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Post by Palmyfan4ever on Jan 13, 2024 11:02:39 GMT 12
Have to commend Stratford, getting that done in the time frame they did, But the update of points was deplorable, while lining up on grid they had time to give each grid number, more appropiate would have been points, to me grids don,t matter if you don,t know where drivers are on points. They gave the points of the top 3 over all after each heat while cars were still circulating, couldn,t here a god dam thing. As for flat tire rule, I shouldn,t be talking about this as i have had post cancelled in the past, but the sooner they are allowed to race with enclosed right rears and mud flaps on the front this may be a way of controlling flying mud, just my opinion, but I have to say this rule has changed how drivers race, no longer does the thinking driver go sideways into a corner where there are pot holes about, they straighten up and go across the corner, the good side of this rule, if you can say it is a good side, is this now gives slower drivers more of a chance to race on the big stage as quicker drivers fall by the way side, in my mind a fairer way of implementing this rule is drivers still get points as to when you were eliminated.  . With social media , I can’t see why the points can not be posted on Facebook when they are posted in the pits , not sure calling them over the p a system would reach any more people Even when im attending events, i tend to go on here to gets points as cars are passing to get on track and revving engines to warm up as they enter etc and you miss the commentators even though they think they are talking between races, as long as there are cars on track you miss stuff!!!!! I agree, the track having someone to update social media during night in this age is beneficial!!!! |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 13:47:18 GMT 12
Have to commend Stratford, getting that done in the time frame they did, But the update of points was deplorable, while lining up on grid they had time to give each grid number, more appropiate would have been points, to me grids don,t matter if you don,t know where drivers are on points. They gave the points of the top 3 over all after each heat while cars were still circulating, couldn,t here a god dam thing. As for flat tire rule, I shouldn,t be talking about this as i have had post cancelled in the past, but the sooner they are allowed to race with enclosed right rears and mud flaps on the front this may be a way of controlling flying mud, just my opinion, but I have to say this rule has changed how drivers race, no longer does the thinking driver go sideways into a corner where there are pot holes about, they straighten up and go across the corner, the good side of this rule, if you can say it is a good side, is this now gives slower drivers more of a chance to race on the big stage as quicker drivers fall by the way side, in my mind a fairer way of implementing this rule is drivers still get points as to when you were eliminated. . The ones that are really frustrating are when the top drivers who are right in contention get a flat right rear - often because of poor track conditions - on the last lap or even, in one case, the final straight when it appears the tyre went down while repositioning cars under a red light. Two notables here are the 2nza and 26v, but I'm sure there were others. Everybody wants to see the best drivers contesting the championship, and as it sits now that isn't happening because of a bad rule, Barry B |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 13:57:25 GMT 12
You don't necessarily need someone to control the commentary, you just need Commentators to have a plan and work together which is what Paul and I did at Meeanee last week. I absolutely agree that for Island, GP and NZ titles a specialist should be brought in and perhaps SNZ could have a list of announcers and the classes they specialize in and then the Track hosting must use one of those on the list unless they are already based at the hosting track. Why does the sport not have a mentorship programme for commentators and aspiring commentators? There is a wealth of knowledge in Mike, Barry Brown and Paul Hickey for a start, and there are plenty of other legacy commentators around the country. With the advent of streaming, our sport is no longer just national, but international, and surely we want the best product being shown to the world? That is an idea I remember Graeme "Mintie" Mead floating many years ago, but nobody seemed interested. It's not so important on your normal club night, but at these really big championships, all live streamed as well, people are paying at the track or paying for the stream and not getting the information they want, need and deserve. Your point has much merit, but although we refer to speedway as "the sport" it's really a whole bunch of individual tracks fending for themselves. I think we arguably had a golden era of commentators for the first 20 years of this century, but many of those are no longer involved. Paul Hickey and Mike Wilson are, but Mintie, Mal Sines, Jamie McCarthy and myself, and that's just from the top half of the North Island have all gone. Barry B |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 14:01:39 GMT 12
There should be a law that for all NZ Stockcar and Superstock events Paul Hickey should be in the box and controlling the commentary  Barry B You don't necessarily need someone to control the commentary, you just need Commentators to have a plan and work together which is what Paul and I did at Meeanee last week. I absolutely agree that for Island, GP and NZ titles a specialist should be brought in and perhaps SNZ could have a list of announcers and the classes they specialize in and then the Track hosting must use one of those on the list unless they are already based at the hosting track. Agreed. "Control" was not really the right word, but the frustration last night of 24 races and no official results (only the top 10 of 25 cars off the screen at race end, before the referee got involved) and no official points was not good for my blood pressure haha. Barry B |
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Post by mudman on Jan 13, 2024 14:07:09 GMT 12
Have to commend Stratford, getting that done in the time frame they did, But the update of points was deplorable, while lining up on grid they had time to give each grid number, more appropiate would have been points, to me grids don,t matter if you don,t know where drivers are on points. They gave the points of the top 3 over all after each heat while cars were still circulating, couldn,t here a god dam thing. As for flat tire rule, I shouldn,t be talking about this as i have had post cancelled in the past, but the sooner they are allowed to race with enclosed right rears and mud flaps on the front this may be a way of controlling flying mud, just my opinion, but I have to say this rule has changed how drivers race, no longer does the thinking driver go sideways into a corner where there are pot holes about, they straighten up and go across the corner, the good side of this rule, if you can say it is a good side, is this now gives slower drivers more of a chance to race on the big stage as quicker drivers fall by the way side, in my mind a fairer way of implementing this rule is drivers still get points as to when you were eliminated. . The ones that are really frustrating are when the top drivers who are right in contention get a flat right rear - often because of poor track conditions - on the last lap or even, in one case, the final straight when it appears the tyre went down while repositioning cars under a red light. Two notables here are the 2nza and 26v, but I'm sure there were others. Everybody wants to see the best drivers contesting the championship, and as it sits now that isn't happening because of a bad rule, Barry B As much as we hate seeing top guys pop a tyre late in the race because ‘we want to see the best in the final’ we would absolutely love to see them retired from the race from a good block. It’s just such a shame that the class has got so racey that we don’t see the club vs club third heat shenanigans. I continue to hold hope to see a good olde fashioned humdinger of a final/repocharge but I won’t be holding my breath for it. |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 14:07:28 GMT 12
Have to commend Stratford, getting that done in the time frame they did, But the update of points was deplorable, while lining up on grid they had time to give each grid number, more appropiate would have been points, to me grids don,t matter if you don,t know where drivers are on points. They gave the points of the top 3 over all after each heat while cars were still circulating, couldn,t here a god dam thing. As for flat tire rule, I shouldn,t be talking about this as i have had post cancelled in the past, but the sooner they are allowed to race with enclosed right rears and mud flaps on the front this may be a way of controlling flying mud, just my opinion, but I have to say this rule has changed how drivers race, no longer does the thinking driver go sideways into a corner where there are pot holes about, they straighten up and go across the corner, the good side of this rule, if you can say it is a good side, is this now gives slower drivers more of a chance to race on the big stage as quicker drivers fall by the way side, in my mind a fairer way of implementing this rule is drivers still get points as to when you were eliminated. . Having watched the club President Kim Sharpe on Kokpit Media she certainly has hands on Tiller , well organized, comes across with club welfare certainly 1st and foremost and involves others heavily to make sure every facet runs smoothly. What is out of her control is it is a title meeting and under SNZ jurisdiction. Hope end of night 2 it is all bouquets for the club , quick breather and next title meeting. Stratford always battered above weight, on and off track. Where my 60 yrs of speedway addiction began. In the mid to late '80's, before i started with the infield photography thing, I travelled to Stratford a number of times to spectate at meetings. So many superstars from that era. Barry B |
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Post by beachboy on Jan 13, 2024 15:40:06 GMT 12
Have to commend Stratford, getting that done in the time frame they did, But the update of points was deplorable, while lining up on grid they had time to give each grid number, more appropiate would have been points, to me grids don,t matter if you don,t know where drivers are on points. They gave the points of the top 3 over all after each heat while cars were still circulating, couldn,t here a god dam thing. As for flat tire rule, I shouldn,t be talking about this as i have had post cancelled in the past, but the sooner they are allowed to race with enclosed right rears and mud flaps on the front this may be a way of controlling flying mud, just my opinion, but I have to say this rule has changed how drivers race, no longer does the thinking driver go sideways into a corner where there are pot holes about, they straighten up and go across the corner, the good side of this rule, if you can say it is a good side, is this now gives slower drivers more of a chance to race on the big stage as quicker drivers fall by the way side, in my mind a fairer way of implementing this rule is drivers still get points as to when you were eliminated. . The ones that are really frustrating are when the top drivers who are right in contention get a flat right rear - often because of poor track conditions - on the last lap or even, in one case, the final straight when it appears the tyre went down while repositioning cars under a red light. Two notables here are the 2nza and 26v, but I'm sure there were others. Everybody wants to see the best drivers contesting the championship, and as it sits now that isn't happening because of a bad rule, u Barry B so you don't like the rule? Do you think it needs to be in place? |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 15:45:57 GMT 12
The ones that are really frustrating are when the top drivers who are right in contention get a flat right rear - often because of poor track conditions - on the last lap or even, in one case, the final straight when it appears the tyre went down while repositioning cars under a red light. Two notables here are the 2nza and 26v, but I'm sure there were others. Everybody wants to see the best drivers contesting the championship, and as it sits now that isn't happening because of a bad rule, u Barry B so you don't like the rule? Do you think it needs to be in place? I can understand the reasoning for the rule, but it's a bad rule from a championship perspective. Hopefully they can do something with either the fences, or the cars, or both, so that we can return to a contrast that is less reliant on luck and more on ability. Barry B |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 16:17:57 GMT 12
Repechage 1; 32s Todd Duthie, 98g Bryce Simpson & 85s Dale Michelson
Barry B
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 16:32:59 GMT 12
Big crash in T1 of the second repechage. All entangled, up wall, on top of other cars etc. red light, and will see about 7 drivers not taking the restart including the 3nza of Lonergan. So 1nz, 2nz and 3nz all gone before the finals begin.
Barry B
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 16:42:18 GMT 12
Repechage 2; 15v Callum Sturzaker, 9s Bryce Jensen, 48s Jayke McGrath the three drivers though.
So 4 more Statty drivers, 1 for Gizzy and 1 for Whanganui into the 30 car final.
Barry B
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Post by twinspar on Jan 13, 2024 17:17:32 GMT 12
Having trouble with getting mylaps working, any ideas
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 17:28:29 GMT 12
Having trouble with getting mylaps working, any ideas Well there's nothing happening at the moment, and hasn't been for quite some time. There's a big gap between the two repechages and the main race night starting about 7.00pm. Barry B |
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Post by twinspar on Jan 13, 2024 17:36:39 GMT 12
Having trouble with getting mylaps working, any ideas Well there's nothing happening at the moment, and hasn't been for quite some time. There's a big gap between the two repechages and the main race night starting about 7.00pm. Barry B |
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Post by twinspar on Jan 13, 2024 17:37:29 GMT 12
Will the links you put out work again tonight Barry?
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 17:40:00 GMT 12
Will the links you put out work again tonight Barry? Percy normally puts the links up. I'll see if I can find it and post is. Give me a minute. Barry B |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 17:48:34 GMT 12
Will the links you put out work again tonight Barry? That's strange. I've got it running through the App okay, but their website is saying no live racing at the moment in New Zealand, but there obviously is. I must be doing something wrong. Last night's link only brings up last night's results. Barry B |
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Post by Macgor on Jan 13, 2024 18:03:48 GMT 12
Will the links you put out work again tonight Barry? That's strange. I've got it running through the App okay, but their website is saying no live racing at the moment in New Zealand, but there obviously is. I must be doing something wrong. Last night's link only brings up last night's results. Barry B Hope it works |
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Post by BarryB on Jan 13, 2024 18:06:24 GMT 12
That's strange. I've got it running through the App okay, but their website is saying no live racing at the moment in New Zealand, but there obviously is. I must be doing something wrong. Last night's link only brings up last night's results. Barry B Hope it works Seems to work. Thanks Gordon. I obviously don't know what I'm doing out of the comm box Barry B |
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Post by twinspar on Jan 13, 2024 18:10:16 GMT 12
Beautiful thank you
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