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Post by Graeme Mead on Jan 5, 2019 21:11:23 GMT 12
I am sitting at home getting more and more frustrated with the lack of finishing order being given out at the end of each heat of the finals.
There's 3 joblin 3 Rees 2 leviens and we get one to two names as they crossed the line.
No points given out before the next heat and it makes it a hard frustrating watch.
I was taught by barry b mal and Paul Hickey that it is imperative that you give finishing order once the cars slow down. You repeat it lots and that is what the crowd on site need and even more so us at home.
It's the basic of championship commentary.
Sorry but this is frustrating me and probably many others. I don't enjoy doing this as I know how tough the commentary role is but really.... I expect more as a watching punter.
This is the international showcase of stockcars...
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Post by tiroto on Jan 5, 2019 21:53:01 GMT 12
We're told down here at WG to "sit closer to the speaker" or even better "go buy a radio" Careful GM you might be called a moaner!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 22:20:06 GMT 12
camera work was better first night in my opinion
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Post by Graeme Mead on Jan 5, 2019 22:24:17 GMT 12
We're told down here at WG to "sit closer to the speaker" or even better "go buy a radio" Careful GM you might be called a moaner! No point sitting under a speaker or getting a radio if the information isn't there. On the Wade rollover they said the points are close but we're not going to tell you. The drivers won't be listening |
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Post by sk72 on Jan 5, 2019 22:26:47 GMT 12
We're told down here at WG to "sit closer to the speaker" or even better "go buy a radio" Careful GM you might be called a moaner! No point sitting under a speaker or getting a radio if the information isn't there. On the Wade rollover they said the points are close but we're not going to tell you. The drivers won't be listening I also heard that on the stream. Weird! Like the points are a secret!! It will be interesting to see if when they air this meeting on Pits TV if we see any action. Definitly missed a lot tonight. But I must say, its a great quality with only needing to buffer twice for a couple of seconds. |
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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2019 22:30:36 GMT 12
We're told down here at WG to "sit closer to the speaker" or even better "go buy a radio" Careful GM you might be called a moaner! No point sitting under a speaker or getting a radio if the information isn't there. On the Wade rollover they said the points are close but we're not going to tell you. The drivers won't be listening That would be the quote of the night, be funny if it wasn't so frustrating. Almost the whole commentary has been like listening to a couple of guys talking to each other rather than projecting to the customers. |
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Post by Shai-tan on Jan 5, 2019 22:33:43 GMT 12
The way I seen it was that they only had the ELS from the previous lap. They seemed confused with car positions during that stoppage. Happy to be corrected but I doubt they had enough information to call points positions on that red light.
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Post by Graeme Mead on Jan 5, 2019 22:36:00 GMT 12
The way I seen it was that they only had the ELS from the previous lap. They seemed confused with car positions during that stoppage. Happy to be corrected but I doubt they had enough information to call points positions on that red light. ELS has all that on the screen. Has done for every meeting I call. They said they had the points... |
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Post by Shai-tan on Jan 5, 2019 22:38:12 GMT 12
The way I seen it was that they only had the ELS from the previous lap. They seemed confused with car positions during that stoppage. Happy to be corrected but I doubt they had enough information to call points positions on that red light. ELS has all that on the screen. Has done for every meeting I call. ELS doesn't show current track position, just last past the post. Didn't hear the points thing though. Strange |
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Post by petrolhead 17 on Jan 5, 2019 22:44:46 GMT 12
I found the comments about finishing so late ridiculous probably shouldn't be laughing about the fact your track has a history of nz champs finishing near or after midnight.
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Post by BarryB on Jan 5, 2019 22:45:32 GMT 12
ELS has all that on the screen. Has done for every meeting I call. ELS doesn't show current track position, just last past the post. Didn't hear the points thing though. Strange You can also look out the commentary box window under a red and see which contenders have crossed the start/finish line and which ones haven't, if there is any confusion. Barry B |
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Post by Graeme Mead on Jan 5, 2019 22:46:17 GMT 12
ELS has all that on the screen. Has done for every meeting I call. ELS doesn't show current track position, just last past the post. Didn't hear the points thing though. Strange ELS shows accumulated points. Laps completed. Current position and lap times. I've never seen one that doesn't and I've been to a few tracks commentating in 20 years |
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Post by speedsinestv on Jan 5, 2019 22:46:31 GMT 12
Yes it does. With an updated current live points standing. If it doesn't,they have a problem. Anyways, I'm off to get a life. Apparently I need one. Good chance I'll find it at the super galoons next weekend.
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Post by BarryB on Jan 5, 2019 22:48:43 GMT 12
Speaking of commentary bloopers Mal, what's a Super Galoon?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 22:50:54 GMT 12
No point sitting under a speaker or getting a radio if the information isn't there. On the Wade rollover they said the points are close but we're not going to tell you. The drivers won't be listening That would be the quote of the night, be funny if it wasn't so frustrating. Almost the whole commentary has been like listening to a couple of guys talking to each other rather than projecting to the customers. Comentary on night one I thought was very good, likewise camera work, the better of the two nights..what changed? |
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Post by speedsinestv on Jan 5, 2019 23:01:41 GMT 12
Barry that's our nick name for them, for all the crazy stuff that goes on. Such as Edwards v Emmerson. Not a typo. (saloons meets goons) now em
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Post by hbhornets on Jan 5, 2019 23:03:12 GMT 12
Was listening in at home. And found it entertaining and enjoyable. While watching the cricket. Easy to follow. They did read points. Only thing I will say is next time. Read the points as per 9 number order. Not as they finished that race. Other than that I felt like I knew where everybody was on track. Without even needing pictures to look at. I really dont see the issue. Isn't that what commentary about. Closing your eyes and being able to see it unfold. and I was able to do that. Would of brought the stream but dont have a Visa debit card.
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Post by tiroto on Jan 5, 2019 23:26:47 GMT 12
All depends what you believe separates a good meeting from a mediocre meeting = a good speedway club from a mediocre club.
I guess I've been so "spoilt" spending my speedway upbringing at Paradise Valley and the privilege of listening to the best trio: Paul H, Barry B and Mintie - in action at the 240's!
Why do they get 9000 people there regularly? Because it's an experience! The club knows what works for customers and the commentary team is a major part of it.
The Woodford Glen commentary team in my opinion is mediocre - a bunch of amateurs who are unwilling to learn from others!
Go to Rotorua during the 240's in a couple of weeks time and go learn how a professional commentary team works all the while trying to process 110 plus superstocks!
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Post by BarryB on Jan 5, 2019 23:42:28 GMT 12
Barry that's our nick name for them, for all the crazy stuff that goes on. Such as Edwards v Emmerson. Not a typo. (saloons meets goons) now em I'll wait to hear you calling them that next time you're calling the class then Mal. Barry B |
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Post by tank11 on Jan 6, 2019 8:07:03 GMT 12
Barry that's our nick name for them, for all the crazy stuff that goes on. Such as Edwards v Emmerson. Not a typo. (saloons meets goons) now em I'll wait to hear you calling them that next time you're calling the class then Mal. Barry B Well he's right with the saloons starting with a "G". Seems the Cook brothers have a strangle hold. Ethan now 1NZ and GP Dan 1NI |
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