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Post by Mike D on Dec 30, 2008 16:57:02 GMT 12
Didint take you guys long to get off the topic of the 94p Superstock being up for sale... Why dont you go pull eachothers hair out next time  |
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Post by Topcat on Dec 30, 2008 20:00:56 GMT 12
Only need 1 rule....Right Rear tyre, hard compound and reasonably narrow...problem solved...you can pay as much as you like for an engine but if you can't get the power to the ground you will be sending your dollars up in wheelies... No use pickin on the Superstocks, it's in all classes we have seen lately, Ministocks, Stockcars, Super Saloons and Saloons.
How many previous super saloons have been converted to saloons in the past year?
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Post by Cheque Book on Dec 30, 2008 20:03:47 GMT 12
bloody nice car and a great package, well under cost to build,
as seen in stockcars at wellington a old green flat chassis can stop a $50,000 stockcar, so for those who think it is out of control go buy a fatty and stir it up, :"I FOR ONE THINK THESE $100,000" cars are amazing,
70 cars heading too chch @ $100,000 is $7m, now that's a show,
94p what mr collingwood up too.
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Post by koobecar on Dec 30, 2008 21:00:18 GMT 12
I remember I got attacked one time online by this guy that pit crewed for someone and he said to me Im just a scum in a budget car that causes extensive damage to the cars that people spends hours on and all their hard earned money making their cars look nice. bugga i must have been getting a hotdog ;D |
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Post by mal on Dec 30, 2008 21:33:22 GMT 12
350 crate motors (or 351) and control tyre... would sound great, still go fast and if phased in properly shouldnt hurt too many
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Post by Saloon29s on Dec 30, 2008 22:10:36 GMT 12
bloody nice car and a great package, well under cost to build, as seen in stockcars at wellington a old green flat chassis can stop a $50,000 stockcar, so for those who think it is out of control go buy a fatty and stir it up, :"I FOR ONE THINK THESE $100,000" cars are amazing, 70 cars heading too chch @ $100,000 is $7m, now that's a show, 94p what mr collingwood up too. That green flat chassis is only two years old so I hear. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2008 7:23:56 GMT 12
Superstocks like most motorsports is The Man with the most money will do a lot better than someone with less, with a little bit of talent of course as well. It's how it will be, so lets move on from this eh?
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Post by The Observer on Dec 31, 2008 11:35:41 GMT 12
bloody nice car and a great package, well under cost to build, as seen in stockcars at wellington a old green flat chassis can stop a $50,000 stockcar, so for those who think it is out of control go buy a fatty and stir it up, : That green flat chassis is only two years old so I hear. Correct - the "old green flat chassis" was a brand new car built 2 or three years ago. New steel bends less apparently? And i did hear the corrugations of those side rails were from a cut up 20 ft container - not sure what thickness steel that is but it sure is strong ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2008 11:45:22 GMT 12
Superstocks like most motorsports is The Man with the most money will do a lot better than someone with less, with a little bit of talent of course as well. It's how it will be, so lets move on from this eh? Thats only hows its allowed to be and how SNZ continue to let it be. It doesnt have to be that way, its killing the sport, slowly but surely, and as said in ALL classes. Does no one care about the future of the sport? It appears very few. And that as a passionate speedway fan, is very dissapointing. |
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Post by busterbell on Dec 31, 2008 11:59:01 GMT 12
bloody nice car and a great package, well under cost to build, as seen in stockcars at wellington a old green flat chassis can stop a $50,000 stockcar, so for those who think it is out of control go buy a fatty and stir it up, : That green flat chassis is only two years old so I hear. Correct - the "old green flat chassis" was a brand new car built 2 or three years ago. New steel bends less apparently? And i did hear the corrugations of those side rails were from a cut up 20 ft container - not sure what thickness steel that is but it sure is strong ;D perhaps just as interesting is that it was based on the design of an old dave tennant chassis.  |
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Post by DTM1 on Dec 31, 2008 12:57:44 GMT 12
Thats only hows its allowed to be and how SNZ continue to let it be. It doesnt have to be that way, its killing the sport, slowly but surely, and as said in ALL classes. Do you have any actual and factual evidence to support your claim? or is it just another one of your emotional pleas from the sidelines?. |
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Post by thejoker on Dec 31, 2008 15:46:39 GMT 12
Agree DTM. There is no facts to base that on. 10 years ago we had 70 odd competitors in the NZ's. same again this weekend. I can remember talk like this happening when Craig boote brought the Hot rod for 50K . people jumping up and down over prices. Everyone except the people buying the cars.
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Post by Stevo on Dec 31, 2008 15:58:18 GMT 12
If you put it into perspective, compared to other forms of motorsport 95k ain't too bad for a car that you can use week in, week out for 6 months of the year at the top level. Try and see what you can get for that kind of money for a top level tarmac skidder and then see how many times a year you can use it. For example, in the new V8 utes category, to purchase a new Commodore or Falcon ready to race is in the 90k region and there are only 6 or 7 race meetings in a season and you have to travel the length of the country to compete. Spend 95 on a superstock and you can get 6 months racing without having to leave town if you didn't want to travel.
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Post by craigsvo on Dec 31, 2008 16:25:23 GMT 12
its the same for stockcars how much has these cars gone up in price yet the class is huge!!!
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Post by joshnz on Dec 31, 2008 19:36:19 GMT 12
Change the rules to let them run 750hp $20,000 engines like the F1 car instead of spending $60,000 trying to get 400hp out of a 248 ci engine. Control tyres and no adjustable shocks should pretty much cover it. thats the one mate,i dont see why you have to limit to a small 248ci when its cheaper and easyer to get a bigger motor with more power |
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Post by joshnz on Dec 31, 2008 19:40:17 GMT 12
need some funds to race in the UK??? maybe he broke the F1 at Ferndene and has to pay for the repairs?? LOL ;D Drew it wouldnt cost 100k to fix a F1,but a superstock driver would find somehow to |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Dec 31, 2008 20:31:36 GMT 12
Change the rules to let them run 750hp $20,000 engines like the F1 car instead of spending $60,000 trying to get 400hp out of a 248 ci engine. Control tyres and no adjustable shocks should pretty much cover it. thats the one mate,i dont see why you have to limit to a small 248ci when its cheaper and easyer to get a bigger motor with more power just a reminder a few seasons ago pat Westbury trialled a standard 350 chev he ran midfield most races but at the end of it there was no feed back from SNZ zilch nothing why??? the engine cost 2 and a half grand if I remember rightly there were law suites threatned from people if the engine rule was changed anyone shed some light on this? |
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Post by joshnz on Dec 31, 2008 20:59:13 GMT 12
bad news for you guys,lucky we have more relxaed rulz for engines,alot here use falcon engines,but just as much have the bigger v8s
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2009 13:29:00 GMT 12
Thats only hows its allowed to be and how SNZ continue to let it be. It doesnt have to be that way, its killing the sport, slowly but surely, and as said in ALL classes. Do you have any actual and factual evidence to support your claim? or is it just another one of your emotional pleas from the sidelines?. DTM1, I have no factual evidence, the only evidence I have is from what Ive observed since I was a little tacker to now, I am merely a fan concerned about the sport and the future of it. Call it "another emotional plea from the sideline" or whatever you'd like to call it, I am a concerned fan. |
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Post by DTM1 on Jan 1, 2009 13:58:44 GMT 12
DTM1, I have no factual evidence, the only evidence I have is from what Ive observed since I was a little tacker to now, I am merely a fan concerned about the sport and the future of it. Call it "another emotional plea from the sideline" or whatever you'd like to call it, I am a concerned fan. Why the concern over costs though ?,the sport is not getting handicapped by the costs of equipment,its getting handicapped by Clubs who continue to run the sport by agenda and committee. |
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