SNZ Technical Rule Changes (Read 3,438 times)

[grindingdisc]

SNZ Proposed Technical rule changes are out now

Current Status: Feedback from Stakeholders requested. Closes 30th April 2024

Its important to note for those busy competitors that are away travleling and working on cars that there is a very short window of 20 days to submit feedback

It is also important to note on the driver feedback submission page that quote

“”A reminder that consultation is not a vote... We are looking for your feedback on the proposed changes”

“All feedback will be collated and the Board will make a decision on if the proposed change becomes a Rule. The outcome will be announced end of May”

Take of that what you will

Also one point i would like to put up for discussion is that, another year on from when the the Stockcar “Superstock kiwi tyre” tyre trial was introduced (pushed in), there has still not been an oppotunity for drivers to share their feedback, with this not being in the proposed rules one would assume the trial is over?


www.speedway.co.nz/technical-1/proposed-rule-changes

[interestedbystander]

"Submissions that impact Performance, Cost or Other may only be made between 1st Feb – 28th Feb each year".

WHY?

[bikeboy]

Apr 11, 2024 13:00:51 GMT 12 interestedbystander said:

"Submissions that impact Performance, Cost or Other may only be made between 1st Feb – 28th Feb each year".

WHY?

So it can be discussed and decided upon before the next season ,

[grindingdisc]

Apr 11, 2024 14:10:01 GMT 12 bikeboy said:

Apr 11, 2024 13:00:51 GMT 12 interestedbystander said:

"Submissions that impact Performance, Cost or Other may only be made between 1st Feb – 28th Feb each year".

WHY?

So it can be discussed and decided upon before the next season ,

Unless its kiwi superstock dirt tyres in the stockcar class where
COST PERFORMANCE OTHER AND DISCUSSION aparently isnt important

[mod46c]

Apr 11, 2024 13:00:51 GMT 12 interestedbystander said:

"Submissions that impact Performance, Cost or Other may only be made between 1st Feb – 28th Feb each year".

WHY?

IMHO your point is valid, there is no reason to limit when submissions can be made.

The consultation process should be only once a year start after the technical committee's have had a look, which starts at some point just after feb 28th deadline, (allowing for the logistics of collating the remits for consideration).

[mrdamage]

Apr 11, 2024 14:25:33 GMT 12 grindingdisc said:

Apr 11, 2024 14:10:01 GMT 12 bikeboy said:

So it can be discussed and decided upon before the next season ,

Unless its kiwi superstock dirt tyres in the stockcar class where
COST PERFORMANCE OTHER AND DISCUSSION aparently isnt important

Glad Im not the only one, when I asked for clarification as a stakeholder initially I was told by SNZ it would be "on the Agenda" up at the next meeting, and then when I followed up a month and half later to see the outcome of the meeting a simple reply saying "Noted thank and received" with nothing further to eventuate.

That rule/remit was pushed through without member consultation in either proposed remits, or at conference. So didn't meet their own threshold for being added.

"The New Technical Rule Change Submissions Process
• Submissions that impact Safety in the sport can be made at any time.
• Submissions that impact Performance, Cost or Other may only be made between 1st Feb – 28th (29th) Feb each year.
• Outcomes of Technical Submissions will be announced by 31st May following the consultation process. This will enable stakeholders to prepare for the upcoming season with a set of rules that, except in the instance of safety, won’t change.

Given this wasn't put forward through the remit process, and it has a direct correlation to cost & performance, how can you justify the rule/trial - as this is against the intent of the stockcar class.

The request clearly must've been put through after the Remit due date, so according to SNZ's own wording this would be ineligible for the latest round of proposed rules. As a stakeholder how do we know this request was even made by a licensed stock car competitor - not a owner/supplier?

In every other instance whenever there has been a trial, competitors have had to fill out and provide forms detailing any changes, reasoning for the trial along with benefits.

To then allow the tyre which is illegal in every other form for our class, to be allowed at any title let alone national titles is quite frankly disgusting and shows just how out of touch SNZ has become with the common competitors by allowing illegal tyres that by default put every other competitor at a disadvantage.

[interestedbystander]

Unless its kiwi superstock dirt tyres in the stockcar class where
COST PERFORMANCE OTHER AND DISCUSSION aparently isnt important

Yeah seems shytolla to me. We cant even suggest a change till a certain time of year but they can make arbitrary changes anytime they like. That should be stopped. Have removed a bunch of words, said too much. 

[grindingdisc]

Aparently the tyres arent the size that they say on the packet and you have to buy about 10 to get a pair of the correct size tyres, im not sure how this is good for a budget class at all,
When they could just go to any tyre shop in town and buy the size they need

[interestedbystander]

So many proposed changes, I havent read them yet but looking at the list it looks like change for change sake. jeez how did the sport ever get on needing so many changes, (Tongue in cheek) in my life experience, Change just means more money needing spent.

[interestedbystander]

what the fk are they smoking?? I'll have a pound of it please! OEM wheels, Superstock wheels? OEM? I have never seen a superstock or stockcart for that matter running road wheels! Surely this is an example of rules for rules sake or SNZ are far too liberal with what they call OEM. imho

"There has been a considerable rise in reported failures in OEM wheels regarding cracks or
complete catastrophic failure throughout the season resulting in heightened risk of harm"

[mod46c]

Apr 24, 2024 14:26:32 GMT 12 interestedbystander said:

what the fk are they smoking?? I'll have a pound of it please! OEM wheels, Superstock wheels? OEM? I have never seen a superstock or stockcart for that matter running road wheels! Surely this is an example of rules for rules sake or SNZ are far too liberal with what they call OEM. imho

"There has been a considerable rise in reported failures in OEM wheels regarding cracks or
complete catastrophic failure throughout the season resulting in heightened risk of harm"

Back in the day the technical committee used to filter out the dross, that is longer the case

[grindingdisc]

Apr 24, 2024 15:29:31 GMT 12 mod46c said:

Apr 24, 2024 14:26:32 GMT 12 interestedbystander said:

what the fk are they smoking?? I'll have a pound of it please! OEM wheels, Superstock wheels? OEM? I have never seen a superstock or stockcart for that matter running road wheels! Surely this is an example of rules for rules sake or SNZ are far too liberal with what they call OEM. imho

"There has been a considerable rise in reported failures in OEM wheels regarding cracks or
complete catastrophic failure throughout the season resulting in heightened risk of harm"

Back in the day the technical committee used to filter out the dross, that is longer the case

Id love to know who it is that goes round reporting broken and cracked wheels lol and who does he report it to?

[grindingdisc]

The drivers do not make the rules as claimed by “SNZ” snz corrupt board make the rules

Much like councils and nzta when they ask for public feed back on speed limmit restrictions and road changes they do not give a rats ass about the people

Untill the day we see poll voting this corruption will never end

[percy]

Jun 4, 2024 10:21:21 GMT 12 grindingdisc said:

The drivers do not make the rules as claimed by “SNZ” snz corrupt board make the rules

Jeepers what's triggered you this time? Did a technical outcome not go your way?

[midway]

Sounds like Grinding disc ,hooked himself into the three phase power circuit and burnt himself out ...