a question regarding RUCs (Read 1,624 times)

[GavS]

Ok so i have a question

so say my truck weighs in at 2.1 tonnes with both me and th e misses in it and i run a 3 ton sticker

over xmas i offer to tow scotti savages sprint car down to cromwell on the 23rd(when im going down) so that when he finished work at lunchtime on the 30th he doesnt have to be slowed down by towing, thus means he will make it in time to race

but heres my wondering

does that load im towing come under RUC,s

and if it does, what do you guys do, i still have 5000ks on my 3 tonne sticker

where i would have a truck 2.1 ton, our gears(should say babys gear) 400kg, and what 1.8 ton trailor with load? or all up 4.3 ton

what do all you guys do towing with a desiel

[Deleted]

Dec 15, 2008 17:44:48 GMT 12 GavS said:

Ok so i have a question

so say my truck weighs in at 2.1 tonnes with both me and th e misses in it and i run a 3 ton sticker

over xmas i offer to tow scotti savages sprint car down to cromwell on the 23rd(when im going down) so that when he finished work at lunchtime on the 30th he doesnt have to be slowed down by towing, thus means he will make it in time to race

but heres my wondering

does that load im towing come under RUC,s

and if it does, what do you guys do, i still have 5000ks on my 3 tonne sticker

where i would have a truck 2.1 ton, our gears(should say babys gear) 400kg, and what 1.8 ton trailor with load? or all up 4.3 ton

what do all you guys do towing with a desiel

I could be wrong (for the first time ever), But ya truck would have the GLW of the truck and the trailer, if its over the threshold would have its own GLW RUC label. I believe its only the laden weight of the truck that counts.

But someone can and should correct me if this is wrong.

[Murray Guy (Grandad)]

Your truck is obviously very small!
RUC only for vehicle, NOT trailer.

[nogrip-31gm]

the way ive always read it is the gvm of the truck..

so my truck has a 4 sticker..but a gvm of 4100kg.
so i can load my car on it,tyres,tools,parts,macdonalds etc upto 4100kg.

but then the towbar also has a rating on it which ive never looked at.
inside the truck on the cab it has a loading rating for gcw (gross combined weight).
which ive also never looked at but it can tow 750kg on the drawbar which im guessing would equal to about 2000kg-2500kg combined car and trailer if sprung and braked and tandem...

so what im trying to say is i dont know f all....
but your truck should have loading tags somewhere for factory specs..

or just wing it.. ;D

[HRC]

we towed with a 100 series Land cruiser and that had a 3 Ton sticker so i believe you should be alright as your truck can be driven on a car license being under 3 ton but you can always give Land transport an anonymous call and find out for sure

[GavS]

i know you can have up to 4500, combined on a car license

by truck i do mean terrano

and towball has a rating of 2000kg braked

but i think the question has been answered, RUc's are only for the Towing car not its trailer and load

[gravy14]

your right there mate, you only need RUC for the tow vehicle and as long as the braked trailer weighs no more than 2000kg you will be sweet.

Cheers,

[nogrip-31gm]

why people call 4x4s trucks is beyond me
a truck can carry stuff and looks like a truck

[sherylandrobert]

I may be wrong but i believe you have to allow for any weight the trailer adds to the towing vehicle as you get weighed with the trailer still connected but not on the weighbridge,Robert

[Murray Guy (Grandad)]

No expert on the law in this regard but ....

Heading for Palmy one Saturday I called in to the weigh station at Bulls / Sanson as I was curious as to my all up weight. Was towing with the Jeep at around 2800kgs (which has a 3500kg rated towing capacity) plus tandem and race car, say 2500kgs. Bottom line, over 5000kgs all up.

The police manning the weigh station were only interested in the race car, having no interest in a vehicle for private use. They did oblige me by weighing me. Forgotten the exact amount but was over 5000kgs.

[MadMarty13B]

It was a new law they were going to bring in several years ago but put on the back burner somewhere ,they are not policing it.

[Colin E]

You can always cover yourself by purchasing Supplementary RUC.
If you know how many kms you will be travelling at an increased weight you can top up your RUC by increments of 100kms.
All you do is purchase them just before you leave and only purchase to within 100kms of what you need to cover yourself.
So you probably need to get an extra 1000kgs for the trip you are doing.

[hermo]

You can actually buy supplementary road user charges in lots of 50kms, if the 4x4 is going to weigh in at more than 3 ton plus a 5% tollerance, ie 3150kgs then you could find out how many kms you will do and buy a 4 ton supplementary sticker which will only charge you for the extra 1 ton for the amount of kms you buy. If you need 200kms you buy 4 lots of 50kms and so on. The weight of the 4x4 when it is on the weighbride by itself is the only thing you need to know but you need to be in the 4x4 and have the thing loaded as you would when you travel, ie trailer on the back and you and passengers inside. It's as clear as mud now ah?

[mike88g]

You can't purchase any RUC rated at a higher weight than what the vehicle is legally rated at.

[noelh]

Something that I am a little familiar with having operated a transport Company. Your road user is for your vehicle, trailers with a combined weight with load exceeding 3.5 tonnes require RUC, you have to watch that you don"t exceed you vehicles chassis rating regardless to how much RUC you purchase, LTSA will take your money and issue you a 10 tonne sticker for your 3 tonne vehicle if you are silly enough to purchase one. Also be careful not to exceed your tow bar rating, your tow ball rating, and your vehicle towing mass rating. All are separate offences. Regards to weighing tow vehicle and trailer, I have had charges dismissed when weighed with a non pivoting draw bar trailer as one unit. A solid drawbar transfers weight onto your back axles, ie a correct weighing procedure is to remove trailer before weighing tow vehicle.

[FantomFan]

Dec 15, 2008 17:44:48 GMT 12 GavS said:

Ok so i have a question

so say my truck weighs in at 2.1 tonnes with both me and th e misses in it and i run a 3 ton sticker

over xmas i offer to tow scotti savages sprint car down to cromwell on the 23rd(when im going down) so that when he finished work at lunchtime on the 30th he doesnt have to be slowed down by towing, thus means he will make it in time to race

but heres my wondering

does that load im towing come under RUC,s

and if it does, what do you guys do, i still have 5000ks on my 3 tonne sticker

where i would have a truck 2.1 ton, our gears(should say babys gear) 400kg, and what 1.8 ton trailor with load? or all up 4.3 ton

what do all you guys do towing with a desiel

RUC is for that vehicle alone.

Your bigger problem is the total weight may put you into a different class of licence. Apparently the weight of a light trailer gets added to the weight of a light towing vehicle so your 3ton sticker gives you about 1.5ton for your loaded trailer.

[GavS]

well this all seams to hard.... so


scotti sorry mate , im not going to offer, anyway just means i'll be drinking in cromwell a couple hours earlier on the 23rd

[BadGirl77]

You worry to much Gav, just don't get caught speeding ;D ;D ;D
I'd tow it, but I'm not in Christchurch.

[GavS]

Dec 16, 2008 20:34:57 GMT 12 BadGirl77 said:

You worry to much Gav, just don't get caught speeding ;D ;D ;D
I'd tow it, but I'm not in Christchurch.

that would be race car suicide

[BadGirl77]

Sprintcar and trailer can't weigh much more than streetstock and trailer, just use your gears going up and down hills.