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Post by hbhornets on Mar 24, 2023 16:01:41 GMT 12
3 Groups of 17, 1 with 18 = 69 starters, perhaps 3 Groups of 23 would suffice??? Unlike the new zealand superstocks where it was criminal for huntly to even try run 6 groups. Here I don't mind it. One they had to many for 3 car groups when draw was done. And second the type of title it is. You don't mind smaller fields with more groups on quilfying night. I hope stratford have a plan b as they will only get two groups on night two so could be a class or two short. |
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Post by BarryB on Mar 24, 2023 16:53:02 GMT 12
3 Groups of 17, 1 with 18 = 69 starters, perhaps 3 Groups of 23 would suffice??? Unlike the new zealand superstocks where it was criminal for huntly to even try run 6 groups. Here I don't mind it. One they had to many for 3 car groups when draw was done. And second the type of title it is. You don't mind smaller fields with more groups on quilfying night. I hope stratford have a plan b as they will only get two groups on night two so could be a class or two short. Your logic is so ummm, illogical. Huntly still had more cars per group on track for "Take 2" (even though the total entry was slightly less than "Take 1" of the title, which was rained off) than Stratford has, based on their website 24 hours out from the event (where there could still be more withdrawals). Yet it was "criminal" for Huntly to run that number, yet it's okay for Stratford to run less cars per race? Why is that? I think Stratford had 79 entries when they did the draw. That's only one more car than 3 groups of 26 - and there are ALWAYS withdrawals. If Huntly should have gone to five groups, then surely Stratford should have gone to three groups using the very same logic? "The type of title it is?" What difference does that make? "You doin't mind smaller fields with more groups on qualifying night?" Who is this "You" that doesn't mind? Barry B |
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Post by hbhornets on Mar 24, 2023 17:27:06 GMT 12
Unlike the new zealand superstocks where it was criminal for huntly to even try run 6 groups. Here I don't mind it. One they had to many for 3 car groups when draw was done. And second the type of title it is. You don't mind smaller fields with more groups on quilfying night. I hope stratford have a plan b as they will only get two groups on night two so could be a class or two short. Your logic is so ummm, illogical. Huntly still had more cars per group on track for "Take 2" (even though the total entry was slightly less than "Take 1" of the title, which was rained off) than Stratford has, based on their website 24 hours out from the event (where there could still be more withdrawals). Yet it was "criminal" for Huntly to run that number, yet it's okay for Stratford to run less cars per race? Why is that? I think Stratford had 79 entries when they did the draw. That's only one more car than 3 groups of 26 - and there are ALWAYS withdrawals. If Huntly should have gone to five groups, then surely Stratford should have gone to three groups using the very same logic? "The type of title it is?" What difference does that make? "You doin't mind smaller fields with more groups on qualifying night?" Who is this "You" that doesn't mind? Barry B New zealand Champs should be the very top principle event for individuals to aim for. And should get treated as such in my mind. I mean the 40 plus drivers who didn't enter the north islands but did the new zealands seem to also agree with me. you should be racing as full to full fields at a n.z title. Less is more for a fan and the show. At a lesser title like the north islands I really don't mind seeing mid to late teen number of cars on track. As this represents the fact its not as meaningful to fans and drivers alike. But under 20 superstocks for a n.z on track sounds like i wasnt the only punter disappionted by huntlys decision to run 6 groups the way it eventually played out. Not sure why you brought up take 1. As it never happen and is a big what could of been not what was. |
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Post by 1986driver on Mar 24, 2023 18:39:10 GMT 12
Hb are you ever happy with anything in regards superstocks?  Stop complaining and go get a car to drive or get on the board and help and run the class how you want it run |
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Post by BarryB on Mar 24, 2023 18:53:21 GMT 12
Nobody would disagree with you that any New Zealand title is the pinnacle of the sport in each individual class. Always has been, always will be. That is what the finals are all about, not necessarily qualifying (in my opinion anyway).
I mentioned Take 1 because the meeting structure was formed around the entry for the first attempt with 6 groups named after six legends of Waikato Stockcar/Superstock scene. Early indications were that Take 2 would attract an entry list of the same sort of quantities, with a number of SI'ers indicating that while they weren't on the list the first time they would be the second time around. Then the ferries started causing problems and a cyclone devastated parts of New Zealand. The exact final numbers for Huntly (which are never known until the day of the event) means five groups would have worked better than six, yes, as would three groups worked better than four at Stratford. But re-drawing groups on the day of the event is not really the way to approach things, for a variety of reasons. I hope Stratford aren't down to 12-13 car grids by heat 3 tonight.
Barry B
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Post by youngone on Mar 24, 2023 19:02:47 GMT 12
Any results?
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Post by hienekenno1 on Mar 24, 2023 19:25:28 GMT 12
Asher Rees has won both his heats so far.Not alot of Action so far,a little bit of accidental crashes but nothing on purpose 🙂
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Post by hienekenno1 on Mar 24, 2023 19:51:02 GMT 12
89g Tyler James just put 172p Daniel Bermiester into the wall hard on purpose 👏
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Post by wildcatsfan on Mar 24, 2023 21:21:41 GMT 12
Your 22/2023 Five Star Liquor North Island Superstock Champs top 24 drivers that have qualified for tomorrow nights finals at Stratford Speedway!
1NZK Asher Rees
2NZG Josh Prentice
3NZG Ethan Rees
9G Jamie Hamilton
10G Peter Rees
25S Wayne Moss
28S Blair Uhlenberg
29G James Clarke
41P Scott Williams
52P Scott Joblin
54S Paul Johnston
58K Stefan Roigard
72S Bevan Phillips
77G Sam Hughes
78V Mark Johnston
82S Hamish Booker
85S Brad Uhlenberg
99S Blayke Adamson
147K Matt Nielson
229S Kylee Symes
235G Regan Penn
321W Tim Parker
581P Jordon Dare
591P Wayne Hemi
Two more drivers will come through from the repercharge race tomorrow night to make a 26 car finals field.
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Post by hbhornets on Mar 24, 2023 21:35:31 GMT 12
Nobody would disagree with you that any New Zealand title is the pinnacle of the sport in each individual class. Always has been, always will be. That is what the finals are all about, not necessarily qualifying (in my opinion anyway). I mentioned Take 1 because the meeting structure was formed around the entry for the first attempt with 6 groups named after six legends of Waikato Stockcar/Superstock scene. Early indications were that Take 2 would attract an entry list of the same sort of quantities, with a number of SI'ers indicating that while they weren't on the list the first time they would be the second time around. Then the ferries started causing problems and a cyclone devastated parts of New Zealand. The exact final numbers for Huntly (which are never known until the day of the event) means five groups would have worked better than six, yes, as would three groups worked better than four at Stratford. But re-drawing groups on the day of the event is not really the way to approach things, for a variety of reasons. I hope Stratford aren't down to 12-13 car grids by heat 3 tonight. Barry B Palmy went from 130 superstocks down to 115. So when huntly got 131 they should have realized then the final number would of been around the 115 mark. We may never see eye to eye. But I do believe for greater speedway viewing experience fuller fields for quilfying night is what I value as a fan. |
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Post by nakifans on Mar 24, 2023 23:27:54 GMT 12
By my Naki maths 33% of the qualifier's have an S besides their number plus 2 P cars from the next town
Hope the metservice forecast showers don't arrive.
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Post by craige on Mar 25, 2023 7:37:50 GMT 12
Nobody would disagree with you that any New Zealand title is the pinnacle of the sport in each individual class. Always has been, always will be. That is what the finals are all about, not necessarily qualifying (in my opinion anyway). I mentioned Take 1 because the meeting structure was formed around the entry for the first attempt with 6 groups named after six legends of Waikato Stockcar/Superstock scene. Early indications were that Take 2 would attract an entry list of the same sort of quantities, with a number of SI'ers indicating that while they weren't on the list the first time they would be the second time around. Then the ferries started causing problems and a cyclone devastated parts of New Zealand. The exact final numbers for Huntly (which are never known until the day of the event) means five groups would have worked better than six, yes, as would three groups worked better than four at Stratford. But re-drawing groups on the day of the event is not really the way to approach things, for a variety of reasons. I hope Stratford aren't down to 12-13 car grids by heat 3 tonight. Barry B Palmy went from 130 superstocks down to 115. So when huntly got 131 they should have realized then the final number would of been around the 115 mark. We may never see eye to eye. But I do believe for greater speedway viewing experience fuller fields for quilfying night is what I value as a fan. how about you be the next bruce Robertson and promote a few tracks then you can run what ever format you want...f$%k you always whinging on here and got the biggest expert opinion . |
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Post by tank11 on Mar 25, 2023 7:55:19 GMT 12
Nobody would disagree with you that any New Zealand title is the pinnacle of the sport in each individual class. Always has been, always will be. That is what the finals are all about, not necessarily qualifying (in my opinion anyway). I mentioned Take 1 because the meeting structure was formed around the entry for the first attempt with 6 groups named after six legends of Waikato Stockcar/Superstock scene. Early indications were that Take 2 would attract an entry list of the same sort of quantities, with a number of SI'ers indicating that while they weren't on the list the first time they would be the second time around. Then the ferries started causing problems and a cyclone devastated parts of New Zealand. The exact final numbers for Huntly (which are never known until the day of the event) means five groups would have worked better than six, yes, as would three groups worked better than four at Stratford. But re-drawing groups on the day of the event is not really the way to approach things, for a variety of reasons. I hope Stratford aren't down to 12-13 car grids by heat 3 tonight. Barry B Palmy went from 130 superstocks down to 115. So when huntly got 131 they should have realized then the final number would of been around the 115 mark. We may never see eye to eye. But I do believe for greater speedway viewing experience fuller fields for quilfying night is what I value as a fan. Yep, let's change the format for the opinion of ONE fan! |
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Post by tank11 on Mar 25, 2023 7:57:44 GMT 12
By my Naki maths 33% of the qualifier's have an S besides their number plus 2 P cars from the next town Hope the metservice forecast showers don't arrive. So it's going to be a S/P v G/K teams race? |
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Post by hienekenno1 on Mar 25, 2023 8:22:02 GMT 12
I see the results tonight will be the same as the NZ Championship but man do I hope I'm wrong 🤞🙂
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Post by Macclad on Mar 25, 2023 11:06:04 GMT 12
So it's going to be a S/P v G/K teams race? Lets hope so, last night was pretty much just a procession of Superstocks. I understand why being qualifying, not complaining but let's hope tonight we see some more bumpers being used. |
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Post by grindingdisc on Mar 25, 2023 11:14:02 GMT 12
Palmy went from 130 superstocks down to 115. So when huntly got 131 they should have realized then the final number would of been around the 115 mark. We may never see eye to eye. But I do believe for greater speedway viewing experience fuller fields for quilfying night is what I value as a fan. Yep, let's change the format for the opinion of ONE fan! Not hard to change a format, same ones that support the low car number group formats will probaly complain about there being no action 🤣 full fields = action and happy fans Small fields = follow the leader & bored fans and makes it way harder for drivers to qualify when theres more groups than needed one spin and ya done and casual fans dont rush back when they see un eventful racing |
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Post by hienekenno1 on Mar 25, 2023 11:38:54 GMT 12
Even though the racing wasn't mind blowing last night it was nice to get out of Auckland and be at Stratford Speedway,yes if I lived down this way I would of definitely only gone to finals night because of entry list, hopefully some good action tonight 🤞🙂
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Post by hbhornets on Mar 25, 2023 12:39:32 GMT 12
Palmy went from 130 superstocks down to 115. So when huntly got 131 they should have realized then the final number would of been around the 115 mark. We may never see eye to eye. But I do believe for greater speedway viewing experience fuller fields for quilfying night is what I value as a fan. Yep, let's change the format for the opinion of ONE fan! Am I one fan or do I represent a greater silent crowd? I guess I am one fan with an opinion here. |
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Post by interestedbystander on Mar 25, 2023 14:04:51 GMT 12
Cars are turning laps in the 17 seconds range, there's not much time for mucking round if you want to qualify, slow down and your at the back real quick it seems from watching last night
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Stop complaining and go get a car to drive or get on the board and help and run the class how you want it run
