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Post by Couch racer on Feb 6, 2012 18:24:19 GMT 12
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Post by sherman on Feb 6, 2012 18:25:12 GMT 12
if they ban alcohol then more idoits are going to get liqored up before the event more security and a maybe a limit of 2 cans
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Post by Skorp on Feb 6, 2012 18:30:11 GMT 12
Palmie vs Rebels: The call by the Palmie (yes he is Palmie) Senior ref to the (Rotorua) ref through the radio placing the cars after the rollover was wrong, and Bengston was given 5-6 car lengths. Was it deliberate? Only he knows that. However it didn't effect the result. Bengston was a couple of car lengths ahead of the 2 rebels guys before the rollover and barring a bad restart had it in the bag with 150m to go. All the Ref did was give him some room if he mucked up the restart  I think you mean Rees, Bengston was the Panther that got rolled earlier in the race The Ref had a couple of cars parked for mechanical issues. Firstly its not the Ref that makes technical calls, he makes racing calls. If a car looses a bonnet that is not a racing issue, and actually its not a technical issue either. I think its a safety issue, without the bonnet there is a greater risk of something from inside the engine bay flying into the crowd and hitting someone, which is something that the ref should be concerned about. I have no idea which official made the call on those mechanical issues, but when its a safety issue, it should matter Gutted that Nelson was too beaten up to up a fight in the final but Same here. While I'm thrilled that the Panthers won, I was pretty disappointed that the final was as good as it could have been. |
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Post by fearless on Feb 6, 2012 18:31:13 GMT 12
if they ban alcohol then more idoits are going to get liqored up before the event more security and a maybe a limit of 2 cans \ Don't let them in. |
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Post by Skorp on Feb 6, 2012 18:40:10 GMT 12
if they ban alcohol then more idoits are going to get liqored up before the event more security and a maybe a limit of 2 cans \ Don't let them in. Exactly. Also, there is already a limit to how much you can buy at once, intoxicated people won't be served. But when its the sober driver going and buying for their mates, there's not a lot that you can do other than ban it outright. |
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Post by alloyplatypus on Feb 6, 2012 18:47:20 GMT 12
Ok, just to throw a really big spanner in the works. Why is it that Palmy never pull off repeat wins @ Auckland Teams nationals like they do down there? For all you P supporters are you able to explain this. Also, alot of other sport codes use a video ref, why can't this be the same in speedway? It would also take away all the confusion over where cars are positioned when red lights come on, etc... Huh? I think Palmy have won in Auckland for 6 years straight?.. and to top it off Rees was on the winning Waikato team the year before that. |
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Post by Bulletfan on Feb 6, 2012 18:51:36 GMT 12
dosnt matter if the 2 rotorua car were right behind rees he was already in turn three on the last lap so it not not mean much... i want to know they pulled the nelson tank off for his bonnet bring out a red light but they did not bri ng bengston off then his body parts brought out a red light????any know what the deal was there and how was rees car aloud to carry on after the fire crew put the fire out?  |
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Post by tony27 on Feb 6, 2012 19:02:41 GMT 12
Look at the Wellington Rugby Sevens, 31000 people of that 28 evictions and no arrest this year, compaired to last year 76 evictions, 16 arrests. they are taking security and enjoyment seriously compared to last year. I don't know where you got the info saying no arrests at the sevens www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/sevens-2012/6368771/Police-praise-Sevens-fan-behaviourI'm sure quite a few at both events will have started their drinking well before arriving, most consider it part of the party atmosphere. Don't know how that will ever be changed as it seems to be something that is now part of the kiwi psyche |
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Post by pallmall on Feb 6, 2012 19:06:07 GMT 12
You can run without a body on the car, or at least part of it missing, but you must have a bonnet on the car, it is deemed to be part of the fire wall and is also supposed to be able to stop engine parts flying around in the event of a blow up.
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Post by pfloyd on Feb 6, 2012 19:09:37 GMT 12
was thinking the same thing Alloyplatypus. the panthers will be shooting for their 6th "back up" in 7 years. But wait ..... Bruce is now the promoter at WP so look out for all the conspiracy theories to surface again. The Rees fire thing ? mate you would need to have been in hiding all weekend not to have seen all the comments about this and the fact that puting out a fire is a safety issue and is not outside assistance. it was even specfically cleared up by the race officials with the track announcer before the start of the second night
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Post by tmack on Feb 6, 2012 19:10:47 GMT 12
Anyone know what went down in the grandstand on the first night. A lady had a real go at some drunk guys just before the palmy v gb race and the crowd got right behind her. But before that down the other end of the grandstand there where cops and security guards up to something
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Post by Skorp on Feb 6, 2012 19:26:23 GMT 12
Anyone know what went down in the grandstand on the first night. A lady had a real go at some drunk guys just before the palmy v gb race and the crowd got right behind her. But before that down the other end of the grandstand there where cops and security guards up to something I heard there were two fights, one at each end and that a couple of people got removed as a result |
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Post by tony27 on Feb 6, 2012 19:33:09 GMT 12
The lady who had a go at the couple of drunk guys was just behind you, possible more towards the centre of the stands but was in the first few rows. They were escorted out by the police after refusing to leave when asked by security
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 19:35:02 GMT 12
I would love to hear from people who are for drinking at events like this.
Is its still justified? Is it needed? Did you get affected this weekend?
While I was one to call out Rees on the roll and fire debacle the refs cleared it up saying that putting out a fire isnt outside assistance so I'll roll with that (pun intended) and hopefully it will be implimented into copies of the rules book so theres no need or chance for uncertainty.
Well done Panthers and hopefully someone will smash the p (safely...if you can do so safely in teams) next year.
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Post by stockmad on Feb 6, 2012 19:42:16 GMT 12
not sure if anyone had seen on the first night when rees got rolled in turn 4 and his car caught fire there was a can throwin had his car to . and i think its a good idea to close the pits when the raceing starts. the abuse to the drivers is sh@t they put there cars and bodys on the line to intertain us . talking to dale on saturday night he was saying they got abused lastyear . as a tiger fan well done to the panthers . and well done to the tigers for 2nd place . just hope dale is back nextyear .
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Post by stockmad on Feb 6, 2012 20:35:28 GMT 12
just been reading the firstnight discussion and someone had wrote how dale ewers was racing . and have to agree he wasnt slowing down for anyone his hits were fast and hard great stuff from dale . and iv got to say the mustangs would of got thru to the final if it wasnt for dale . 1 mustang car had dale on the inside of him and somehow dale just turned that mustang driver into his own team mate to spin him awsum race by dale in that race . would of been good to see dale in his old car for the final race the outcome could have changed.
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Post by BarryB on Feb 6, 2012 21:20:16 GMT 12
Ok, just to throw a really big spanner in the works. Why is it that Palmy never pull off repeat wins @ Auckland Teams nationals like they do down there? For all you P supporters are you able to explain this. Also, alot of other sport codes use a video ref, why can't this be the same in speedway? It would also take away all the confusion over where cars are positioned when red lights come on, etc... 1/ They win in Auckland every year too (won last 5 or 6 in a row?) 2/ Video ref? Too bleep bleep slow (I'm not prepared to wait that long during each stopage) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2012 10:59:13 GMT 12
Panthers won fair and square .
Were definately the best team at the event and come through a pretty tough draw .
Demolished the Rebels in the semis , and gave Nelson an outright hiding in the final.
They had nothing to favour them.
Just top drivers with top machinery .
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Post by BarryB on Feb 7, 2012 11:06:24 GMT 12
Too true, they beat Hawkes Bay, Great Britain, Rotorua and Nelson on their way to victory, therefore beating those that ended up 2nd, 3rd and 4th along the way. Team GB gave them a fright, Rotorua had their measure but not at the critical point (when the chequered flag falls), while Nelson were just torn apart. Hats off to the Petes (x2), the Scotts (x2) and to Shane. Three of the five got rolled over the course of the weekend, but still they won!!
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Post by Tony on Feb 7, 2012 12:16:04 GMT 12
Good points Barry, although they will possibly be lost on those who hate the Panthers with such intensity.
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