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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Dec 12, 2009 8:39:45 GMT 12
 A new and excellent track surface, thanks to excavations taking place at the Rotorua Hospital, greeted the 16 saloons that turned up, along with of and on drizzle (which continued in to the night)!    Another Brockelsby ...   Unlike Baypark, visiting drivers are made welcome, espesially so with the SNZ North Island champs in a couple of weeks. Perhaps it's past time when tracks treated Baypark registered cars the same as they treat others.
They support their promoters attitude by doing nothing?  Dummy grid Saloon heat 1 and a lap of the excellent new track surface ...A race start using the 'increasingly common' grid ONE sets the pace format.Problem is, they don't tell all the competitors ...  Certainly helps a lot ...    Not a good time or place for an oil change ... Sending a text to the ref perhaps  ... 
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Post by Speedway Central (David) on Dec 12, 2009 9:22:17 GMT 12
Murray what happened to 13r as missed what happened, just seen you sliding off to safety on infeild
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Post by chris56 on Dec 12, 2009 10:18:12 GMT 12
mmmm 89r mmmm 96r
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Dec 12, 2009 11:48:05 GMT 12
Murray what happened to 13r as missed what happened, just seen you sliding off to safety on infeild Surprise, surprise, you're not on your own. ;D The infield was certainly the safest place, sharing the track with a few 'headless chooks', although the ref disagreed. Got called up for a chat after my 'incident' and was reminded of the rule to stay in the car in the infield (as it's dangerous). I think I can feel an event nomination withdraw coming on!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 14:06:17 GMT 12
Mr Guy , Your comments regarding tracks turning away Baypark registered cars is totally ridiculous . Are you trying to stir up a hornets nest among the competitors of this sport . Some of us visit this site and watch you constantly bagging the promoter of Baypark , plus the officials and facility. one does not have to have a very big IQ rating to workout why you are not made welcome at Baypark.
Some of us are sick and tired of listening to you ..
Leave the running of tracks to the promotions
Its only a matter of time before people who have had enough of your garbage and will retaliate by rubbishing your own registered track. Which will be totally unfair on them..
So keep your differences to yourself and enjoy this site and the sport as well..
I have attended many many meetings at Baypark , over the last few seasons ,and can recall seeing good numbers of outside cars racing there.
Because you are not allowed , Well i guess you only have yourself to blame..
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Post by tank11 on Dec 12, 2009 14:11:52 GMT 12
Ohh dear,
If a track has a national or island championship that season, they should be MADE to accommodate ALL drivers in that class, that season.
Even if they have to run 2 smaller fields.
Unless individually barred from the track, for whatever reason.
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Post by Speedway Central (David) on Dec 12, 2009 14:12:55 GMT 12
Mr Guy , Your comments regarding tracks turning away Baypark registered cars is totally ridiculous . Are you trying to stir up a hornets nest among the competitors of this sport . Some of us visit this site and watch you constantly bagging the promoter of Baypark , plus the officials and facility. one does not have to have a very big IQ rating to workout why you are not made welcome at Baypark. Some of us are sick and tired of listening to you .. Leave the running of tracks to the promotions Its only a matter of time before people who have had enough of your garbage and will retaliate by rubbishing your own registered track. Which will be totally unfair on them.. So keep your differences to yourself and enjoy this site and the sport as well.. I have attended many many meetings at Baypark , over the last few seasons ,and can recall seeing good numbers of outside cars racing there. Because you are not allowed , Well i guess you only have yourself to blame.. very strange first post. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 14:16:33 GMT 12
Tank 11 , From what i have seen , most outside competitors are welcome to race at Baypark.If you want to go out of your way to rubbish a promoter , it would be little wonder you were not welcome to race at his track.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 14:24:15 GMT 12
Not really David .. Taking a shot at Baypark once again , when commenting on something totally different is what i thought was strange ..
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Post by MadMarty13B on Dec 12, 2009 15:12:14 GMT 12
According to another post Willy has just turned away Auckland sprintcars that travelled down?
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Post by percy on Dec 12, 2009 15:47:43 GMT 12
Ohh dear, If a track has a national or island championship that season, they should be MADE to accommodate ALL drivers in that class, that season. Even if they have to run 2 smaller fields. Unless individually barred from the track, for whatever reason. So you would like to see club members be stood down so drivers from other tracks can come along for a skid prior to a championship??? And you don't want the same logic applied to Grand Prix, Teams or International events? |
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Post by kevin61 on Dec 12, 2009 16:08:27 GMT 12
I think it is great that you guys stick up for your track and promoter. (Willie), but I think you are a bit short on facts. We are one of many that have been turned away from Bay Park. On our way to Napier for a Sunday meeting we decided to ring Willie and ask if we could run their on the Saturday, but were told the fields were full. We decided to call in and watch anyway, to find out his full field was 14 cars. This has happened to many others as well.
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Dec 12, 2009 16:35:02 GMT 12
More competitors means more spectators and crew $'s for the caterer, for the promotion, perhaps even Council as owners (that might be pushing it)? BP has been often finishing prior to 10pm, with 15 plus minutes to spare. To deny visiting saloons the opportunity to race at BP when the track is to host the Saloon NZ Champs is surely not unreasonable and very easy to accomodate, if the will existed, which it doesn't! Two groups with two heats and one 'all-in final', putting a time limit on each race. Reduce races by one lap. Plenty of options of the BP wanted to at least appear to be fair to fellow competitors. To host a championship event in any class and deliberately choose to deny access to the track by potential competitors is a B disgrace!  And this isn't about Willy Kay, ... it's about speedway competitors getting treated with respect, getting treated fairly! It's about the survival of Baypark Speedway. Super Stocks gone, stocks nearly gone! If folk don't pull their head out of the sand (or some other dark place) soon, when they do they'll find themselves in a very lonely space! Rotorua Club Night, $5 entry, 7 or so classes racing on an awesome track at a club run facility - Pick away!  |
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Post by tank11 on Dec 12, 2009 22:37:02 GMT 12
With out getting into a cat fight.
When a track applies for a championship, one criteria is to be accommodating to competitors in that class that season, or don't apply.
Simple really.
Never been there, so no personal axe to grind.
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Post by Crank on Dec 14, 2009 11:37:50 GMT 12
Perhaps it's past time when tracks treated Baypark registered cars the same as they treat others.
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Fair call... i think the point there Highrevz, and is relevant to this thread is that there where a few "M" saloons at Rotovegas on Friday night(as pictured).... in fact there seem to be alot of M saloons traveling these days... maybe if they where treated the same as the visiting drivers to there track it may open there eyes abit..... |
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Dec 14, 2009 12:31:33 GMT 12
... I have attended many many meetings at Baypark, over the last few seasons ,and can recall seeing good numbers of outside cars racing there ...
Your understanding of the situation is way short of reality and in part, contributes to it's decline. The ONLY meeting that has seen GOOD numbers (more than a handful) off visiting saloons would have been for the Saloon NZGP to which entries cannot be refused, thankfully.My concerns aren't motivated by a perception I might be disadvantaged - I can travel and do so, 50 meetings a year. Many are not so fortunate and for them I am very concerned! 4 classes and they are declining at BP when the rest of the country either holds it's numbers or grows. This is despite having the best facility, in the greatest town, at very affordable lease terms. There has been very few saloons race at Baypark over recent seasons, other than those contracted there, and they (like others classes) are in decline. |
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Post by nomad on Dec 14, 2009 13:48:19 GMT 12
Sycophantic egotists are fuelled by self interest.
Denial is a politicians stock in trade.
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Post by The Observer on Dec 14, 2009 14:51:06 GMT 12
Egotist may be applicable - but sycophantic may not on this occasion? In fact, the people welding influence (Willie) are receiving far from flattery according to Cr Guys post.
As for the politicians - well you can't argue with that one. I guess since a poli is outspoken, with a profile accusations will be hurled.
Pity is, those hurling remain cloistered in the ether, which fails to clarify there position or perspective.
Either way, it sounds like Rotorua was a good night - and it sounds like Baypark may have struggled.
Interestingly enough Greymouth had more stockcars than Baypark at their last meeting. Maybe the recession is starting to bite for the budget contact classes.
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Post by bald 81m on Dec 14, 2009 15:53:59 GMT 12
I agree with every thing u say Murray.If ind myself tracing and flying to watch meetings that put on a show not the same show week after week.drop a class and have super stocks or midgets or modifieds saloon teams something different.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 16:22:14 GMT 12
No Murray , It was more in response to you looking for every oportunity to take a shot at BayPark or Willie Kay himself. You say this is not about Willie Kay . Why do you refer to Baypark as Willies sandpit. Is that not having a dig at him. It is not hard to workout why you are turned away from Baypark. You chose to leave Baypark and register elsewhere . Baypark obviously has its problems , and i guess its up to them to sort them out. But i feel that your constant mud slinging is not doing any favours.
BayParks system of running meetings every weekend at the beginning of the season is one problem i am aware of , as competitors are unable financialy to have their cars race ready week in week out .With xmas looming , lets face it who can afford to , and how many people have the dollars to go and watch also.
Me biased , Not really . Probably speaking on behalf of the many Baypark people who are sick and tired of you dishing the crap on their track. Remember , You are turning people against Baypark not helping the cause , or is that your agenda..
Hell if you get pinged by an official at Baypark , you have to let the the whole speedway world know ,instead of taking it on the chin like most do lol..
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A new and excellent track surface, thanks to excavations taking place at the Rotorua Hospital,
Another Brockelsby ...
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And this isn't about Willy Kay, ...
