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Post by chris13w on Dec 2, 2009 22:27:20 GMT 12
Dontthink they made a 6 cylinder Civic ? so you would have to stick with 4, or go to Accord body for the V6. Yep - would have to be an Accord or Legend to have a Honda V6... OR - you could use a Rover 45/MG ZS body shape (based on the Honda Domani, which is a type of Civic) if you wanted to go for a smaller body! |
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Post by chris13w on Dec 2, 2009 22:38:13 GMT 12
Going to be interesting to work out what will be the best choice engine - balancing:
Capacity/Tune ability/availability/cost effectiveness/ease of fitting a clutch/flywheel/RWD gearbox...
Of course every Japanese brand has a 2 litre DOHC 16 valve engine, as do Ford (Zetec) and Holden/Vauxhall - all easily available at reasonable cost - but they aren't big capacity...
Then most brands also have a V6 in the 3-3.5 litre range, many with multi cams and valves (but 4 valves not allowed over 3 litres)...
Then you have the big Holden and Ford 6's around the 3.8 to 4 litre range - and popular in Stockcars, so plenty being tuned already...
Or of course the big basic US V6's - like the Chev V6 and some big Ford ones...
Going to be fun working out all the possibilities then seeing what the best chassis is to put them in - something small and compact to keep the weight down (and hopefully attractive to look at)!
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Post by strx7 on Dec 3, 2009 5:35:32 GMT 12
Would the Holden Alloytec V6 be legal? In a Combo? ;D under the current rules, no. |
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Post by mike88g on Dec 3, 2009 5:56:07 GMT 12
From what I have seen, the smaller engines don't seem to have the horsepower to turn bigger race tyres like Hoosiers when in a RWD configuration. They seem OK when in FWD. So would there be any advantage in converting to RWD if this is the case?
How did the 999 car go?
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Post by Abb0 on Dec 3, 2009 6:45:17 GMT 12
As long as it's not in a Combie, vans aren't allowed  |
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Post by chris13w on Dec 3, 2009 8:23:26 GMT 12
From what I have seen, the smaller engines don't seem to have the horsepower to turn bigger race tyres like Hoosiers when in a RWD configuration. They seem OK when in FWD. So would there be any advantage in converting to RWD if this is the case? How did the 999 car go? Got up to 3rd (going past some V8's if I remember rightly) in the B main at the Blenheim DHL then it lost a tyre on the last lap so didn't qualify for the Main - was going well though. Haven't seen it race anywhere else. |
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Post by norotas on Dec 3, 2009 9:49:57 GMT 12
from what i have found out while in Dunedin during the DHL car was built and greensheeted by the same person.If the rice burners are going to start coming through give them their own class as like in drag racing and have a challenge with real cars during the season .They didnt last long at Bathurst more of a hinderance and cause more damage than what they are worth.Its like bringing back the minis ,1800,maxis thank god they are gone,open up productions and leave them there
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 10:12:13 GMT 12
They didnt last long at Bathurst more of a hinderance and cause more damage than what they are worth. Lol, you're havin a larf arent you? |
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Post by chris13w on Dec 3, 2009 10:19:03 GMT 12
I'm pretty sure there is more than enough room in most tracks Saloon fields for a few of these new RWD conversions - other than Baypark I don't think any tracks have TOO many Saloons do they?!
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Post by kevin61 on Dec 3, 2009 10:35:17 GMT 12
We ran a Honda CRX in the saloon class for four years in Auckland and Kihikihi, it had alot of money spent on the 2-2vtech and certainly wasn't short of power, but we did have problems with getting traction on alot, of track surfaces, It was competitive back then, but I think it would have been a lot better being rear wheel drive,and we would have done it if we were allowed to back then.
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Post by midget31s on Dec 3, 2009 17:34:48 GMT 12
any ideas as to what the 999 car has done to the diff etc as the vtec engines run in reverse ?
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Post by The Dark One on Dec 3, 2009 17:36:59 GMT 12
;D Turned it upside down ;D
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Post by mike88g on Dec 3, 2009 20:11:39 GMT 12
any ideas as to what the 999 car has done to the diff etc as the vtec engines run in reverse ? I was goig to ask the same thing. Do these run a 1:1 diff and use the standard gears? or how do they do it? |
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Post by chris13w on Dec 3, 2009 20:19:32 GMT 12
I didn't look - but I would say the turned upside down idea would be the easiest? (Can't put the R&P in backwards on a QC diff can you, to reverse direction)??
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Post by steve on Dec 4, 2009 5:52:26 GMT 12
the diff has the crown wheel changed over to the other side. sounds easy not!!! A lot of thought has gone into this car and it is totaly legal.
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Post by nzf2stocks. on Dec 4, 2009 17:05:23 GMT 12
One of the small Pontiacs (Le Mans?) with a midgit based 2.7l engine.
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Post by chris13w on Dec 4, 2009 20:51:15 GMT 12
One of the small Pontiacs (Le Mans?) with a midgit based 2.7l engine. The Pontiac Le Man's was just a Daewoo built Vauxhall/Opel/Holden Astra - so any Astra type GM vehicle would be the same. The XE/Ecotec GM DOHC 16 Valve engines are pretty popular for RWD transplants into things like Escorts and Anglia's in the UK (instead of Zetec's - lighter I think??), so would be a good option too. I think Cosworth originally designed the head - so sort of like a more modern Ford BDA!  |
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