|
|
Post by petero on Jan 31, 2009 12:39:14 GMT 12
Cant show you too much of the good oil yet, but here are a few teasers from last night.. Drew Man from wellington's night ended here.  Man from Huntly's ended here.  Scotty doing what he does best..  Then had a blond moment..  Jacko spining in the first heat.  POP!   Ward getting it wrong and going backwards during a spin..  Might get some more up later... Drew great photo's Drew, however note all the crew/ spectators hard up against the fence - AGAIN. seems to happen at many tracks. SNZ officials should not allow racing when this happens. People foolishly seem to think they will be safe. Perhaps they should look at the photo's of the sprintcar going THROUGH the fence in Palmy before xmas and into the spectator area. |
|
race36s
Full Member
Real race cars have doors
Posts: 210
|
Post by race36s on Jan 31, 2009 13:13:43 GMT 12
Mate we wouldn't be racing if it wasn't safe. You can't compare the spectator area, fence, etc at Stratford to the one at Palmerston North. For a start the is no lip on the bottom of the wall like the one at Palmy and at the catch fence there is at least a metre from the wall.
|
|
|
|
Post by Saloon29s on Jan 31, 2009 13:38:45 GMT 12
They are not standing hard up against the fence. There is another wire fence about 1m back from the mesh fence and that is what they are standing against.
|
|
|
|
Post by chris56 on Jan 31, 2009 13:40:55 GMT 12
Sorry guys I didn't end up taking laptop down as it was too dusty!!! what dust! there was none where we were |
|
|
|
Post by chris56 on Jan 31, 2009 13:44:23 GMT 12
i was around 1/2 i didnt see anyone hard up at the fence not even close to the 1m wire fence thingy
|
|
|
|
Post by drew on Jan 31, 2009 13:46:20 GMT 12
Sorry guys I didn't end up taking laptop down as it was too dusty!!! what dust! there was none where we were What time was that? 6pm?? Man was it dusty!! I would hate to have been on the outside of the track! Drew |
|
|
|
Post by chris56 on Jan 31, 2009 13:50:30 GMT 12
we had nothing all night drew all the dust headed to turn 2 we were between 1/2 ;D
Edit: drew in pic where jacko has spun up at front of his wing in crowd theres a guy in a red/white shirt i was sitting around there best spot in the place lol see the whole track and no dust been sitting there for like 24 years now except NZ Superstocks back around 2000ish
|
|
|
|
Post by petero on Jan 31, 2009 14:18:09 GMT 12
Mate we wouldn't be racing if it wasn't safe. You can't compare the spectator area, fence, etc at Stratford to the one at Palmerston North. For a start the is no lip on the bottom of the wall like the one at Palmy and at the catch fence there is at least a metre from the wall. Okay, photo's can be deceptive, and it has been a while since we have been to Stratford however the second photo down would appear to be looking at the pit area, as like at many tracks, the pit crew stand up against the fence to watch. yes the fence at Stratford appears stronger, certainly the wire ropes appear to go much higher. perhaps I have a major concern re the safety of spectators at many places, and how close people are allowed to the fence during racing. Many tracks would simply not hold back an open wheeler when in full flight. The sprintcar in Palmy did not hit the wall. It had an incident into turn one, clipped another car I think, and then got airborne and hit their safety fence (catch fence) above the wire ropes. Stockcars and the like are less likely to get too much height, open wheel cars are different and can and have gone over fences. If people really think being behind a fence by one meter is safe, ask all those that have been hit or had close calls by things flying through fences (or the fence itself going at them) when cars hit the fence etc, let alone what has gone over fences. I understand that SNZ is conducting a review of safety fences and hopefully something will come of this, and not just the fence itself, but what also goes on behind it. Many tracks allow the public far to close, whether that be a stand, walkway area etc At least some tracks are taking a proactive approach rather than state our fence meets the minimum requirements and bury their heads in the sand. This my opinion anyway, but also backed up with many actual incidents personally seen over 20 years of spectating, plus countless photo's and videos of cars etc leaving the track and going through or over fences. |
|
|
|
Post by youngone on Jan 31, 2009 14:24:23 GMT 12
Photo 2 isn't the pit crew area, the photo is part way into turn 2. While it looks as though they are up against the fence they aren't, they are a little way back, maybe 3 to 4 metres. People walking past would walk between them and the fence. In that spot they would have been dust blasted last night.
The two roll overs up against the wall though, lots of people rush to the fence to watch, that is always a worry when methanol fueld cars crasgh
|
|
|
|
Post by Saloon29s on Jan 31, 2009 15:17:28 GMT 12
If people really think being behind a fence by one meter is safe, ask all those that have been hit or had close calls by things flying through fences (or the fence itself going at them) when cars hit the fence etc, let alone what has gone over fences. I understand that SNZ is conducting a review of safety fences and hopefully something will come of this, and not just the fence itself, but what also goes on behind it. Many tracks allow the public far to close, whether that be a stand, walkway area etc The safest place to spectate from is the straights at any track. It doesn't matter if you are 1m, 5m or 20m away from the fence, there is still the chance that something will go over. In some cases it proves to be safer closer to the fence. As anyone knows, something flying through the air from a car always travels in a arc. It is the speed and initial height that determines the landing position. Look at the NZ Stockcars last season at Stratford when the peice of steel came off the 4c car and flew over the fence. That actually went over and behind the stand in turn one. If those stands had been 5 or 10m further back there would have been a greater chance that someone would have been hit. |
|
