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Post by pfloyd on Feb 6, 2012 8:25:52 GMT 12
thats the point though - the whole smash the P IS leading to personal abuse of the drivers. i have no issue with people holding up the Panthers as the villians - its all part of the spectacle. and hey if you think that Palmy fans dont know what it feels like to have a team that doesnt win anything try supporting our rugby team. we aint won anything for 30 years which coincidentally is about how long the teams champs has been going. hey maybe thats the problem - the Panthers stole the Turbos mojo !
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:30:13 GMT 12
I have to agree, I'm all for rivalry, villains and heroes but the abuse is uncalled for. I really hope its only a small group that are drunk and being idiots.
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Post by verm1 on Feb 6, 2012 8:46:11 GMT 12
watch it on speedbox what a great show well worth the $30. heaps of grip about rees palmey has a very exsperince team well as rotoura fan they looked very strong good luck next year
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Post by stretch67 on Feb 6, 2012 9:00:08 GMT 12
Red went on refs moved two rebels back even though rees moved furthur under the red then them and moved osbourne back heaps even though he was in same spot as other rebel o red light crowd booed heaps. Rebels got cheated. yes agree they got cheated by a refs call but they should have had this race done and dusted way before this incident they were tactically inept.... almost looked like once they got rid of bengston and miers they though they had done the job and the sad thing about this is it diminishes one of the great drives in a team race by an individual |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Feb 6, 2012 10:10:35 GMT 12
Even more confusing was the hit on a stationary 63p in turn 1/2 not being picked up on, it was a definate turn in hit but I have no idea by which number Stationary cars are a bit of a grey area. The 63p was in what is called an attacking position and is fair game, even though he wasn't moving. comes under the code of ethics Tony Wootton was stationary and in an attacking position Dave Tarrant should never have been sent off unless they changed the rules at the drivers meeting |
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 10:21:19 GMT 12
Wasnt the issue of stationary cars being hit brought about after Peter Barry, im sure someone will correct me if im wrong.
Also Wooten cant have been in an attacking position because I think it was in that very race later on another waikato car was sent off for the same angle of attack, different corner. Of course I can only go from what I saw on speedbox and angles may have been completely different.
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Post by craige on Feb 6, 2012 10:23:03 GMT 12
Wasnt the issue of stationary cars being hit brought about after Peter Barry, im sure someone will correct me if im wrong. Also Wooten cant have been in an attacking position because I think it was in that very race later on another waikato car was sent off for the same angle of attack, different corner. Of course I can only go from what I saw on speedbox and angles may have been completely different. correct wooten wasnt facing the direction of traffic,he was slightly facing the opposite direction,we were sitting right there when he got hit |
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Post by Admin on Feb 6, 2012 10:31:13 GMT 12
I didn't think Tony was in an attacking position either by just a smidgeon . Probably hard for Dave to judge and it was a last minute change of line that he took to hit Tony. Did he think Tony moved or something?,
Did Tony move a little bit?, I don't know.
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 10:35:30 GMT 12
You can understand why Dave made the hit, I can only imagine in the heat of a teams race coming down the straight he wouldnt have been able to judge angles and would have seen a potential threat.
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Post by craige on Feb 6, 2012 10:38:53 GMT 12
You can understand why Dave made the hit, I can only imagine in the heat of a teams race coming down the straight he wouldnt have been able to judge angles and would have seen a potential threat. correct again dt is one hell of a nice guy and a gentlman,speed he was going i doubt he would be able to judge the exact angle tony was on .and a staionary car is fair game if looks like it could be in a attacking position |
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Post by lexus57p on Feb 6, 2012 10:41:38 GMT 12
"You can understand why Dave made the hit, I can only imagine in the heat of a teams race coming down the straight he wouldn't have been able to judge angles and would have seen a potential threat.[/quote]
You are exactly right as I came around turn 4 I saw Tony sitting there and slowed for a fraction to assess the situation, I believed he has still in an attacking position and had no idea as to whether his car was running or not as it was the first lap that he had been sat there. So lined his front end up and did what all teams attempted this weekend and took his steering out.
Apologies for the couple of dough nuts but was having so much fun out there I was gutted to be removed from the race.
DT 64p (57p)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2012 10:48:45 GMT 12
Looked legit from where I was, and was not malicious as he aimed for the front wheels to damage the car, not the driver as sometimes seen.
See these sort of hits fairly often, so not sure what was different about this one? Bad luck Dave, keep up the good work!
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Post by FrankTheTank on Feb 6, 2012 10:51:17 GMT 12
I think you were unlucky Dave. Looks like you had a good helping of angry pills before that race! Great intent throughout the race.
Hopefully we see you back putting on a show for the Mustangs next season.
The Mustangs look like they are close to pulling off something special.
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 10:53:00 GMT 12
"You can understand why Dave made the hit, I can only imagine in the heat of a teams race coming down the straight he wouldn't have been able to judge angles and would have seen a potential threat. You are exactly right as I came around turn 4 I saw Tony sitting there and slowed for a fraction to assess the situation, I believed he has still in an attacking position and had no idea as to whether his car was running or not as it was the first lap that he had been sat there. So lined his front end up and did what all teams attempted this weekend and took his steering out. Apologies for the couple of dough nuts but was having so much fun out there I was gutted to be removed from the race. DT 64p (57p)[/quote] Cheers for the insight Dave. Must be massively frustrating being removed from a race when you are sure youve been doing everything to the book. |
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Post by pallmall on Feb 6, 2012 11:14:21 GMT 12
I didn't want to start any nonsense going after the first night as there was already enough nonsense being posted around Peter Rees, but two things I saw concerned me, and both from the Nelson team.
In two races on Saturday night Nelson cars fored an opposition car into parked cars, I thought this was one of the biggest not to do things and that it is supposed to result in instant disqualification. I think the first time was by far the worst and am surprised no injury came from it, the second time could possibly have been judged a mis- calculation.
Surprised it hasn't been mentioned before, but I don't want to start a flame war going, nor am I anti Nelson.
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Post by SpeedwayKing on Feb 6, 2012 11:33:34 GMT 12
next tui ad
Rebels/Tigers gonna smash the P=yeah right
woohoo panthers won their 2nd straight final 2 down 3 to go
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Post by sharky on Feb 6, 2012 11:35:07 GMT 12
Unwritten rule in normal racing Pallmall most drivers just don't do it becuase it's dangerous
I saw it to and thought it was a bit off.
But teams is all or nothing so fair game but not good sportsmanship.
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Post by 3brt on Feb 6, 2012 11:40:02 GMT 12
We were sitting between turn 3 and 4 when Bengston got put up the wall and the red lights came on. Rees followed by the 2 rebel cars stopped together( they all pulled up as they were racing), they moved Steiney back first then Osbourne, then they moved Osbourne back even further. What was stupid was Osbourne was in front of Steiney(Benefit of the doubt, they were kneck and kneck) when the red lights came on. I feel sorry for Bengston and Rees as they were taking all the abuse, some D%*K head down from us threw a can at Bengston, even when Palmy did there victory lap they got Booed from turn 3 to 4. I know it wouldnt have changed the outcome. but why are these calls made that are SOO blatantly wrong, this ruined what was a great race. BE CONSISTANT, these calls are affecting the drivers and teams which is a huge shame. Mint weekend other wise.
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Post by l8r on Feb 6, 2012 11:40:40 GMT 12
I have to agree, I'm all for rivalry, villains and heroes but the abuse is uncalled for. I really hope its only a small group that are drunk and being idiots. Totally agree with this, its all good to be anti any team, but have the balls and dignity to clap for any team that deserved and did beat your team on the track without silly ref decissions, abuse is uncalled for seriously... Be humble in defeat and party in the wins, come on people!!! |
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Post by pallmall on Feb 6, 2012 12:00:01 GMT 12
Unwritten rule in normal racing Pallmall most drivers just don't do it becuase it's dangerous I saw it to and thought it was a bit off. But teams is all or nothing so fair game but not good sportsmanship. I am pretty sure it is a Written rule for Teams Racing. |
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