the way of saloon news lately so I thought I'd start a thread myself... Is there any saloon news out there? new cars hitting the track? new saloon drivers joining the ranks?
At Central Motor Speedway we are already looking at 13 contracted saloons for the coming season with at least 3 of those new to the grade! Also for any South Island saloon competitors; your fellow competitors Graham Williamson and Lloyd Phillips along with Jason Gutteridge are currently in the process of setting up a new South Island series dubbed "saloon slam". Going by rumours on format, prizes and suggested high level of racing, be sure to follow this closely as it will be capped at 20 entries (to the best of my knowledge).
On a personal front; this season is going to be massive! The South Island is where it is at this coming season with plenty of racing to be had. I'm looking forward to the DHL and the New Zealand title as well as the NZGP and the Saloon Slam... My brother has his new car completely ready to go after a shake-down at Easter so it will be good to actually race him for a change too (really haven't had too many opportunities yet despite the fact he was one of the main reasons for me to convert my car to saloon spec...)
Bring on the new season!!!
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Post by frog77 on Aug 11, 2014 8:33:25 GMT 12
Hi all Tim Alexander(me) ex 59a saloon now in Blenheim getting a tidy up and engine work for an old ancient broken stock car driver new to class but been around a year or three, id better learn quick aye!  I think we have 13 cars here at Eastern states so far with a few maybes. I am keen on any series or meetings anywhere in the south island if anyone has any info pm me. Ta Tim |
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Post by panicstations on Aug 11, 2014 20:02:22 GMT 12
Hey there, I ran as 10k the past 3 seasons out of Auckland but will don the E running out of Nelson this season… looking forward to the DHL, NZ's and South Island Champs:)
Bob
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Aug 12, 2014 14:57:31 GMT 12
Hey there, I ran as 10k the past 3 seasons out of Auckland but will don the E running out of Nelson this season… looking forward to the DHL, NZ's and South Island Champs:) Bob
Didn't think Nelson contracted Saloons or raced them?
We'll be in the South with the old car, hopefully on at least a couple of occasions, and looking to hit a few of my favourite haunts, Woodford Glen, Ashburton. West coast would be great! 
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Post by mrrx on Aug 12, 2014 16:48:56 GMT 12
and the DIRT ROTOR RACING rx7 will be back this season looking forward to racing again with you Tim the old proddy days were great seems so long ago now also murry the holden mazda challenge is on again yes |
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Post by Pirate Racing NZ on Aug 12, 2014 18:50:56 GMT 12
My car is looking at being ready for the season start at Rotorua. Still lots to sort let alone learning how to drive it. Can't wait to hear it start for the first time. Two years in the build, all by me.
Hope to be starting a new job soon that does'nt affect speedway season. Bring on the dirt.
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Post by mrrx on Aug 12, 2014 19:02:24 GMT 12
great too hear mate good luck  |
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Post by Speedway Central (David) on Aug 12, 2014 21:25:18 GMT 12
Hey there, I ran as 10k the past 3 seasons out of Auckland but will don the E running out of Nelson this season… looking forward to the DHL, NZ's and South Island Champs:) Bob
Didn't think Nelson contracted Saloons or raced them?
We'll be in the South with the old car, hopefully on at least a couple of occasions, and looking to hit a few of my favourite haunts, Woodford Glen, Ashburton. West coast would be great!
Lived in Auckland and ran out of Kihikiki Lives in Nelson and running out of Blenhiem, Murray |
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Aug 13, 2014 21:07:00 GMT 12
My couple of races at Nelson has me think that the saloons are best placed for Nelson track, more so than Blenheim, and the super saloons at Blenheim. I'd certainly like to race Nelson again!
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Aug 17, 2014 19:07:20 GMT 12
... Also for any South Island saloon competitors; your fellow competitors Graham Williamson and Lloyd Phillips along with Jason Gutteridge are currently in the process of setting up a new South Island series dubbed "saloon slam". Going by rumours on format, prizes and suggested high level of racing, be sure to follow this closely as it will be capped at 20 entries (to the best of my knowledge).
The capping of competitors eligible to take part in a 'series' is cause for concern and I struggle to understand why.
Not all can afford the time or the dollars to commit to a series BUT all add value to the spectator.
At participating tracks local contracted drivers can end up sitting on their trailers that aren't part of the series.
If a series is about promoting a class, maximizing exposure and experience, winners with accumulated points, I can't find, haven't heard, any rational that supports excluding competitors.
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Post by panicstations on Aug 17, 2014 20:16:54 GMT 12
Grandad Grandad Grandad, you really are sounding like a sad old thing these days…
Many events have a cap and it works in two ways,
1. The track hosting can get an idea of numbers earlier and can make a format and other arrangements around a definite number.
2. Competitors that want to attend know that they had better confirm sooner than later if they don't want to miss out.
As any class rep would tell you not knowing if you have 8 cars or 28 cars a week out from an event doesn't work too good… not to mention who actually turns up in the day.
I say good on Cromwell for arranging another event for our class!!
Bob 10e
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Post by midway on Aug 17, 2014 21:07:48 GMT 12
Grandad Grandad Grandad, you really are sounding like a sad old thing these days… |
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Aug 17, 2014 23:10:54 GMT 12
Grandad Grandad Grandad, you really are sounding like a sad old thing these days…
Many events have a cap and it works in two ways,
1. The track hosting can get an idea of numbers earlier and can make a format and other arrangements around a definite number.
2. Competitors that want to attend know that they had better confirm sooner than later if they don't want to miss out.
As any class rep would tell you not knowing if you have 8 cars or 28 cars a week out from an event doesn't work too good… not to mention who actually turns up in the day.
I say good on Cromwell for arranging another event for our class!!
Bob 10e
You got the old correct, the rest is misguided. Think you're missing the point for some reason. It's not about me - I can race the length of NZ at my discretion, it's about those that can't!
You're an ugly intimidating bunch at times that likely explains why so few share a thought, express a concern in an open forum and save it for a quiet comment over a beer!
I totally agree competitor numbers and timely entries are very important for all, advertising, attracting a crowd.
Nowhere do I suggest that a competitor should just turn up un-announced as of right!
I'm just sharing a thought that, subject to a prior entry being received, does it really matter if a competitor is unable to compete in all rounds of a series.
That's not a trick question.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 7:07:21 GMT 12
Grandad Grandad Grandad, you really are sounding like a sad old thing these days… Many events have a cap and it works in two ways, 1. The track hosting can get an idea of numbers earlier and can make a format and other arrangements around a definite number. 2. Competitors that want to attend know that they had better confirm sooner than later if they don't want to miss out. As any class rep would tell you not knowing if you have 8 cars or 28 cars a week out from an event doesn't work too good… not to mention who actually turns up in the day. I say good on Cromwell for arranging another event for our class!! Bob 10e So I assume if the series is going to travel the entire south island, any competitor who registers with the series will be required to make a certain number of meetings regardless of wether the car, let alone drivers wallet, is actually up to it? Personally Ive seen that even in the burger king sscar series drivers have had to pull out with too much damage or been unable to make every race for a variety of reasons. Ive also never seen them stop local drivers competing against them even though they are not part of the cup - discouraged maybe, but not stopped. and if you know that you are less likely to be able to race at various tracks because of this series, why register there? If you are unlikely to be able to even join this series - 20 cars is not many after all - why try? You would be dedicating yourself to spending money you may not have to keep your car running in a series you may not even be able to get into with the large number of other cars down there. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 9:21:30 GMT 12
I remember Steve Williams telling me when he first org'd the North Island Saloon tour (DHL?) that cause they were doing 7 race nights over 8 days or something like that he was hand picking and inviting the cars he wanted for two reasons, He wanted to know they had the resources to do the full series & wanted to know that they had the ability to race in traffic without taking half the field out. I suppose you can call that playing god and wanting control but on a tight time frame it kind of makes sense.
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Aug 18, 2014 16:13:47 GMT 12
I remember Steve Williams telling me when he first org'd the North Island Saloon tour (DHL?) that cause they were doing 7 race nights over 8 days or something like that he was hand picking and inviting the cars he wanted for two reasons, He wanted to know they had the resources to do the full series & wanted to know that they had the ability to race in traffic without taking half the field out. I suppose you can call that playing god and wanting control but on a tight time frame it kind of makes sense.
Aware of this rational, but it doesn't stack up.
I were doing 30-50 meetings a year around the country and I avoid damage like the plague as I'm no mechanic and even less an engineer!
My observations has experience racers doing most of the damage, NOT the inexperienced.
The inexperienced tend to be cautious and respectful.
The experienced is more likely to throw caution to the wind and be less respectful.
Springs to mind is the incident with Lance Jennings in the super saloon series at Huntly!
I'm just a fan for maximum participation, maximum benefit.
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Post by panicstations on Aug 18, 2014 18:15:46 GMT 12
Sorry Murray, I thought it was a one off event! Maybe the south island drivers want first dibs to a southern saloon series:)
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Post by theothermikeyb on Aug 18, 2014 19:01:18 GMT 12
Sorry Murray, I thought it was a one off event! Maybe the south island drivers want first dibs to a southern saloon series:) Suspect that's not what the sponsors want! |
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Post by spdwayorthehway on Aug 18, 2014 19:17:12 GMT 12
There are 28 entries in the series this year, 17 from the North and 11 from the South.
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Post by panicstations on Aug 20, 2014 19:26:05 GMT 12
With respect to the Saloon Slam, presumed that it was another southern series running alongside the dhl?? If so wouldn't it be supported by south island based cars??
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