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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 17, 2010 19:48:21 GMT 12
Why is it that when the weather plays funny buggers with tracks up and down the country and rains out certain events (World 240's, Stockcar Teams, provincial championships), that people instantly BLAME the CLUB hosting it and their systems?
I mean, it is something that seems to be happening a lot this year cos the weather plain sucks, but its something that can't be controlled, and then the Club has to race around organising refunds/replacement tickets/ rain out passes and they have to do so immediately... a decision like that isn't made lightly and I don't think they should all be harangued for it!
Go the Speedway Clubs of New Zealand... I think you do a superb job of organising events!!!
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Post by rageykiwi on Jan 17, 2010 20:12:28 GMT 12
Maybe it seems it maybe a backlash of overall costs has a whole, acc levies going up,
Fuel prices floating around,
Overall costs of living go up
then An E.T.S scam ,taxing the air kicking in july ,jobs being like gold
ETC
People will moan about many things,
the weather plays up at the same time .
Combination of a few things in this P.C day & age.
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 17, 2010 20:22:50 GMT 12
Yeah maybe... it just sucks that its the clubs that cop the crap from unhappy people...  |
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Post by Speedway Central (David) on Jan 17, 2010 20:34:52 GMT 12
Being a Club member at Rotorua and Kihikihi I choose Kihikihi today as knew there would be good crowd support at Rotorua so all I was saying that it was a shame there were no Rainpasses but hey thats Speedway. The only loser today would have been Kihikihi as only 7 Superstock could make it, but hey they seen the further improvement to track
As the song goes
Blame it on the Rain.
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 17, 2010 20:39:00 GMT 12
Yeah conflicting racing can play hell with decision making  Bloody weather! loL! Good racing at KK was it though? |
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 17, 2010 20:46:36 GMT 12
I wasn't really in touch yesterday, but saying there were no rain passes and there was a free meet was fine, but if today didn't go ahead then wouldn't have vegas speedway made a killing from not holding a meet.
I thort if a meet was postponed with in the first 3 - 5 races then a rain out pass should be issued.
Did they run 6 races b4 calling it?
Not an issue now as they run today.
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Post by peter46s on Jan 17, 2010 20:51:26 GMT 12
Why is it that when the weather plays funny buggers with tracks up and down the country and rains out certain events (World 240's, Stockcar Teams, provincial championships), that people instantly BLAME the CLUB hosting it and their systems? I mean, it is something that seems to be happening a lot this year cos the weather plain sucks, but its something that can't be controlled, and then the Club has to race around organising refunds/replacement tickets/ rain out passes and they have to do so immediately... a decision like that isn't made lightly and I don't think they should all be harangued for it! Go the Speedway Clubs of New Zealand... I think you do a superb job of organising events!!! Ill stick my neck out again.rights peoples rights I and others work hard for our money .this club had rain off a month ago,comments were made on this site you think powers to be would figure it out.i took the loss in the hope they would.but 4 weeks later here we go again it rained from approx 6 on mist rain they were still taking money up till call off.at time off wheel challenge it was clear it was in doubt .if you got at 6.50 (as exp) then told 20min later sorry come back tomorrow how would you feel??and if you working tomorrow??.even if next day is free come Monday if we approach club its our word against theres how do they no we were not there?? and so it go,s on .If you buy a product and get home and its broken i bet you go back and sort it? I'm a person that if you do wrong by me look out an eye for an eye sort OFF cra? u expect from governemt dept. not people i spend a lot of money and expense to support The money is nothing give It to st johns they do a good job But 4gods sake sort it out .And if you don't like this reply bad luck ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Speedway Central (David) on Jan 17, 2010 20:53:04 GMT 12
I wasn't really in touch yesterday, but saying there were no rain passes and there was a free meet was fine, but if today didn't go ahead then wouldn't have vegas speedway made a killing from not holding a meet. I thort if a meet was postponed with in the first 3 - 5 races then a rain out pass should be issued. Did they run 6 races b4 calling it? Not an issue now as they run today. 10,000 people at $25 = $250,000 |
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Post by rageykiwi on Jan 17, 2010 21:01:28 GMT 12
Quite strange really, as i am also a season pass member,
Rain was packing in a few times car park was getting full people were still going through the gates,
Pitstop challenge was going on around 5.30 approx and i looked up & still people were going through the car park & gates,
So if i was coming to park in the car park and looked at the rain i would have said "is it worth my 25 bucks" to be rained off?
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Post by dreamer on Jan 17, 2010 21:02:10 GMT 12
Hey BopWaikato (david) Did you get the results for today waiting up stairs for you??
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Jan 17, 2010 21:03:19 GMT 12
Goes to show the dedication and support people are willing to put into these clubs.
Now if only some of the clubs would return the favour (in this case with rain passes etc..)
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 17, 2010 21:04:23 GMT 12
Why is it that when the weather plays funny buggers with tracks up and down the country and rains out certain events (World 240's, Stockcar Teams, provincial championships), that people instantly BLAME the CLUB hosting it and their systems? I mean, it is something that seems to be happening a lot this year cos the weather plain sucks, but its something that can't be controlled, and then the Club has to race around organising refunds/replacement tickets/ rain out passes and they have to do so immediately... a decision like that isn't made lightly and I don't think they should all be harangued for it! Go the Speedway Clubs of New Zealand... I think you do a superb job of organising events!!! Ill stick my neck out again.rights peoples rights I and others work hard for our money .this club had rain off a month ago,comments were made on this site you think powers to be would figure it out.i took the loss in the hope they would.but 4 weeks later here we go again it rained from approx 6 on mist rain they were still taking money up till call off.at time off wheel challenge it was clear it was in doubt .if you got at 6.50 (as exp) then told 20min later sorry come back tomorrow how would you feel??and if you working tomorrow??.even if next day is free come Monday if we approach club its our word against theres how do they no we were not there?? and so it go,s on .If you buy a product and get home and its broken i bet you go back and sort it? I'm a person that if you do wrong by me look out an eye for an eye sort OFF cra? u expect from governemt dept. not people i spend a lot of money and expense to support The money is nothing give It to st johns they do a good job But 4gods sake sort it out .And if you don't like this reply bad luck ;D ;D ;D Yeah I agree, people do work hard for their money but there have been occasions when EVERY track in New Zealand has been affected by adverse weather at some point throughout the season. I have been caught out with the weather down here in Wellington with the Teams champs but I didn't go and make remarks about the Wellington people.. I think they did well to rally as they did at that time of the year. So now I'm sure Rotorua will know for next time.. whenever they are due to hold a championship next that they would plan ahead for the eventuality of rain. |
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Post by peter46s on Jan 17, 2010 21:15:34 GMT 12
Ill stick my neck out again.rights peoples rights I and others work hard for our money .this club had rain off a month ago,comments were made on this site you think powers to be would figure it out.i took the loss in the hope they would.but 4 weeks later here we go again it rained from approx 6 on mist rain they were still taking money up till call off.at time off wheel challenge it was clear it was in doubt .if you got at 6.50 (as exp) then told 20min later sorry come back tomorrow how would you feel??and if you working tomorrow??.even if next day is free come Monday if we approach club its our word against theres how do they no we were not there?? and so it go,s on .If you buy a product and get home and its broken i bet you go back and sort it? I'm a person that if you do wrong by me look out an eye for an eye sort OFF cra? u expect from governemt dept. not people i spend a lot of money and expense to support The money is nothing give It to st johns they do a good job But 4gods sake sort it out .And if you don't like this reply bad luck ;D ;D ;D Yeah I agree, people do work hard for their money but there have been occasions when EVERY track in New Zealand has been affected by adverse weather at some point throughout the season. I have been caught out with the weather down here in Wellington with the Teams champs but I didn't go and make remarks about the Wellington people.. I think they did well to rally as they did at that time of the year. So now I'm sure Rotorua will know for next time.. whenever they are due to hold a championship next that they would plan ahead for the eventuality of rain. Not just champs pantherfan all meets.this not just a dig at Rotoura its should be noted by all clubs |
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 17, 2010 21:25:20 GMT 12
Yeah I get that... I was just saying that Teams Champs was a perfect example in Wellington at the end of last year of how a club could rally well and that it was thought out not just a spur of the moment thing
And yay for my [glow=red,2,300]100th[/glow] post!!!!!!
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Post by sonic33 on Jan 17, 2010 21:43:23 GMT 12
Usually a club has a 4-6 race programme before a meeting can be called. For a meet to be called, prior to a race being held, and a free meet the following day announced seems strange to me.
As I said in another thread, what would happen if today did not run? Lots of bucks for vegas and still a meeting to run at sum stage. Would they charge again. I think so.
Usually Rotorua are top notch. For this meet I think they Lacked.
Sonja, what would have happened if today wasn't possible to run. What would rotoruas' stance be?
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Post by eddiek on Jan 17, 2010 22:19:47 GMT 12
I recall this happenning a few years ago with the NZ Minisprint Champs at Paradise Valley - must have been 06/07 - and the same policy applied then as it did today.
This is nothing new to Rotorua and appears to have been the policy for a while now.
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 17, 2010 22:21:49 GMT 12
it was going to be run Monday 7pm
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Post by penman on Jan 18, 2010 8:35:58 GMT 12
Is it a lack of communication that's an issue here?
No-one seems to know what the policy was, what the rain passes situation was, when/where/why/how, yada yada yada.
There will always be some peeved people who take out the frustration of the rain on a club hosting an event, but most of us understand that's a possibility with the sport.
However, would people (on the whole) been more comfortable if they had actually known what was going on given the rain situation and the rescheduling?
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Post by sharky on Jan 18, 2010 9:21:58 GMT 12
Usually a club has a 4-6 race programme before a meeting can be called. For a meet to be called, prior to a race being held, and a free meet the following day announced seems strange to me. As I said in another thread, what would happen if today did not run? Lots of bucks for vegas and still a meeting to run at sum stage. Would they charge again. I think so. Usually Rotorua are top notch. For this meet I think they Lacked. Sonja, what would have happened if today wasn't possible to run. What would rotoruas' stance be? Why does a track make more money if there's a rain out? I thought they would be out of pocket no hotdog and drink sales etc and there staff will still get paid some wages as they would obvously be there ready to go well before the start time of the meeting preparing things etc. And as for the earlier post about still taking gates sales until it was called off. Of course they would! anyone going in can look at the sky or weather forecast and make there own mind up if it's worth the risk of getting wet or not. People aren't thick they know full well if they can make it there the next day or not if it does get called off before they hand over there hard earned cash. I think tracks get a hard time weather is not in there control! |
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Post by fatboyracer on Jan 18, 2010 11:39:24 GMT 12
wow this has gone a long way off topic
but dont worry ill fix it
Why is it.......... people dont put the right heading on posts , this one for eg.. refunds for rain outs , or well done speedway clubs,
then people who may want questions answered ,like the question for Sonya H may read them
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