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Post by The Dark One on Dec 2, 2009 11:52:49 GMT 12
Seems to be just this page.
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Post by Ricoshea on Dec 2, 2009 11:54:39 GMT 12
screen looks ok on this computer
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Post by Admin on Dec 2, 2009 11:55:44 GMT 12
I deleted a post and now it's ok?.
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Post by chris13w on Dec 2, 2009 12:00:49 GMT 12
Thanks - it had gone really weird and distorted - all good now  |
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Post by Flash on Dec 2, 2009 12:58:08 GMT 12
Not that it makes any difference to this discussion but 999d is not a CRX. It's a Honda Prelude (one of Jane Honda's old bodies actually). And I too was suprised when the purchaser told me he was building the car and intending to drive the rear wheels. I would also be sceptical that enough horsepower would be available from a H22a to make the car competitive (without spending heaps of course). Time will tell I guess. It's definately creating a reasonable discussion!
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Post by chris13w on Dec 2, 2009 13:13:53 GMT 12
That's funny - I'm sure he told me it was a CRX - but then I can't claim to know much about Honda's so I'm probably wrong!
BTW - did you track "Jane Honda" down, I saw you were searching for her on another post?
As someone who's raced both FWD and RWD Flash - do you think converting Jane Honda to RWD would have made her an even faster car?
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Post by The Dark One on Dec 2, 2009 15:12:02 GMT 12
It was stated in an earlier post that: Engines must be derived from original manufacture and the
number of cylinders that were originally fitted in that make and
model.
Could it be that the engine is from an early Honda S2000? These cars were rear wheel drive, so fits all the above rules. Same manufacturer, same number of cylinders, and positioned the same way as when it left the factory. Would also require no modifacations to the transmission. I dont know alot about Honda engines and what they look like so cant tell from the photo exactly what engine it is.
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Post by mike88g on Dec 2, 2009 16:36:37 GMT 12
It was stated in an earlier post that: Engines must be derived from original manufacture and the number of cylinders that were originally fitted in that make and model. Could it be that the engine is from an early Honda S2000? These cars were rear wheel drive, so fits all the above rules. Same manufacturer, same number of cylinders, and positioned the same way as when it left the factory. Would also require no modifacations to the transmission. I dont know alot about Honda engines and what they look like so cant tell from the photo exactly what engine it is. ".......same make and MODEL ?" S2000 was also convertible, so there is no way that that motor could be used because convertibles are not allowed, and fom memory that is the only RWD 4cyl Honda made. The motors are easily identified if you are familiar with the Hondas. Maybe some folk aren't, and couldn't tell them apart. |
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Post by blueman on Dec 2, 2009 16:38:32 GMT 12
I can assure you that this car is within the rules and does go very well it will only get faster as the vtech is not working at mo also a new driver . wingnut this is a factory motor it does not say in the rules that a east west motor must stay east west .This car has been greensheeted as a saloon and passed and has raced about four meetings now just let the guy race as said he is new to the sport and negativity is what will kill this sport.
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Post by chris13w on Dec 2, 2009 16:45:14 GMT 12
It was stated in an earlier post that: Engines must be derived from original manufacture and the number of cylinders that were originally fitted in that make and model. Could it be that the engine is from an early Honda S2000? These cars were rear wheel drive, so fits all the above rules. Same manufacturer, same number of cylinders, and positioned the same way as when it left the factory. Would also require no modifacations to the transmission. I dont know alot about Honda engines and what they look like so cant tell from the photo exactly what engine it is. ".......same make and MODEL?" S2000 was also convertible, so there is no way that that motor could be used because convertibles are not allowed, and fom memory that is the only RWD 4cyl Honda made. The motors are easily identified if you are familiar with the Hondas. Maybe some folk aren't, and couldn't tell them apart. The engine never has to be the same model - just the same manufacturer - and in this case number of cylinders. Ever seen a Monaro come out with an old cast iron headed 350 Chev?! |
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Post by chris13w on Dec 2, 2009 16:48:48 GMT 12
I can assure you that this car is within the rules and does go very well it will only get faster as the vtech is not working at mo also a new driver . wingnut this is a factory motor it does not say in the rules that a east west motor must stay east west .This car has been greensheeted as a saloon and passed and has raced about four meetings now just let the guy race as said he is new to the sport and negativity is what will kill this sport. Exactly as I keep saying - its been Green Sheeted by an SNZ official so it IS legal, no matter what anyone may think! And I'm certainly not knocking it - I'm saying lets encourage more of the same - its a great thing for the class - just what we need! |
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Post by The Dark One on Dec 2, 2009 17:20:57 GMT 12
It was stated in an earlier post that: Engines must be derived from original manufacture and the number of cylinders that were originally fitted in that make and model. Could it be that the engine is from an early Honda S2000? These cars were rear wheel drive, so fits all the above rules. Same manufacturer, same number of cylinders, and positioned the same way as when it left the factory. Would also require no modifacations to the transmission. I dont know alot about Honda engines and what they look like so cant tell from the photo exactly what engine it is. ".......same make and MODEL?" S2000 was also convertible, so there is no way that that motor could be used because convertibles are not allowed, and from memory that is the only RWD 4cyl Honda made. The motors are easily identified if you are familiar with the Hondas. Maybe some folk aren't, and couldn't tell them apart. Sorry   but I was only going on the rule provided. It states that engine must be from same MANUFACTURER and have same number of pistons. As far as I could tell from reading the rules, the convertable rule was for the type of body you were using? |
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Post by mike88g on Dec 2, 2009 18:14:21 GMT 12
".......same make and MODEL?" S2000 was also convertible, so there is no way that that motor could be used because convertibles are not allowed, and from memory that is the only RWD 4cyl Honda made. The motors are easily identified if you are familiar with the Hondas. Maybe some folk aren't, and couldn't tell them apart. Sorry but I was only going on the rule provided. It states that engine must be from same MANUFACTURER and have same number of pistons. As far as I could tell from reading the rules, the convertable rule was for the type of body you were using? From what I understood the rules to be, I totally agree with you. Same manufacturer and no. of cylinders. This all comes down to rule interpretation once again. Even with the rule book overhaul, there are still gaps that can be "massaged" to suit different ideas. |
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Post by 351 on Dec 2, 2009 19:27:47 GMT 12
Hell theres heaps of HT HG factory monaros with factory iron head 350's in them,even some later senator holden 350 ones,not chev. Cool too
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Post by japsuper on Dec 2, 2009 19:46:32 GMT 12
Massaging is good, but its not fair to let someone build a car and then decide its actually not what the rules were meant to say.( not that this appears to be the case )
So who does someone talk to to get the definative answer, so they dont waste their money and time. I guess its the tech comittee via SNZ ?
I would assume the SI Honda was built after checking first but anyway its been greensheeted now, so its all go for the FWD to RWD conversions.......YeeHaa... a new era of saloons is about to happen !!!
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Post by chris13w on Dec 2, 2009 20:35:27 GMT 12
Hell theres heaps of HT HG factory monaros with factory iron head 350's in them,even some later senator holden 350 ones,not chev. Cool too Haha - true that - but they're more than 20 years old - so you can't race one! (well, yes you can, this years dispensation allows that...) So what I'm talking about are the recent VZ Monaro's with the Gen III Chev V8 in them - which of course isn't legal in ANY saloon as its all alloy!!! Ditto with every Corvette since the C3 - you couldn't run their engines legally, so they all have the same old cast iron SBC in them for Saloon racing purposes - so nothing like the standard OEM spec other than the description "GM 8 cylinder"... |
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Post by nzf2stocks. on Dec 2, 2009 21:33:14 GMT 12
Hmmm, I'm thinking 3.0V6 VTEC in a Civic body. Would the Holden Alloytec V6 be legal? In a Combo? ;D
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Post by japsuper on Dec 2, 2009 21:43:29 GMT 12
Dontthink they made a 6 cylinder Civic ? so you would have to stick with 4, or go to Accord body for the V6.
Lots of options eh !!!!
Come-on tech people, give up the definative answer.
Might have to rattle a cage at SNZ.............
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Post by nzf2stocks. on Dec 2, 2009 21:50:22 GMT 12
It may be better not to involve SNZ, they may decide to correct the missing orientation rule  |
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Post by chris13w on Dec 2, 2009 22:11:48 GMT 12
Hmmm, I'm thinking 3.0V6 VTEC in a Civic body. Would the Holden Alloytec V6 be legal? In a Combo? ;D Does the Alloytec have 4 valves per cylinder? As if it does its not allowed (like the BA Barra Ford) - limit is 3015cc for 4 valve engines |
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but I was only going on the rule provided. It states that engine must be from same MANUFACTURER and have same number of pistons. As far as I could tell from reading the rules, the convertable rule was for the type of body you were using?
