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Post by John W. on Jun 16, 2018 14:51:40 GMT 12
An invite to all Saloon or Super Saloon drivers... I have been appointed the class rep for both Saloons and Super Saloons again for the upcoming season. If you are not a current member and are interested in joining ASSCC then please let me know. Email aklsaloons@gmail.com, reply in this thread, private message me here or go to the Waikaraka Saloons and Super Saloons page. Please advise a mobile number so I can txt closer to the season with signup dates etc. In the ASSCC Saloon classes we place having fun higher than winning. We do not tolerate over aggressive racing and threats to others. You can put your self in the wall, but don't put others there. Show respect for the others on the track. As a result we have some good close races, but the races are decided on the track not in the referees box. Let me know if you are interested in joining the club. I believe membership is $100, and we look to have about 25 Saloons and about 14 Super Saloons for next year (9 non BK Series Supers) so should get a few events and provided a good spectacle for your sponsors. Look forward so seeing you all on the dirt... John Whitmore Saloon and Super Saloon Class Rep and ASSCC Exec Committee Member 2018-2019 Season |
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Post by 00crewchief00 on Jun 17, 2018 3:23:05 GMT 12
You know winning is fun rite?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 5:05:16 GMT 12
You know winning is fun rite? He's from Auckland, how would he even know. LOL 😂😂 |
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Post by John W. on Jun 17, 2018 11:26:42 GMT 12
You know winning is fun rite? Yes...winning is fun...but you can also have fun without winning... Keep in mind each race has only 1 winner....but you can have a whole field that enjoys themselves..... |
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Post by magpie on Jun 17, 2018 15:03:52 GMT 12
You know winning is fun rite? Yes...winning is fun...but you can also have fun without winning... Keep in mind each race has only 1 winner....but you can have a whole field that enjoys themselves..... Careful John... you're getting dangerously close to snowflake territory... where there are neither winners nor losers and everyone gets a trophy |
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Post by NZ Sauber on Jun 17, 2018 16:05:48 GMT 12
Waikaraka have a rather unique problem in that they have full fields of Saloons week in week out. I think if everyone drove to the absolute limit this would result in hefty damage bills, but it doesn't as they seem to all follow 'Wheaton's Law'.
Numbers sound good for this season John. Now if only you could entice Cole Morrison back in to a Saloon (had future NZ champion potential).
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Post by John W. on Jun 17, 2018 17:35:53 GMT 12
Waikaraka have a rather unique problem in that they have full fields of Saloons week in week out. I think if everyone drove to the absolute limit this would result if hefty damage bills, but it doesn't as they seem to all follow 'Wheaton's Law'. Numbers sound good for this season John. Now if only you could only entice Cole Morrison back in to a Saloon (had future NZ champion potential). yes...agree....Cole was a driver I liked watching. But there was another rookie to the Saloon class that looked good on that outside line. And yes, due to the size of the fields there simply is no room for idiots on the track for the club nights. Hopefully the practice in the bigger fields will give the A cars a good chance in the NZ champs this season. |
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Post by John W. on Jun 21, 2018 22:08:58 GMT 12
Just to be clear...I never said no one wants to win!!!
The Saloon drivers know it is not worth doing thousands of dollars of damage just to win a club night. As a result we have very little damage and trips up to the referees box and very rarely have cars miss out on races from damage. This then leads to consistent fields though-out the season.
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Post by nakifans on Jun 22, 2018 6:20:16 GMT 12
I hope all class's are as well supported as the saloons and supers.
WP deserve the support of drivers of all grades and spectators as they seem to be the club that has worked tirelessly behind the scene to overcome the debacle of the closure of the stands, working with the council , getting pushbacks as no funding allocated to knock the stands down then promised new stadium and track at present site with both AK tracks using the site.
It appears thru my eyes only, that when the other club realised they wouldn't be the king pin in running the new site they came up with the cunning plan [ like Baldrick] of shifting to Colin Dale and approaching council and selling WP down the drain.
How WP can be run for years with limited seating due to no funds from council to knock down the stands which have been deemed unsafe, yet they have the funds to provide new track and stands for SPL when they slip in the back door with an offer to operate at a site that they have openly turned down over the last 15 yrs.
Hope council remember they promised WP so much, have shafted them now and ever since the stand debacle, so what is WP future.
Now is the time for all grades and fans to show council that WP is alive and well by well attended meetings.
It is guys like John W who will keep the club alive. The club has many John W minded people who work tirelessly behind the scene to keep the club alive.
Hopefully it's future can be decided so money can be spent to spruce the place up and make punters feel like they are appreciated for their attendance.
Sorry John W for drifting off your topic.
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Post by meeaneemic on Jun 22, 2018 8:12:10 GMT 12
You know winning is fun rite? Yes...winning is fun...but you can also have fun without winning... Keep in mind each race has only 1 winner....but you can have a whole field that enjoys themselves..... "Winning isn't everything" is only said by the drivers who just lost. |
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Post by hbhornets on Jun 22, 2018 19:02:47 GMT 12
Yes...winning is fun...but you can also have fun without winning... Keep in mind each race has only 1 winner....but you can have a whole field that enjoys themselves..... "Winning isn't everything" is only said by the drivers who just lost. Well there are two types of people racing the ones who go God racing is so expensive. And the ones who go gees how much fun is racing. Without money you can't win from minustock right up to the top grades. Sadly it's a sport where telant gets you not very far. Mike mac has to be one of the most talented drivers going around butwhen was the last time he took a chequer but he's always got a smile after a race. If you dont look after the social drivers you havnt got a class. |
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Post by John W. on Jun 22, 2018 19:47:07 GMT 12
A bit of food for thought...
The drivers at Waikaraka choose to have me as their rep. Therefore I would assume the majority like the way I run things and the messages I give them. Also, how many other tracks have drivers travelling 3 hours each way just to race club nights? And how many other tracks have drivers going right past another track running the same class to again race on a club night.
The fact is we are a growing class(es). If the drivers choose for me not to be their rep, and have someone else ready to take over, then I am happy to stand aside. There are plenty of other tasks that I can do. But until that happens I will keep pushing the respect and fun messages as that is the policy I have always had.
In saying that - a message to the drivers - don't worry, I am not planning on dropping the reping role unless the majority of you want that.
And a message to the spectators - sorry - but my first priority is to the drivers as without them you have nothing to watch. In saying that I do believe we need spectators and will work to keep you informed and know when events are happening, and will strive to put on the best racing whilst keeping the drivers happy (and enjoying themselves!!!).
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Post by orapiuwharf on Jun 22, 2018 20:40:44 GMT 12
John W keep it up. Every one is important. Drivers, pit crew, sponsors, flag marshals all volunteers of every type, Spectators in the grandstand along with those making the hot-dogs and chips. Without everyone we have nothing.
Everyone is a component of making it all happen.
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Post by magpie on Jun 22, 2018 21:17:39 GMT 12
A bit of food for thought... The drivers at Waikaraka choose to have me as their rep. Therefore I would assume the majority like the way I run things and the messages I give them. Also, how many other tracks have drivers travelling 3 hours each way just to race club nights? And how many other tracks have drivers going right past another track running the same class to again race on a club night. The fact is we are a growing class(es). If the drivers choose for me not to be their rep, and have someone else ready to take over, then I am happy to stand aside. There are plenty of other tasks that I can do. But until that happens I will keep pushing the respect and fun messages as that is the policy I have always had. In saying that - a message to the drivers - don't worry, I am not planning on dropping the reping role unless the majority of you want that. And a message to the spectators - sorry - but my first priority is to the drivers as without them you have nothing to watch. In saying that I do believe we need spectators and will work to keep you informed and know when events are happening, and will strive to put on the best racing whilst keeping the drivers happy (and enjoying themselves!!!). The day the Saloon and Super Saloon drivers at Waikaraka don't want you as their rep John, will be the day we know they've all undergone frontal lobotomies. Working with Saloon Speedweek and Pro Dirt I've been to most tracks and if there's a class rep that works any harder than you do for the drivers or assists staff of travelling series the way you do I very much doubt they've been born yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 16:34:14 GMT 12
Good Job John..credit where credits due.
Now what can you do to ramp up the intensity a bit..is there anything on the line for these racers?
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Post by John W. on Aug 3, 2018 19:30:42 GMT 12
Hello all....signup for ASSCC (Waikaraka Park) is 22nd August. Come along, meet the committee and some of the other copmpetitors.
Full Membership is $100 and social memberships $10 for the rest of your crew and family (so they can access the bar during racing and afterwards - without you having to sign them in as visitors).
Why should you join ASSCC?
- we look like we will have 24+ Saloons competitors and 10+ Super Saloons this year. It is unlikely non members will get to race most meetings this year in the Saloon class.
- promoter is reliable paying out prize money
- Great group of drivers
- Experienced Rep will keep you up to date leading up to meetings and on the night
- Low tyre wear track (depending on how you race)
- Membership fees are some of the lowest in the country
P.M me if you want further information
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Post by maw63 on Aug 5, 2018 17:46:29 GMT 12
John W
The comments facts you are stating as to why you shoukd join Waikarakia park are absurb.when you say if you don't join club you won't be able to race there.I would have to say that is holding drivers to ransom,surely the committee don't agree to this type of information,I would have thought that the promotion would welcome any car that wanted to race at waikarakia.you are only the class rep so how can you make a comment about tyre wear,this involves many things,car setup,track surface amount of moisture,othe types of classes racing,weather and air temperature.
Never saw 20 plus cars from club racing on the same night at your track?
I been involved in racing for 15 plus years and a public watching for 40 odd.
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Post by hienekenno1 on Aug 5, 2018 18:11:36 GMT 12
I agree with you maw63,I for one as a spectator don't want to see the same saloons and supers every sat night, I want to see visitors able to turn up and spice things up a bit and I do hope it will still happen at Waikaraka.
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Post by John W. on Aug 5, 2018 21:16:16 GMT 12
John W The comments facts you are stating as to why you shoukd join Waikarakia park are absurb.when you say if you don't join club you won't be able to race there.I would have to say that is holding drivers to ransom,surely the committee don't agree to this type of information,I would have thought that the promotion would welcome any car that wanted to race at waikarakia.you are only the class rep so how can you make a comment about tyre wear,this involves many things,car setup,track surface amount of moisture,othe types of classes racing,weather and air temperature. Never saw 20 plus cars from club racing on the same night at your track? I been involved in racing for 15 plus years and a public watching for 40 odd. The fact is it looks like we will have 25 Saloons joining as members of ASSCC and wanting to race most nights. I am sure most "experts" will agree 24 is the maximum number of Saloons you can run on the track at one time. Priority will be given to ASSCC members to enter. If there are spaces left then other competitors from other tracks will be able to run - but with at least 25 ASSCC members this will be very limited. Last season there were 2 occasions when we had 15 ASSCC members all running - this season there are a lot more drivers and cars that look like they will be ready at the start of the season. As for tyre wear - yes, setup can affect that. But also the type of clay has a big impact. And the clay at Waikaraka is looking to be very similar to last year. As a spectator for 40 years, I hope you get a chance to come and watch the Saloons at Waikaraka - they should make a great spectacle. FYI - Super Saloon numbers look to be about 12 - so there will be plenty of opportunity for other track members to run. It is only the Saloons that will potentially have restrictions in place. I am sure you would agree ASSCC members should have first option to race at their own track. There is also nothing stopping competitors contracted to other tracks from becoming a member of 2 clubs. |
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Post by John W. on Aug 5, 2018 21:27:24 GMT 12
I agree with you maw63,I for one as a spectator don't want to see the same saloons and supers every sat night, I want to see visitors able to turn up and spice things up a bit and I do hope it will still happen at Waikaraka. I have not ruled out non members completely. But priority will be given to ASSCC members and if all 24 ASSCC Saloons want to race then this will mean other cars cannot run unless the promoter allows 5-6 events for Saloons on the night (and there is room in the pits). I am hopeful we will be able to get some other Saloons coming to visit. But I do believe this will be limited (maybe 5 cars per night). I agree it would be nice to have no limit on cars, but due to the unexpected move of WS to Colin Dale and lack of council spending at Waikaraka, we are still limited to about 100 parks in the pits. There are some plans which might help this a bit - but there will always be limits to how many cars can race due to pit spaces and program length (more than 24 Saloons requires 5-6 events to provide a good show and have a worthy podium). |
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