94p for sale (Read 4,191 times)

[scottyfan]

i see 94p is for sale is he getting a new car?

[damo1018]

maybe he is going sprintcar racing? alot of good drivers from superstocks have gone to sprintcars, well alot of good drivers from various classes have.

just a guess i wouldnt have a clue what he is doing lol

[joshnz]

he might like the F1 more

[drew]

need some funds to race in the UK???

maybe he broke the F1 at Ferndene and has to pay for the repairs?? LOL ;D

Drew

[sandy898]

could be selling and upgrading to a 09 chassis

[Wiseowl]

I would have thought, that the whole speedway community should wake up and take notice of whats happening to the great sport of SuperStocks..

At $95,000 its no wonder those involved with this car are selling..

The whole business of this class is financially getting "out of hand"

I have said for years, that there needs to be a back-track of costs in this class..........crazy !!!!

I reckon I could write a book on the cost-blowouts I have observed over decades..............
But then nobody in the right places would take notice anyway

Sad really !!
$95,000..killing the class for the future generations

Bring back ...the drums, compulsory hit to pass, retract the fancy gear & fastest cars to the back !!

Cheers
Wiseowl

[Richh]

Totally agree O wise 1
Seen this happen in similar motor sports.
Outa hand.

[busterbell]

does it matter thou when there is the stockcar class as a alternative??

[Chopper]

Dec 30, 2008 9:26:12 GMT 12 busterbell said:

does it matter thou when there is the stockcar class as a alternative??

Of course it matters, The stockcar class is heading in the same direction.

[pallmall]

Dec 30, 2008 7:53:05 GMT 12 Wiseowl said:

I would have thought, that the whole speedway community should wake up and take notice of whats happening to the great sport of SuperStocks..

At $95,000 its no wonder those involved with this car are selling..

The whole business of this class is financially getting "out of hand"

I have said for years, that there needs to be a back-track of costs in this class..........crazy !!!!

I reckon I could write a book on the cost-blowouts I have observed over decades..............
But then nobody in the right places would take notice anyway

Sad really !!
$95,000..killing the class for the future generations

Bring back ...the drums, compulsory hit to pass, retract the fancy gear & fastest cars to the back !!

Cheers
Wiseowl

OH YES. And a hard as control tyre for the right rear that costs no more than $150.

[Deleted]

Absolutley, whole heartedly agree with the wisest of Owls!

Although Im not sure about the drums ideas, Id love to see it personally as Im too young to remember drum races, but Osh would have a field day Im sure, but in saying that OSH could already have a field day judging by other threads.

Was there not talk of a larger engine with less go fast bits inside it a while ago? Or were those ideas bantered around to reduce the costs?

I too have talked and supported these sorts of ideas, its ridiculous to think to be competiitive in a "grassroots" motorsport, you have to spend nearly a third of your mortgage on a Superstock.

Its about time we started realising its not right, it needs to be adressed, along with the stockcar class.

These are the issues that need to be attended to urgently for the sports survival's sake!

[Saloon29s]

Change the rules to let them run 750hp $20,000 engines like the F1 car instead of spending $60,000 trying to get 400hp out of a 248 ci engine. Control tyres and no adjustable shocks should pretty much cover it.

[MadMarty13B]

THE TWO THINGS PEOPLE DONT THINK OF, OOOPS CAPS, is that
A Its one thing to have an expensive Superstock with all the good gear and good engine its another to run it and maintain it at top level
B A majority of Superstock Drivers dont even own their cars they just drive them they are owned by mainly business people.Of course the majority of those drivers wont tell you that lol.

[Deleted]

So what is that saying Marty?

The average competitive Superstock is out of financial reach of most of the drivers?

It appears that way, and is the case, basically the top level contact class has priced its competitors out of the market?

Thats absolutely shocking, disgusting to be honest.I remember the days of A grades, they were a much more simpler version of the mega dollar hot rods, drivers actually owned them, and could afford to race, make lots of contact, repair them and front up the following meeting.

Now it seems to be trickling down to the Stockcar class, how long before these cars are priced out from competitors as well?

Speedway in my humble opinion, (21 years a fan) has not evolved with the times, I mean what other sport prices it competitors out of the game?

Lets get real, lets get pro active, and lets cut the costs, modernise the rules, think outside the square a bit, and lets push past agendas and bring the sport back to the people, instead of taking it away from them!

[Deleted]

Dec 30, 2008 13:34:52 GMT 12 Saloon29s said:

Change the rules to let them run 750hp $20,000 engines like the F1 car instead of spending $60,000 trying to get 400hp out of a 248 ci engine. Control tyres and no adjustable shocks should pretty much cover it.

Its really that simple isnt it!

[banaro]

to add to martys coment B. also a lot of banks own most lol thats why me old mate Marty the tank tammer deserves kudos on a budget with kids solo parent darn then 40k to update chassis ect wheres the money come from hard work and dedication or big loans and funded rides the little men (not in height although hes not that tall lol) like marty are deserving of credit.I myself am in my late 20's own my home well a small mortgage 150k or so on a 300k ish house give or take you know lol have 2 small children not a high paying job at all.(anyone in welly looking for a hard worker for better pay lol pm me) a hq monaro that is in a ton of bits owes me like 20k worth say 35 plus when done?? married with kids and mortgage another on the way mrs b is 7 weeks preggy we have no spare money hardly can afford to go to most meetings to help crew ect , so look at marty on a budget next to no coin and hes out there doing it,nice bloke loves to talk smack lol but hey makes things interesting and i wish him luck and anyother driver out there i know because of crewing ect race cars dont come cheap loss of time with familly working on them extra mortgages bills for parts then repairs ect not cheap so good on you all drivers,and good luck on the sale of 94P top car well presented its no slouch and will win races cheers for reading my rant lol Geremy.

[thejoker]

Superstocks are supposed to be the pinnacle of speedway. Running drum brakes , a make of street legal tyre, no adjustable shocks etc... and you'll be taking that away. I'd like to see the rules left alone. No changes for x amount of time that way engine development (which is the major cost) will be minimal. I'm thinking 10 years then maybe what ever necessary adjustments to the rule book can be made. The 248Ci rule has been in for 5? years and progress seams to have slowed regarding horse power. Engine builders seem to be in search of toque which cost $$. You can stop people spending but every time there is a major rule change more dollars need to be spent to stay competitive .I don't want to see the sport taking a back wards step. The cars are fast enough now so I'm not for to many changes either. Some people are calling for superstocks to be slowed down but there not going much faster than 5 years ago, and in that time the safety standards have improved immensely. Not by the rule book but the drivers looking after themselves. Better helmets, Hans device, seats, more padding and the general maintaince and presentation on cars has improved every year.The sport needs stability not knee jerk reaction for change. A few more hit to pass meetings wouldn't go astray tho. Lets keep superstocks at the top where they belong. It's alot of money to spend on a car but is it worth it? Probably is! My 2 cents.

[DTM1]

Competing in any form of motorsport is a privilege not a right and like all things with privilege attached it comes at a cost......why this seems hard for some to understand i can never fiqure out.

[MadMarty13B]

I don't have a problem with how some cars are priced because at the end of the day if you really don't want them to win, then they wont if one does their job properly if they were hammered enough you would soon see the prices come down, but there are very few Superstock drivers that race like that these days and when they do they get verbally or sometimes physically attacked.
I remember I got attacked one time online by this guy that pit crewed for someone and he said to me Im just a scum in a budget car that causes extensive damage to the cars that people spends hours on and all their hard earned money making their cars look nice.
? The same for Stockcars, if people think they are getting too pricey and that they are outdoing what the class was intended for then don't let them win, you can bring costs down by actions via the track.

[Deleted]

Sorting them out on the track is one way Marty, but what happens in say 10 years time when Superstocks wont exist, or will they be a second tier Sprintcar class?

Preserving the class surely must be the main objective as we wade through a recession and look to the future of all classes, Or are we all happy to speedway continue to evolve into a money dominated sport where you win because your chequebook is the biggest?

Im wondering why speedway was set up as a sport in the country in the First place? What were the objectives, plans way back when?

Was it to get people into the sport on a low budget, to have fun, to socialise to meet and make new friends and enjoy racing together?

Or was it to eventually evolve the sport into a money pit, where the best racers are determined by thier budgets, and those who represent the core values of speedway are left on the fringes because thier vehicle doesnt happen to be a chequebook on wheels?