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Post by BarryB on Mar 9, 2024 20:51:14 GMT 12
But if they ran the 5-heat qualifying format Percy, they wouldn't be able to run the "King of the Mountain" second-tier competition for the four non-qualifiers. Barry B They seriously didn't run an event for 4 cars!? According to MyLaps they did, yes. Barry B |
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Post by BarryB on Mar 9, 2024 21:04:03 GMT 12
71s out early, so 2nz and 3nz up for grabs.
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Post by percy on Mar 9, 2024 21:05:55 GMT 12
71s listed as a DNF after 6 laps of heat 3
96h rocketing up the standings. Needs to get to 7th to tie with 68h (assuming 68h can hold off 3nz for second place)
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Post by percy on Mar 9, 2024 21:09:13 GMT 12
Sensational! 3nz passes 1nz for the lead and is now a factor for the podium!
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Post by percy on Mar 9, 2024 21:11:40 GMT 12
Very Unofficially
1nz Brad Lane (51pts)
2nz Carl Hinton (46pts)
3nz run-off between 68h Cody Hata and 3nz Luke Brown (44pts) (see below for post updates on this)
then one point further back to 54gm and 96h
Very close for 3rd-6th so don't take this as gospel!!
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Post by BarryB on Mar 9, 2024 21:14:41 GMT 12
Other than the 1nz, it all comes down to DNF points
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Post by BarryB on Mar 9, 2024 21:17:16 GMT 12
I'm not watching the stream but I thought 3nz scored 20+7+20=47 for 2nd overall. Thought he was last to retire so would be given 14th place.
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Post by percy on Mar 9, 2024 21:18:24 GMT 12
From a points table I've just seen it appears 9s Braith Kalin has been disqualified from heat 2 which gives 3nz Luke Brown an extra point (for his DNF) to total 5 for heat 2. That's enough to elevate Luke Brown into back to back 3nz's
1nz Brad Lane
2nz Carl Hinton
3nz Luke Brown
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Post by BarryB on Mar 9, 2024 21:21:36 GMT 12
Very Unofficially 1nz Brad Lane (51pts) 2nz Carl Hinton (46pts) 3nz run-off between 68h Cody Hata and 3nz Luke Brown (44pts) (see below for post updates on this) then one point further back to 54gm and 96h Very close for 3rd-6th so don't take this as gospel!! I concur on all of your points other than for 3nz. I also wonder how many DNF points 18c was given in Heat 1. He scored a 1st and a 4th in his two finishes, 3nz two 1sts. Hard luck to both of them. Barry B |
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Post by BarryB on Mar 9, 2024 21:24:29 GMT 12
I'm not watching the stream but I thought 3nz scored 20+7+20=47 for 2nd overall. Thought he was last to retire so would be given 14th place. Barry B I was sure 3nz was last to retire in Heat 2, but that was from watching live laps only, so who knows. It wouldn't be the first time incorrect DNF points have been given  Barry B |
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Post by percy on Mar 9, 2024 21:27:40 GMT 12
In terms of the DNF points lets start with 3nz in heat two.
4 cars are listed as retiring after 13 laps. Of those cars 3nz is listed with the longest race time indicating he was the last of the 4 DNF's on the last completed lap. Would have had 4 points per my scoring but 9s appears to have been DQ'd, elevating 3nz one spot to get 5 points.
Same scenario for 18c in heat 1. 4 cars DNF on lap 6. Total race time indicates 18c was the 4th of those cars on the last completed lap. Scores 3 points for an 18th place finish. Would have been a factor without the DNF.
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Post by BarryB on Mar 9, 2024 21:36:52 GMT 12
In terms of the DNF points lets start with 3nz in heat two. 4 cars are listed as retiring after 13 laps. Of those cars 3nz is listed with the longest race time indicating he was the last of the 4 DNF's on the last completed lap. Would have had 4 points per my scoring but 9s appears to have been DQ'd, elevating 3nz one spot to get 5 points. Same scenario for 18c in heat 1. 4 cars DNF on lap 6. Total race time indicates 18c was the 4th of those cars on the last completed lap. Scores 3 points for an 18th place finish. Would have been a factor without the DNF. I didn't think all those 4 cars retired on the same lap, but could be wrong. I thought when "retired" came up for 3nz the others were already out. I shoulda watched the stream  Barry B |
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Post by epmurc on Mar 9, 2024 21:42:25 GMT 12
3nz restarted after the incident but both front shocks were broken. He limped around for a lap and pulled off exiting turn 4. If he had made it across the start finish line he would have gained at least another two places.
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Post by percy on Mar 9, 2024 21:42:26 GMT 12
I didn't see the stream so can't comment on specifics but the rules are:
R11-4-43 Any vehicle that has withdrawn from a race will receive finishing points in the order of retirement
R11-4-44 In the case of two or more cars retiring together, points will be awarded in order of the previous complete recorded lap
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Post by BarryB on Mar 9, 2024 21:44:58 GMT 12
3nz restarted after the incident but both front shocks were broken. He limped around for a lap and pulled off exiting turn 4. If he had made it across the start finish line he would have gained at least another two places. That possibly makes sense out of what I thought I saw on MyLaps then. And 2 more points would have made him 2nz. Cheers epmurc. Barry B |
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Post by midway on Mar 9, 2024 22:06:35 GMT 12
Thanks for all the results ,much appreciated ,
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Post by mod46c on Mar 10, 2024 7:21:15 GMT 12
Is it time yet for my annual rant about tracks using the 3-heat format for non-contact classes? I've been biting my tongue all week! Probably past time the 3 heat option was removed from the rule book, for non contact classes 😉 |
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Post by Saloon29s on Mar 10, 2024 11:25:23 GMT 12
car numbers should have been capped to top 14 for finals, have suffered thru too many twenty car dust storms. would have added importance to qualifying as well. For some reason I've thought 16 cars for the finals for some years now, although that was more back when they ran more often at the likes of Rotorua and Nelson. But 20 Modifieds around a few of our tracks, including Stratford, is definitely a few too many for both of the reasons you mention. Barry B The rule book states twenty cars so although sixteen would have been better, twenty is what it has to be. |
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Post by Saloon29s on Mar 10, 2024 11:28:55 GMT 12
But if they ran the 5-heat qualifying format Percy, they wouldn't be able to run the "King of the Mountain" second-tier competition for the four non-qualifiers. Barry B They seriously didn't run an event for 4 cars!? Yip we did, for these reasons. 1/ Those drivers have still put the effort in to race and arrived at the track ready to go. Sometimes you need to look after the competitors too and those four drivers deserved their time on the track. 2/ It keeps the gapping correct in the program for results posting, any protests and issues to be sorted before the next heat, reducing the risk of delays and 'dead track time'. |
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Post by BarryB on Mar 10, 2024 12:58:34 GMT 12
In terms of the DNF points lets start with 3nz in heat two. 4 cars are listed as retiring after 13 laps. Of those cars 3nz is listed with the longest race time indicating he was the last of the 4 DNF's on the last completed lap. Would have had 4 points per my scoring but 9s appears to have been DQ'd, elevating 3nz one spot to get 5 points. Same scenario for 18c in heat 1. 4 cars DNF on lap 6. Total race time indicates 18c was the 4th of those cars on the last completed lap. Scores 3 points for an 18th place finish. Would have been a factor without the DNF. I didn't think all those 4 cars retired on the same lap, but could be wrong. I thought when "retired" came up for 3nz the others were already out. I shoulda watched the stream Barry B So from what I can tell from a video I have watched (based on what the camera is pointed at, the non-racing parts edited out and peering through the dust), it looks like there were two seperate incidents, one in T3 with two cars and then another in T1 with three cars, including the 3nz. I'm assuming now that they both happened when the field was attempting the 14th lap. With taking the lap count back to the last completed lap each time, and 3nz actually restarting from the second incident before withdrawing exiting T4 on the same lap as the restart he did complete more distance than any of the other retirees, but as he was actually behind them all at the completion of lap 13 he was placed behind them on the official results sheet. Along with the 18c and the 71s, a better result was possible. The 11a didn't do enough laps to know how competitive he could have been, but irregardless the 1nz remaining the 1nz was not a great surprise. Barry B |
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