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Post by methanol99 on Nov 1, 2015 17:09:25 GMT 12
its pretty harsh to say numbers are in decline in october. when january is still two months away. one class that is in decline in the north is streetstocks. but thats another matter entirely. yes early days i think there will always be a place for modifieds just needs places like Huntly having 2 this year which could lead to 4 next maybe get them back in Hawkes Bay. As for street stocks not trying to get of main topic here but this class has a harder future maybe |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 17:35:13 GMT 12
It would be great to see streetstock numbers grow. They are grass roots entry level racing. Very important to the sport
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Post by Browny89a on Nov 2, 2015 16:09:21 GMT 12
Numbers are growing in the upper North Island so no real reason for concern on low numbers considering Auckland has not had their opening meeting yet. Looks like there will about 15ish from Auckland and Huntly combined which is enough to provide quality racing and will be awesome to watch!
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Post by mack55a on Nov 2, 2015 20:31:51 GMT 12
Well said browney, we have quite a few meetings to get through this season and working together is certainly getting us more quality runs without the excessive travel as a lot of us just can't afford the big trips away, looking forward to huntleys big opening meet this weekend. There is a few new drivers coming into the sport and we need to help them and guide them in a really positive way
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Post by methanol99 on Nov 2, 2015 21:06:08 GMT 12
Good to see Huntly help and working with you guys up there hopefully you can keep a good feild of cars going and with some other out if town guys also showing up be good to.
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Post by busterbell on Nov 4, 2015 11:41:27 GMT 12
while some might like to applaud growing numbers it still remains that woodford glen is the only venue that can field enough of their own to stand alone as a class. we haven't had modifieds racing in nelson for a season or two now and i suspect they have been dropped off the programme due to lack of willing travellers. unless the class nationally are willing to put in some commitment to reach tracks not normally racing the class the hub will always remain in a few centres only with little growth elsewhere. why would you be willing to invest in a class not racing at your home track or sporadically as numbers allow?
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Post by The other guy on Nov 4, 2015 14:39:11 GMT 12
Stratford was once a strong track but at the moment they cant put together enough cars to allow the class to race.
Sad but true
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 16:24:21 GMT 12
while some might like to applaud growing numbers it still remains that woodford glen is the only venue that can field enough of their own to stand alone as a class. we haven't had modifieds racing in nelson for a season or two now and i suspect they have been dropped off the programme due to lack of willing travellers. unless the class nationally are willing to put in some commitment to reach tracks not normally racing the class the hub will always remain in a few centres only with little growth elsewhere. why would you be willing to invest in a class not racing at your home track or sporadically as numbers allow? wackky park had a reasonable field on thier own up until last year, the only reason they dont this year is because they havent been able to even open yet. |
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Post by maninstand on Nov 16, 2015 12:10:04 GMT 12
I see Stratford didn't run mods again. I know everyone keeps saying they're fine but they're basically running at 2 tracks per island. Surely people must be getting concerned. I feel the mini sprints might have impacted on the growth of mods
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Post by methanol99 on Nov 16, 2015 12:30:30 GMT 12
I see Stratford didn't run mods again. I know everyone keeps saying they're fine but they're basically running at 2 tracks per island. Surely people must be getting concerned. I feel the mini sprints might have impacted on the growth of mods I read the report in the Taranaki news paper that the Modifieds haven't been able to get over 8 cars to run this year. Are the six shooters making a difference at all its early season but once the number of meetings gets bigger so does the chance of damage to race cars and gear if this mounts will teams/drivers be able to repair and continue or will they only do certain meetings with travel costs also coming into effect. So then we are having even less numbers i guess time will tell |
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Post by tony27 on Nov 16, 2015 13:04:10 GMT 12
Can't see 6 shooters having an effect at Stratford as they don't run them
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Post by The other guy on Nov 16, 2015 16:02:12 GMT 12
I personally cant see 8 mods fronting on a normal night any time soon.
This week will be ok as it is the Taranaki Champs and out of towners will turn up
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Post by NZ Sauber on Nov 16, 2015 17:49:05 GMT 12
I see Stratford didn't run mods again. I know everyone keeps saying they're fine but they're basically running at 2 tracks per island. Surely people must be getting concerned. I feel the mini sprints might have impacted on the growth of mods Stratford is down compared to this point in the season last year, but it is the only Modified track in that position. Which is what always happens a track will have a light year, but somewhere else in the country another track will be having a bonanza year. To put this in perspective by this time last season 5 S mods had appeared (12S, 22S, 31S, 67S, 71S), whereas this season only 3 have appeared (26S, 71S, and 78S). While it is preferable to be up, I don't think a difference of two cars is enough to make a definitive statement with. Generally speaking somewhere between 8-12 S mods will make an appearance during a season. I would assume 12S, 22S, 31S, 67S, and 81S will all appear at some point at the very least, so they should end up somewhere in that range. |
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Post by dalboy97n on Nov 16, 2015 18:27:27 GMT 12
The modified class need to start allowing quad cam jappa motors in,cheap,can get reasonable hp for not a lot of dollars.I believe the class has suffered due to engine rules and that sprintcar engines are not much more to build,hence why the class has a lot of ex mod drivers now.I for one would get one tomorrow if the jappa v8 was allowed
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Post by maninstand on Nov 16, 2015 19:12:29 GMT 12
its alright saying there are these cars around. But where are they?? Unless they start turning up soon I feel the future of them at Stratford is not good. People will travel else where to race with more
Cars etc and where they know that they won't have to rely on others to get a spot in the programme
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Post by Devilracer on Nov 16, 2015 19:35:06 GMT 12
The modified class need to start allowing quad cam jappa motors in,cheap,can get reasonable hp for not a lot of dollars.I believe the class has suffered due to engine rules and that sprintcar engines are not much more to build,hence why the class has a lot of ex mod drivers now.I for one would get one tomorrow if the jappa v8 was allowed I tried to get SNZ to allow me to run a Toyota V8 stright out of a Superstock way back in 2003. Due to it having multiple cams they said no. This is why Mods are outpricing themselves. My new car has a 350 crate motor, same as the Superstocks. |
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Post by The Observer on Nov 16, 2015 20:09:38 GMT 12
The modified class need to start allowing quad cam jappa motors in,cheap,can get reasonable hp for not a lot of dollars.I believe the class has suffered due to engine rules and that sprintcar engines are not much more to build,hence why the class has a lot of ex mod drivers now.I for one would get one tomorrow if the jappa v8 was allowed Hi Dalboy, Interested in hearing where you are getting cheap Japanese v8s that are going to spit out 550hp? I guess running that you may be under powered by 100hp but as they say, you still need to get it too the track. I think the super stock boys might be getting to 500 hp with Nissan and toyotas but they will be spending above 45 k? Probably more like 65k? Is this more reasonable pricing compared to big mod engines? Just trying to understand how your argument stacks up in the real world. I see Wellington had a good field of mods this weekend with visitors from the South Island getting laps in for the Nz title. Junk that could be a very exciting event on that turf |
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Post by dalboy97n on Nov 16, 2015 22:45:36 GMT 12
never said they need to be mega hp,are we not better off having a good field of affordable cars and having fun, than f##k all on track.10 400 plus hp mods on a track gotta be better than 5 would you not agree?hp not everything on dirt,Mark Grocotts small cube super saloon,Ray Jones(I think) rota mod for example. Mods are a semi grass roots class that will dwindle away as its motor rules are stuck in the iron age,hence why the sprintcars have great numbers
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Post by Jamo on Nov 17, 2015 7:40:44 GMT 12
never said they need to be mega hp,are we not better off having a good field of affordable cars and having fun, than f##k all on track.10 400 plus hp mods on a track gotta be better than 5 would you not agree?hp not everything on dirt,Mark Grocotts small cube super saloon,Ray Jones(I think) rota mod for example. Mods are a semi grass roots class that will dwindle away as its motor rules are stuck in the iron age,hence why the sprintcars have great numbers There is already a class for 400hp odd modifieds / sprintcars and they are called 6 shooters. We don't need another one. if you guys want to run in an open wheel class on a small HP engine go race 6 shooters and leave the mods to guys who are reasonably happy about where the class is at. Engine rules have remained stable for years and in talking to most drivers they are pretty happy to leave the rules as is. Not one has grumbled about them to me. If they wanted a change they would have put remits up at conference. This type of talk pops up year after year and to be honest it gets a tad boring. There is enough flexibility in the engine rules to allow guys to have a play if they want. A guy in Christchurch is currently building a mod with a 4 cylinder Porsche engine that he believes will change the face of the class. Time will tell on this I suppose but it does show that there are options for guys other than the stock standard 400 chev option. If guys want to enter the class then they need to play by the rules already set, not look to rewrite the rules to make it easier for them! By the way I think you will find sprintcar numbers have been on the slide for a few years now in the North Island. Purely a sign of the times and numbers in all classes ebb and flow from year to year. |
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Post by Jamo on Nov 17, 2015 7:47:14 GMT 12
The modified class need to start allowing quad cam jappa motors in,cheap,can get reasonable hp for not a lot of dollars.I believe the class has suffered due to engine rules and that sprintcar engines are not much more to build,hence why the class has a lot of ex mod drivers now.I for one would get one tomorrow if the jappa v8 was allowed I tried to get SNZ to allow me to run a Toyota V8 stright out of a Superstock way back in 2003. Due to it having multiple cams they said no. This is why Mods are outpricing themselves. My new car has a 350 crate motor, same as the Superstocks. You have stated this on more than one occasion as well. Can I suggest you put a remit up at the next opportunity and get the drivers etc to vote on it? This way when it gets voted down you can stop blaming SNZ and blame the drivers who throw it out. At least then you will realize that your peers are the ones not interested in this change and hopefully knowing this will allow you to move on and give the topic a rest. If you can't be bothered putting a remit up I would hope that would also mean you will give it a rest as well to be honest! Really up to you. |
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