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Post by Speedway Central (David) on May 26, 2018 21:24:52 GMT 12
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Post by hbhornets on May 26, 2018 22:58:36 GMT 12
Best media j mak has to be up there. Stockcar completitor hayden barker missing. New zealand stockcar champs as best new zealand title really? And the one they dropped the ball on 7 b superstock best presented car. Like dude. The rest on point. What you hoping for?
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Post by Go Slideways on May 27, 2018 14:21:20 GMT 12
Thank you to the person who nominated me, and best wishes to all the finalists in each category. Also big thumbs up to everybody else who got nominated.
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Post by midway on May 27, 2018 17:53:37 GMT 12
Thank you to the person who nominated me, and best wishes to all the finalists in each category. Also big thumbs up to everybody else who got nominated. Would be a no show without punch... |
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Post by Jeffery on May 27, 2018 20:57:15 GMT 12
the one they dropped the ball on 7 b superstock best presented car. Like dude. What category is this and who? |
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Post by petrolfumes on May 28, 2018 5:44:16 GMT 12
Still no transparency : Best Media has 2 of last years finalists again One has been a finalist last 3 years : Time to see how many nominations per categaory |
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Post by Jamo on May 28, 2018 10:21:29 GMT 12
Said it before, will say it again. Event lacks credibility. This years finalists in some categories do nothing more than prove this to be the case, plain and simple. Back patting exercise that does nothing but waste money that would be better used on other things. If you need to nominate yourself to be considered then there seems little point. Obvious omissions in a lot of categories. SNZ want to be taken seriously as a professional organization but continue to shoot themselves in the foot. Do you think the All Blacks need to nominate themselves to be considered as team of the year for the NZRFU awards? Cause not. SNZ panel charged with deciding on winner should be the ones deciding on finalists, if they don't know who to pick or who has done what in the season to be able to make that call then they haven't done their due diligence. It isn't hard to do given modern electronic age. If they don't have the time or interest in doing the research themselves to pick the finalists and winner then they shouldn't have taken on the job. Plain and simple. The whole think reeks of cronyism and simply makes the event and SNZ look like a bunch of amateurs. Go the All Blacks! |
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Post by hienekenno1 on May 28, 2018 10:43:31 GMT 12
Said it before, will say it again. Event lacks credibility. This years finalists in some categories do nothing more than prove this to be the case, plain and simple. Back patting exercise that does nothing but waste money that would be better used on other things. If you need to nominate yourself to be considered then there seems little point. Obvious omissions in a lot of categories. SNZ want to be taken seriously as a professional organization but continue to shoot themselves in the foot. Do you think the All Blacks need to nominate themselves to be considered as team of the year for the NZRFU awards? Cause not. SNZ panel charged with deciding on winner should be the ones deciding on finalists, if they don't know who to pick or who has done what in the season to be able to make that call then they haven't done their due diligence. It isn't hard to do given modern electronic age. If they don't have the time or interest in doing the research themselves to pick the finalists and winner then they shouldn't have taken on the job. Plain and simple. The whole think reeks of cronyism and simply makes the event and SNZ look like a bunch of amateurs. Go the All Blacks! Yea im surprised Foxy isn't in the modified competitor of the year categorie as well lol. |
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Post by Nigel on May 28, 2018 11:00:43 GMT 12
Said it before, will say it again. Event lacks credibility. This years finalists in some categories do nothing more than prove this to be the case, plain and simple. Back patting exercise that does nothing but waste money that would be better used on other things. If you need to nominate yourself to be considered then there seems little point. Obvious omissions in a lot of categories. SNZ want to be taken seriously as a professional organization but continue to shoot themselves in the foot. Do you think the All Blacks need to nominate themselves to be considered as team of the year for the NZRFU awards? Cause not. SNZ panel charged with deciding on winner should be the ones deciding on finalists, if they don't know who to pick or who has done what in the season to be able to make that call then they haven't done their due diligence. It isn't hard to do given modern electronic age. If they don't have the time or interest in doing the research themselves to pick the finalists and winner then they shouldn't have taken on the job. Plain and simple. The whole think reeks of cronyism and simply makes the event and SNZ look like a bunch of amateurs. Go the All Blacks! Couldn't agree more Jamo. The reason some of the most deserving people/drivers, etc... don't get nominated is simply because they are too humble to nominate themselves (How narcissistic is it to be nominating yourself anyway? - FIGJAM) and others don't nominate them because they think someone else will and when they are not on the list, they complain... Go figure??? IMHO, I think what needs to happen is four-fold... 1. SNZ Awards/Trophy Committee and judging panel should be made Public, which would "validate" the awards as being "above board" and judged by people qualified/respected for the task. 2. Awards/Trophy Committee should call for nominations in all categories from each Club's Committee. After all, who know better what someone has done than their own Club... 3. Awards/Trophy Committee should call for nominations in all categories from the Public, as they do now, however you can no longer nominate yourself. This still allows Family, Crew & Fans to nominate their favourites... 4. All nominations should be made Public and then the finalists declared for the Awards ceremony. What say you all? Cheers, Nigel |
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Post by midway on May 28, 2018 11:21:02 GMT 12
It is a lot like Politics at the moment ,Peoples choice ..
The criticism comes thick and fast ,but who is willing enough to crab the bull by the horns and overhaul the present situation ,the Sport has as a governing body ..,with the awards as a side line ..
There seems to be alot of puppets on a string ,but like a gust of wind they seem to blow off till the next opportunity arises ..
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Post by Go Slideways on May 28, 2018 11:52:44 GMT 12
Just to clarify a bit, if you want to enter the photographer of the year section you have to send in 6 photo's that you have taken yourself and then the entries are judged by an independent photographer who isn't involved in speedway. You don't get nominated, you have to enter.
I suppose the track delegates will be taking up their suggestions from their clubs for improvements to the awards at the AGM in general business.
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Post by craige on May 28, 2018 12:12:11 GMT 12
Speedway and politics together no way 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by BarryB on May 28, 2018 17:25:51 GMT 12
Said it before, will say it again. Event lacks credibility. This years finalists in some categories do nothing more than prove this to be the case, plain and simple. Back patting exercise that does nothing but waste money that would be better used on other things. If you need to nominate yourself to be considered then there seems little point. Obvious omissions in a lot of categories. SNZ want to be taken seriously as a professional organization but continue to shoot themselves in the foot. Do you think the All Blacks need to nominate themselves to be considered as team of the year for the NZRFU awards? Cause not. SNZ panel charged with deciding on winner should be the ones deciding on finalists, if they don't know who to pick or who has done what in the season to be able to make that call then they haven't done their due diligence. It isn't hard to do given modern electronic age. If they don't have the time or interest in doing the research themselves to pick the finalists and winner then they shouldn't have taken on the job. Plain and simple. The whole think reeks of cronyism and simply makes the event and SNZ look like a bunch of amateurs. Go the All Blacks! Couldn't agree more Jamo. The reason some of the most deserving people/drivers, etc... don't get nominated is simply because they are too humble to nominate themselves (How narcissistic is it to be nominating yourself anyway? - FIGJAM) and others don't nominate them because they think someone else will and when they are not on the list, they complain... Go figure??? IMHO, I think what needs to happen is four-fold... 1. SNZ Awards/Trophy Committee and judging panel should be made Public, which would "validate" the awards as being "above board" and judged by people qualified/respected for the task. 2. Awards/Trophy Committee should call for nominations in all categories from each Club's Committee. After all, who know better what someone has done than their own Club... 3. Awards/Trophy Committee should call for nominations in all categories from the Public, as they do now, however you can no longer nominate yourself. This still allows Family, Crew & Fans to nominate their favourites... 4. All nominations should be made Public and then the finalists declared for the Awards ceremony. What say you all? Cheers, Nigel What I say Nigel, is that if clubs did what you suggest in your Point 2, without anybody calling for the nominations, that'd take care of the biggest single problem that has bugged the Awards since day one, the nomination process. The only problem is, would all clubs do it, even if called to do so? If certain clubs didn't play ball we'd be exactly where we are now, with potential finalists/winners not even being nominated. The public nomination process will pick up some, but only in certain categories. There are just some categories where they idea won't work at all, but 100% if the clubs got behind it directly it'd be a great thing and much better than now. As for Point 4, I'm sure the nominations have been made public in past years, then later the finalists. Has this not happened this year? Barry B |
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Post by Go Slideways on May 28, 2018 19:57:38 GMT 12
Humphries Racing: "Pretty awesome and thankful to make it as a finalist in two categories at this years Speedway New Zealand awards which is being held on the 16th June! Competitor of the Year for Superstocks- alongside my Panther Team mates Jordan and Jack. This is pretty cool to have us 3 young Panthers as finalists as we have all had massive seasons along with winning the Superstock Teams Champs together! Promotional Apparel Item of the Year- this is also pretty awesome as our merchandise this year was put together/ designed by Ness so that’s a huge achievement for us! We will be there on the 16th June to celebrate the year with everyone, looking forward to it!"  upload picture |
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Post by orapiuwharf on May 28, 2018 21:13:23 GMT 12
Most awards nights with any subject, sport or organisation etc are a load of nonsense and usually in many ways do not reflect complete honest reality. Lets face it who cares. The real winners are the drivers who do well on the race track and those that helped them in any way (sponsors, pit crew, even die hard supporters and others) get their trophies / Titles. They are the real champions.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 23:56:48 GMT 12
I've given my views of the awards over the years and I'm not gunna rehash them, but the 1nz Superstock has been a great champion & ambassador of the sport. |
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Post by chris13w on May 29, 2018 8:55:05 GMT 12
In the interests of openness and transparency, here is the entry that Wellington Speedway put in for Club run track of the year. (No secrets as we've widely shared it on social media already). Wellington have had an exceptional season and we are very happy to have ticked off all our major aims for the season, so no sour grapes over not making it as a finalist, as the three tracks that did get chosen must have had even better seasons, we wouldn't know, but presumably the judging panel do. So here is the entry as we put it forward, in infographic style - crowds up, gate take up, net profit up, club fees halved, clubrooms full, brought in a huge number of new spectators by running a D1 drift series round, Wellington competitors performing strongly, rave reviews for our meetings - we're all very happy to have those success's under our belt, who needs an award as well, just the achievement is enough.  Chris Hadley President Wellington Speedway Society  |
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Post by chris13w on May 29, 2018 9:05:41 GMT 12
Wellington also entered for Innovation of the Year with our Facebook promo "Tag-a-Mate Tuesday", but didn't make the finalists.
Basically at the end of last season we did some crowd surveying and found out that very few spectators had paid any attention at all to the (substantial) amount of radio advertising we had run... So for this season just gone we changed that around, we slashed our radio advertising and instead focused on social media, boosting our posts and increasing our engagements with potential spectators.
Tag-a Mate Tuesday was a key strategy among this, basically you need to go onto Facebook on Tuesday and pick the people you would like to go to the next meeting with, then we choose 10 winners and send out Family passes to them - this literally got us thousands of interactions with potential spectators every week, and started up online conversations about how great the meetings were, how they couldn't be missed, etc, etc.
Did it work? Well, we cut our radio advertising by $20K and increased our gate take by 25%, so its pretty obvious that our bottom line was greatly enhanced, and a lot of it down to innovations like Tag-a-Mate Tuesday.
Interestingly, Kihikihi made the finals for the innovation award with a "ticket giveaway promo", so well done to them, I'm keen to hear about it, as it must have been even better than ours, so maybe we can learn something from them for next season, we're always keen to look at new ideas.
Cheers
Chris Hadley - Wellington Speedway Society
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 10:23:25 GMT 12
Thanks for sharing that Chris. It's interesting to see what goes into a submission for something like this. I've had a bit of feedback from a few ppl miffed at Welly not making the speedway of the year finalists. In fact one reasonably well known speedway person from up the line asked me if Welly were putting in a submission/nomination for club run track of the year. I admitted I didn't know, but assumed so. He said that as long a Te Marua were nominated, it would be a sure thing. I told him I wouldn't be so sure if history of "sure things" not even making the finals was anything to go by...
Anyway well done to all finalists. I hope we get to see some other submissions for comparison.
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Post by Pazza on May 29, 2018 11:30:54 GMT 12
Totally shocked that the Stratford Stormers are not mentioned top3..[yes they were nominated] U carnt win anymore than they did this season & nothing..a bit puzzling
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