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Post by stockieaddict on Jan 4, 2010 11:15:28 GMT 12
It was great to see James Soane do so well in his first season.
A comment our family have made is that people whom race at Palmy for most of their racing career especially when starting out have to handle the tight corners and narrow track compared to others with a larger more forgiving track and race the best drivers week in week out they learn fast.
This is why palmy producers good drivers, which in turn makes big numbers and more want to contract their for better racing. Palmy has good local support from track , fans and a good promoter.
Now before the smash the P stuff starts, I am not making this comment to make Palmy cars look better than the rest, Their are some outstanding drivers at other tracks.
I agree, with other posts if you race the good cars week in week out it helps in big championships. James Soane is a perfect example as well as having a fast on pace ex collingwood car.
Way to go James keep it up at NZ's.
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 4, 2010 11:32:05 GMT 12
1 4B Joe Faram Superstock 21 25 25 71 2 591 Wayne Hemi Superstock 24 21 26 71 3 10P Peter Rees Superstock 17 26 23 66 4 93P James Sloane Superstock 23 14 21 58 5 515 Stan Hickey Superstock 18 23 16 57 6 31P Andy McCabe Superstock 25 9 20 54 7 89R Dale Robertson Superstock 15 19 14 48 8 38R Ross Ashby Superstock 6 20 18 44 9 52P Scott Joblin Superstock 20 24 0 44 10 24B Gary Foley Superstock 9 10 24 43 11 35H Dion Fraser Superstock 19 6 17 42 12 72P Simon Joblin Superstock 26 15 0 41 13 135 Scott Hewson Superstock 22 16 0 38 14 23H Lance Ashton Superstock 0 12 22 34 15 95P Clive Elliot Superstock 11 22 0 33 16 19R Andrew Harvey Superstock 0 13 19 32 17 28H Glen Drabble Superstock 14 18 0 32 18 42P Robin Davenport Superstock 10 0 15 25 19 7B Shane Mellsop Superstock 0 8 13 21 20 6K Kerry Remnant Superstock 13 7 0 20 21 16B Steve Jude Superstock 8 11 0 19 22 5P Bruce Ward Superstock 0 17 0 17 23 7P Shane Penn Superstock 16 0 0 16 24 9B Adam Groome Superstock 12 0 0 12 25 5K Brad Ridland Superstock 7 0 0 7 26 10B Sam Bartholomew Superstock 5 0 0 5
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Post by Admin on Jan 4, 2010 11:32:12 GMT 12
I haven't seen the posts that were deleted from this thread but I can imagine their quality, ah the parochial passions aroused by nz's most popular speedway class.
The Superstock racing at Meeanee was good with a fair number of spectacular incidents thrown in for good measure .
Most of the incidents came about because a bunch of hard chargers were all chasing the same prize and although I can't claim to be witness to it all I don't think I saw a car seriously attack another at all over the two nights. Some stuff just happens and I'm happy to watch it .
Poor programing of events meant the first heat of the superstocks didn't start until well after 8pm and when that happened we all knew we were in for another of those late finishes .
as for the eventual winner , Joe Farem was quick and probably drove the best I have ever seen him drive . Wayne Hemi likewise is right on the money with his 'I'm here to win attitude' and is still a major force to be reckoned with . Peter Rees although appearing to struggle with the pace stayed focussed enough to earn his third place . Well done to all three .
I'm not going to comment on the protesting side of things and apart from the top three there were plenty of good performances that went unrewarded.
The biggest downside was the dust , I dare say even the drivers struggled with it .
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Post by bingsta on Jan 4, 2010 11:37:20 GMT 12
have to agree with stockieaddict on his last comment,James drove smart and well.Shame the other palmy guys didnt help get palmy home 1,2,3 could of easily been done.Oh well what comes around goes around I guess.Like I have said before,you dont need to wreck yours and other peoples cars to do it.
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Post by BarryB on Jan 4, 2010 12:40:15 GMT 12
The final, hopefully all present and correct, results sheet showing grids, results, points, passes and placings So had Scott Joblin won the last, he started ahead of both Hemi and Faram, instead of his DNF, it would have been a 3 way run-off for first. Ifs and buts huh......
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Post by stockynut on Jan 4, 2010 12:53:13 GMT 12
just home, great nights racing, best of all Joe picked up the win. as for the protest, personally what a joke, 591 moved under reads in both heats 1 & 2 and certainly seemed to try and make up extra places (how many times have we seen that now) - put back in ht 1 after leaving the track and trying to rejoin in a totally different position, in ht 2, 591 went to the grass during a long stoppage. not the only car to do it either during the night. most disappointing sight in ht 3 was to see 7B continue to circulate at pace despite being down on points, would have thought support your club mate and all the red waka would have been a target ? IT maskes me laugh readn a comment bout 7b shane mellsop not helping other bay cars in last race, Wasn't that long ago shane had NO HELP IN H/B CHAMPS But still managed to finnish 3rd, So wat comes round goes around ??
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Post by sup100 on Jan 4, 2010 13:52:56 GMT 12
The racing was hard and fast with a big roll by one of the Joblin boys. But what a joke!!! Wayne Hemi no clutch? Lala pushed you off the start line fair enough but the two red lights when the Jobin boys were taken out the waka dug its paddles in and flew off the mark...I would like to see the waka with a clutch then!!
Joe Faram your car looks good and is one of the fastest on the track no arguments with that but sori Mr Hemi had every right to protest red light means stop! end of story!! Joe said power steering fluid was leaking and he moved so his car didnt catch on fire well sorry you can't, red means stop! shut your car off and get your car removed from the track. S@#* happens thats motor racing.
Peter Rees raced good and James Sloane 93p, never heard of him before the north island champs. Hes got a fast car and he can drive it, one to watch at the NZ.
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Post by Naki on Jan 4, 2010 14:15:39 GMT 12
Ever think hemis clutch burnt out AFTER the race sup100 lol
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Post by fordzrule on Jan 4, 2010 14:28:23 GMT 12
Why no Palmy support for fellow Palmy cars,maybe those based there are true Palmy cars not imports lol.And with a huge amount of cars qualifying there will be alliegence to those who have helped in passed,and pretty sure Hemi has helped fellow mates win NZ titles in the passed,thinking back 4 or so years ago.
Hell I can recall at the time the president of a club telling(not asking)for support for his nephew before the 1st heat in finals had started from fellow competitors,met with comment from a couple of us,wait and see after first heat,and when has ... helped us,so even though you have heaps of P,S,H,R or whatever in finals,you can't guarantee help from fellow clubmates,respect has to be earned,not a given.
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Post by superstocknut on Jan 4, 2010 14:34:19 GMT 12
Ever think hemis clutch burnt out AFTER the race sup100 lol hemi stated in his speech that he needed a push off the line, he also said to me in the pits that he lost it in race 2, couldnt change gears in 3. go figure, id like to know what that car will take off like with a clutch if thats the case.
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Post by Couch racer on Jan 4, 2010 14:45:10 GMT 12
Good battery and starter maybe???
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Post by peter46s on Jan 4, 2010 14:48:31 GMT 12
I see the knockers are still going.Why? may be some of yous should get a superstock yourselfs and put up or shut up.every year these cars go faster and faster and more often than not we see the ambo out on track. there are more drivers than ever that give up the sport because of serious injurys. or worse ie peter barry.as much as i like to see the carnage they cannot do it week in and week out.If the refs dont pull the drivers up after a race and the driver gets away with bully for him. dont trash the Guys On a good note good to see the girls coming through one from rotorua at this comp who i thought went well good on ya "GIRL"
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Post by Couch racer on Jan 4, 2010 14:56:33 GMT 12
Any results for the second tier event?
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Post by cully on Jan 4, 2010 14:58:27 GMT 12
Congrats to Joe for the win couldn't go to a more deserving competitor and well done to Pete showing once again what a awesome all rounder he is
As for the flack the joblins seem to be getting i don't understand why. They are doing what many have done over the years and choosing compete at the highest level week in week out and probably at a financial gain, good on them if so. I don't seem to recall Barry Podjursky getting this much rubbish for doing the same thing or Shane Penn for a current example.
Cant wait to see how the next few weeks unfold I'm sure there is gunna be plenty of payback coming
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Post by m8sr8z on Jan 4, 2010 15:03:41 GMT 12
52p nailed by 16b, who rolled, so both Joblins out Faram possible in trouble too Correct , correct and correct.(power steering gone) Am i correct correct correct in Tank11 trying to get his post count up. Never seen over 8posts on a thread at a time one after the other. Great work
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Post by 8c Ministock on Jan 4, 2010 15:20:42 GMT 12
WOW we are up to 19 pages for the NI"s , i hate to think what the NZ's are going to be?? should we have TAB odds on it..
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Post by alloyplatypus on Jan 4, 2010 15:42:57 GMT 12
most disappointing sight in ht 3 was to see 7B continue to circulate at pace despite being down on points, would have thought support your club mate and all the red waka would have been a target ? IT maskes me laugh readn a comment bout 7b shane mellsop not helping other bay cars in last race, Wasn't that long ago shane had NO HELP IN H/B CHAMPS But still managed to finnish 3rd, So wat comes round goes around ?? yeah til someone winds off their clubmate after the flag, then packs a sad and heads to Palmy.. just like the Hawkes Bays best Superstock export.
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Post by carwrecker on Jan 4, 2010 16:01:36 GMT 12
With regards to the issue of red lights and the protest it brings up the fact once again that many competitors and officials do not know their rule book . Faram moved under reds in the final heat ,He was not instructed to move by infield staff or SNZ officials, therefore he broke the rules. Hemi chose to protest as is his rite to do so,he did it within the time frame allowed ( within 10 minutes of the race result being posted). It is correct hemi moved under reds in an earlier heat however he was not relegated by the SNZ officials nor was he protested by another competitor, therefore it can not be bought up at a latter time when a protest is being considered for something that happened in another race. Our sport is never going to go any where or will it ever become more professional as long as this kind of stuff happens . I would think should Hemi chose to appeal this he would (should be successful) The official concerned needs to get a kick in the butt and be sent back to official school.
And before any body starts ranting I have no particular interest in who won the deal or came second , it was agood nights racing marred by poor decision making on the part of the people sent to run the meeting
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 4, 2010 16:08:22 GMT 12
Any results for the second tier event? It was just consolation races with 11 /10 cars more wanted to run but SNZ would not allow it as they did not run the night before even though it was just consolations the entry form stipulated the criteria of having to race in the qualifying to be able to run in the consolations so SNZ had to run with the entry form hence why there were only 11 in the consos
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 4, 2010 16:18:03 GMT 12
With regards to the issue of red lights and the protest it brings up the fact once again that many competitors and officials do not know their rule book . Faram moved under reds in the final heat ,He was not instructed to move by infield staff or SNZ officials, therefore he broke the rules. Hemi chose to protest as is his rite to do so,he did it within the time frame allowed ( within 10 minutes of the race result being posted). It is correct hemi moved under reds in an earlier heat however he was not relegated by the SNZ officials nor was he protested by another competitor, therefore it can not be bought up at a latter time when a protest is being considered for something that happened in another race. Our sport is never going to go any where or will it ever become more professional as long as this kind of stuff happens . I would think should Hemi chose to appeal this he would (should be successful) The official concerned needs to get a kick in the butt and be sent back to official school. And before any body starts ranting I have no particular interest in who won the deal or came second , it was agood nights racing marred by poor decision making on the part of the people sent to run the meeting The moral of this story could be in the future to protest Hemi because he sure is going to protest you which every driver will be aware of now re Hemi moving i heat 1 and 2 under the reds. Faram doing what he did gained no advantage whatsoever so justice was probably served I would say the same thing if Faram was Hemi and emi was Faram.Regardless of Hemi not being protestested in heat 1 and 2 it still broke the rules so would have been unjust really if the protest against Faram was upheld. The Red light issue needs real tidying up at the HB champs they enforced it strict anyone moved they were pulled from the race which is what happened to Simon Joblin but alas a third of the rest of the field were not pulled that is where the rule fails. they cannot watch everyone they need more staff to police it properly you cannot pull someone from a race and not others for breaking the same rule.
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