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Post by sonic33 on Feb 12, 2021 20:41:53 GMT 12
Seen a few posts on FB wondering what equats a team and who is ligit.
I am a fan of get a team together and front up. However this meet has SNZ rules.
What are the rules and how much in advance of the event do you have to register to your track of choice. If it is 2 weeks out then that seems poor.
I am more for a rule change re eligibilty rather than lack of teams.
Huge Gizzy fan, but the fb posts seem to be in relation to the Gizzy team.
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Post by tony27 on Feb 12, 2021 20:48:50 GMT 12
Surely to not be considered a ring in a competitor needs to have registered to the track for the majority of the season
Who are drivers named for gizzy as this seems to be who the questions are about?
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Post by Macclad on Feb 12, 2021 21:01:03 GMT 12
As a fan, I would rather see as many teams as possible racing.
I couldn't care less what track the drivers are contracted to.
As a Wellington supporter, if the Young Guns had to ring-in a couple of drivers from say, Palmy,
I wouldn't care.
It's like Super rugby, you are supporting your team, the jersey, regardless of where the actual players come from.
Maybe we do need to look at franchising superstock/stockcar teams.
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Post by sonic33 on Feb 12, 2021 21:08:34 GMT 12
Surely to not be considered a ring in a competitor needs to have registered to the track for the majority of the season Who are drivers named for gizzy as this seems to be who the questions are about? 8g Bruce Harding 15g Michael Smith 43g Quentin Hammond 54g Nigel Hazelton 67g Jason Lovell Out of touch with Gizzy drivers, but know for fact Bruce and Jason are genuine G cars. |
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Post by beachboy on Feb 12, 2021 21:10:35 GMT 12
Seen a few posts on FB wondering what equats a team and who is ligit. I am a fan of get a team together and front up. However this meet has SNZ rules. What are the rules and how much in advance of the event do you have to register to your track of choice. If it is 2 weeks out then that seems poor. I am more for a rule change re eligibilty rather than lack of teams. Huge Gizzy fan, but the fb posts seem to be in relation to the Gizzy team. you are unhappy if drivers only need to be registered to a track of choice 2 weeks out from the event but you are happy for just "get a team together and front up".  lol |
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Post by tony27 on Feb 12, 2021 21:16:06 GMT 12
Ok, 43g is definitely a ring in, last raced as 43p at the NZs. Not sure Palmy has had a normal meeting since then
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Post by beachboy on Feb 12, 2021 21:16:30 GMT 12
As a fan, I would rather see as many teams as possible racing. I couldn't care less what track the drivers are contracted to. As a Wellington supporter, if the Young Guns had to ring-in a couple of drivers from say, Palmy, I wouldn't care. It's like Super rugby, you are supporting your team, the jersey, regardless of where the actual players come from. Maybe we do need to look at franchising superstock/stockcar teams. ? It's not like Super Rugby at all, players don't swap between clubs/teams during the season or even before a big game. lol |
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Post by sonic33 on Feb 12, 2021 21:26:12 GMT 12
Seen a few posts on FB wondering what equats a team and who is ligit. I am a fan of get a team together and front up. However this meet has SNZ rules. What are the rules and how much in advance of the event do you have to register to your track of choice. If it is 2 weeks out then that seems poor. I am more for a rule change re eligibilty rather than lack of teams. Huge Gizzy fan, but the fb posts seem to be in relation to the Gizzy team. you are unhappy if drivers only need to be registered to a track of choice 2 weeks out from the event but you are happy for just "get a team together and front up". lol Nope. More than happy for teams to front up regardless of where they are from. Concerned re SNZ rules conflicting that as this is an SNZ championship meet. To be fair I would love a teams event that has no regional representation and be a group of mates. Also a meet that has more than one team on the track as in 4 teams of triples etc, But what do I know! |
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 12, 2021 22:08:20 GMT 12
Surely to not be considered a ring in a competitor needs to have registered to the track for the majority of the season Who are drivers named for gizzy as this seems to be who the questions are about? 8g Bruce Harding 15g Michael Smith 43g Quentin Hammond 54g Nigel Hazelton 67g Jason Lovell Out of touch with Gizzy drivers, but know for fact Bruce and Jason are genuine G cars. 8g 15b 43p 54k 67g Well i see why thats blowing up. I was always against this rule. Problem was at rotura 2015 christchurch showed up with a NEW ZEALAND select team and were disqualified afyer beating wellington in the semi. What the prospect of the title heading south to a select team the northren tracks banded together to cap unregistered drivers. Back then it was teams of 6. 5 raced. Rotorua had 4 racing. Two reserve. Auckland in 2018 made it teams of 5. Complaining about pit space. But with 11 teams. Couldnt have 6 car teams. Believe that Christchurch consisted of: 56c brad 91w klye lane 510p jay knight. Plus 3 more. Think only 1 was from christchurch from memory. Tyler walker wasnt allow to compete after not being selected by Stratford again from memory. Sure he will correct that. Rotorua brought the rule to the table arguing for 2 bring ins. However other tracks wanted one. And thats where its stayed. The down side of these rules has seen the fall of many teams and number of cars in each team around the country. Tasman, kihi kihi, tasman, blenheim, baypark is in and out. And now gissy. Its not working. And needs a serious look at if this has been a positive change for the sport and teams racing in general. *not everything i said maybe correct. |
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Post by sonic33 on Feb 12, 2021 22:19:47 GMT 12
So change is needed at that meeting they have every now and then? Whats that called?
Every team that fronts needs to be there and within the criteria.
Would much rather see the criteria relaxed.
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Post by hbhornets on Feb 12, 2021 22:26:48 GMT 12
So change is needed at that meeting they have every now and then? Whats that called? Every team that fronts needs to be there and within the criteria. Would much rather see the criteria relaxed. Remits at the agm. Not sure anyone will bring it to the table. |
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Post by beachboy on Feb 13, 2021 12:33:41 GMT 12
you are unhappy if drivers only need to be registered to a track of choice 2 weeks out from the event but you are happy for just "get a team together and front up". lol Nope. More than happy for teams to front up regardless of where they are from. Concerned re SNZ rules conflicting that as this is an SNZ championship meet. To be fair I would love a teams event that has no regional representation and be a group of mates. Also a meet that has more than one team on the track as in 4 teams of triples etc, But what do I know! there are other teams events that have relaxed rules with regards to who can make up a team these events don't always get the big numbers both in terms of drivers and spectators. The NZ stockcar teams champs is a SNZ title and has a large following because of the rules and format set in place. Why fix it if it isn't broke. No body is stoping you or anyone else from starting up there own event with its on format, go nuts if you think it's the way to go. |
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Post by Tony on Feb 16, 2021 17:37:54 GMT 12
A late change to the Young Guns; 89W Dale Robertson is on a 22-day medical stand-down, so Jayden Ward has been drafted in to drive his car. That's bound to open up a whole new line of debate. Are Wellington's Stockcar numbers so thin they have to bring in an outsider? Watch this space.
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Post by beachboy on Feb 16, 2021 18:10:33 GMT 12
A late change to the Young Guns; 89W Dale Robertson is on a 22-day medical stand-down, so Jayden Ward has been drafted in to drive his car. That's bound to open up a whole new line of debate. Are Wellington's Stockcar numbers so thin they have to bring in an outsider? Watch this space. no debate as the rules clearly state you are able to have 1 ring in per team, having more rules regulating this rule-based on numbers registered to your club would just bring in more bureaucracy which the sport and also this event doesn't need Tony |
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Post by Macclad on Feb 16, 2021 18:25:16 GMT 12
A late change to the Young Guns; 89W Dale Robertson is on a 22-day medical stand-down, so Jayden Ward has been drafted in to drive his car. That's bound to open up a whole new line of debate. Are Wellington's Stockcar numbers so thin they have to bring in an outsider? Watch this space. ....or....did they draft in a more experienced teams racer to better help them defend their title?? As I've said before, I don't care who the driver is or where they are from, if there is a "W" on the side then he/she is part of my team. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2021 18:40:39 GMT 12
A late change to the Young Guns; 89W Dale Robertson is on a 22-day medical stand-down, so Jayden Ward has been drafted in to drive his car. That's bound to open up a whole new line of debate. Are Wellington's Stockcar numbers so thin they have to bring in an outsider? Watch this space. ....or....did they draft in a more experienced teams racer to better help them defend their title?? ....or... Did they extend the hand of friendship and decide to make all of JWs dreams come true? 🤣🤣 |
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Post by Tony on Feb 16, 2021 20:54:27 GMT 12
A late change to the Young Guns; 89W Dale Robertson is on a 22-day medical stand-down, so Jayden Ward has been drafted in to drive his car. That's bound to open up a whole new line of debate. Are Wellington's Stockcar numbers so thin they have to bring in an outsider? Watch this space. ....or....did they draft in a more experienced teams racer to better help them defend their title?? As I've said before, I don't care who the driver is or where they are from, if there is a "W" on the side then he/she is part of my team. Oh, without doubt they've made this decision in the best interests of the team's chances of winning, and you can't fault them for that. It's similar to the situation Wanganui had at Superstock teams last year where a visiting driver was selected ahead of locally contracted drivers. I gather the club has now changed its policy so that local drivers get first dibs if available. It's certainly a team with massive teams racing experience now. Anyway, depending what decision the Government makes tomorrow about Alert Levels, it may all be academic. Under Level 2, they simply can't run the meeting, not with 60 drivers, 12 sixth drivers, officials, staff, volunteers etc. You're probably looking at close to 200 people on site before you throw the gates open to the public. |
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