|
|
Post by spdwayorthehway on Feb 27, 2016 23:00:12 GMT 12
Regarding the NZ title,,,,,,, maybe no one complained.
|
|
anonp
Full Member
Posts: 192
|
Post by anonp on Feb 28, 2016 4:13:17 GMT 12
yes that's what Gizzy did to perfection last year and won the title with the over weight car in their team, provided you don't rely on your illegal car for points and are happy to have them out there as a blocker it works a treat, not right I know, but some teams use the rule book to there advantage better than others I guess. Anything Illegal this year for Gisborne to retain the title.? maybe not.. but not watering track before any of their races, home track giving them flexible race schedule + delays to give them advantage over most teams surely helped them achieve winning again but all the P bashers putting it out there that the pumas have "knowingly" cheated this weekend is ludicrous.. how everybody suggests they intentionally showed up with illegal car(s) as you say is unfathomable obviously you do not know all the factors to this situation but as anti-palmy as you may be, your many many comments regarding this topic tells us all how sour you are about it ps: hope your streaming went well as clearly you weren't even at the event.. def time to let it go lorry nobody likes broken records |
|
|
|
Post by tank11 on Feb 28, 2016 6:28:28 GMT 12
Anything Illegal this year for Gisborne to retain the title.? maybe not.. but not watering track before any of their races, home track giving them flexible race schedule + delays to give them advantage over most teams surely helped them achieve winning again but all the P bashers putting it out there that the pumas have "knowingly" cheated this weekend is ludicrous.. how everybody suggests they intentionally showed up with illegal car(s) as you say is unfathomable obviously you do not know all the factors to this situation but as anti-palmy as you may be, your many many comments regarding this topic tells us all how sour you are about it ps: hope your streaming went well as clearly you weren't even at the event.. def time to let it go lorry nobody likes broken records Here comes the (p) controversy conspiracies....... The track was dumped on during the day, in case the weather stayed hot. It was forecast to cool off and for showers during the evening (which happened). Locals would have felt the pressure drop and knew rain was coming, I did and told the people next to me it wasn't far away. The opening showed you what happens on a banked track with water. The rest was done bloody well, just a light sprinkle every now and then. They called the consolation and brought the final forward to get a title done, in case the rain shower got heavier. About 5 more minutes of consistent shower and we would be going back today. Looking out for drivers and fixing the wall (again looking out for drivers safety)was just cause for the delays. |
|
|
|
Post by 4zfed on Feb 28, 2016 6:50:21 GMT 12
Well said Tank..Gisborne were the team that had the least amount of time to repair for Semi & Finals. There was noway anyone was going to beat them last night they were fast and ruthless..quarter final they left Chch with 0..Semi final I think Welly had only 1 car finish and the Final was much the same.
|
|
|
|
Post by Racerman on Feb 28, 2016 9:10:19 GMT 12
Always palmy! Home of the "untouchable" engine builders and part suppliers! (Also on rules committee!) Go figure! If that's not a conflict of interest i don't know wat is! The rule book task force doesn't have a Palmerston North based member, currently 2 from Nelson 1 form Taranaki, |
|
|
|
Post by m8sr8z on Feb 28, 2016 9:15:46 GMT 12
yes that's what Gizzy did to perfection last year and won the title with the over weight car in their team, provided you don't rely on your illegal car for points and are happy to have them out there as a blocker it works a treat, not right I know, but some teams use the rule book to there advantage better than others I guess. Anything Illegal this year for Gisborne to retain the title.? Anything Illegal this year for Gisborne to retain the title.? maybe not.. but not watering track before any of their races, home track giving them flexible race schedule + delays to give them advantage over most teams surely helped them achieve winning again but all the P bashers putting it out there that the pumas have "knowingly" cheated this weekend is ludicrous.. how everybody suggests they intentionally showed up with illegal car(s) as you say is unfathomable obviously you do not know all the factors to this situation but as anti-palmy as you may be, your many many comments regarding this topic tells us all how sour you are about it ps: hope your streaming went well as clearly you weren't even at the event.. def time to let it go lorry nobody likes broken records All three of you are broken records. Don't get upset if people are going to say your team are cheats when you do the same to others. |
|
stu24p
Junior Member
Posts: 60 
|
Post by stu24p on Feb 28, 2016 9:32:48 GMT 12
Wiped post as I misread stuff. Opps.
|
|
stu24p
Junior Member
Posts: 60
|
Post by stu24p on Feb 28, 2016 9:34:43 GMT 12
Clearly someone in the v team knew.
|
|
|
|
Post by keyboardracer on Feb 28, 2016 11:00:42 GMT 12
Some of you have a real passion for hating the p. In the meantime g, for the second year running an illegal car. They receive no real penalty because the car scored no points. A lot of you say the p team should have been dqed, so why not the g team. Neither teams results, excluding p's points penalty, would have effected the final results. But rules are rules. G have played the rule book like Ritchie McGraw and no one says boo.They, the team, clearly knew they had an overweight car again, or at least borderline. I wonder who in the p team knew there was an illegal car in the team. What G car was over weight at this meeting? |
|
|
|
Post by keyboardracer on Feb 28, 2016 11:03:41 GMT 12
Most could guess or on the basis of probability that someone from some track wud have illegal parts such is how the class is now. And just seems to be more often than not from P W or V, or is perceived as that's the likely area because or xyz engine builder or parts supplier. IMO Out of interest, What other cars this season, or even the last few seasons have been caught using illegal parts, particularly from W or V? |
|
|
|
Post by cowboysfromhell on Feb 28, 2016 11:34:43 GMT 12
Can I ask a silly question, but what was wrong with the manifolds?
|
|
|
|
Post by squiddley on Feb 28, 2016 12:05:56 GMT 12
Manifold was not standard. It had been modified/altered. So therefore illegal.
|
|
stu24p
Junior Member
Posts: 60
|
Post by stu24p on Feb 28, 2016 12:25:09 GMT 12
Some of you have a real passion for hating the p. In the meantime g, for the second year running an illegal car. They receive no real penalty because the car scored no points. A lot of you say the p team should have been dqed, so why not the g team. Neither teams results, excluding p's points penalty, would have effected the final results. But rules are rules. G have played the rule book like Ritchie McGraw and no one says boo.They, the team, clearly knew they had an overweight car again, or at least borderline. I wonder who in the p team knew there was an illegal car in the team. What G car was over weight at this meeting? ? 8g? Or have I misread it. Was that only last year? |
|
|
|
Post by tank11 on Feb 28, 2016 12:39:11 GMT 12
What G car was over weight at this meeting? ? 8g? Or have I misread it. Was that only last year? Lat year, yes. Have asked around and can not confirm it happened this year. From people that would/should know. |
|
|
|
Post by cowboysfromhell on Feb 28, 2016 13:35:15 GMT 12
Manifold was not standard. It had been modified/altered. So therefore illegal. The only thing I can think of would be porting or polishing as they are generally quite altered anyway to take the carb, was it ford or holden and what was the alleged offence? |
|
|
|
Post by m8sr8z on Feb 28, 2016 14:38:52 GMT 12
What G car was over weight at this meeting? ? 8g? Or have I misread it. Was that only last year? And after all that Stu |
|
stu24p
Junior Member
Posts: 60
|
Post by stu24p on Feb 28, 2016 15:01:53 GMT 12
? 8g? Or have I misread it. Was that only last year? And after all that Stu After all that I had mis read peoples posts and got my facts wrong sorry. I thought I'd read it happened this year and last. |
|
|
|
Post by scraggy on Feb 28, 2016 15:47:49 GMT 12
maybe not.. but not watering track before any of their races, home track giving them flexible race schedule + delays to give them advantage over most teams surely helped them achieve winning again but all the P bashers putting it out there that the pumas have "knowingly" cheated this weekend is ludicrous.. how everybody suggests they intentionally showed up with illegal car(s) as you say is unfathomable obviously you do not know all the factors to this situation but as anti-palmy as you may be, your many many comments regarding this topic tells us all how sour you are about it ps: hope your streaming went well as clearly you weren't even at the event.. def time to let it go lorry nobody likes broken records Here comes the (p) controversy conspiracies....... The track was dumped on during the day, in case the weather stayed hot. It was forecast to cool off and for showers during the evening (which happened). Locals would have felt the pressure drop and knew rain was coming, I did and told the people next to me it wasn't far away. The opening showed you what happens on a banked track with water. The rest was done bloody well, just a light sprinkle every now and then. They called the consolation and brought the final forward to get a title done, in case the rain shower got heavier. About 5 more minutes of consistent shower and we would be going back today. Looking out for drivers and fixing the wall (again looking out for drivers safety)was just cause for the delays. Thanks Tank11 spot on This Post kind of nerved me a tad, as member of the infield staff our aim was to try and preserve the track from the high day time temps. Our track staff know when the sun goes that the moisture in the track will rise back to the surface. As for the wall repair, we were not happy leaving exposed Reid bar protruding from the wall, considering that part of the wall was getting a fair bit of contact attention it needed to be safe. We were also aware of the pending rain as Tank11 has said the pressure dropped and the spots were starting as we were still fixing the wall. Decision was also made to move the final forward so we effectively disadvantaged the Gisborne and Nelson teams in doing this but they both rose to the challenge. Rant over |
|
|
|
Post by hbhornets on Feb 28, 2016 22:30:43 GMT 12
What's the basis for your opinion? 8g weighed overweight at last years Stockcar Teams Champs and there was no penalty sanctioned to the team, the penalty was sanctioned against the individual. Please quote from the SNZ rule book to provide evidence to back up your post. Was the 8g found to be heavy prior to racing, had he taken part in any racing first, had he had any bearing at all on race results? 8g was uder pior to racing, a full load a a bit of dirt put him 8kgs over, did he effect the overall out come yes, should the team be punished no, were the right actions taken against him. yes. and lasty was his intent to cheat the rules? answer would be no. |
|
|
|
Post by hbhornets on Feb 28, 2016 23:26:37 GMT 12
say what you like, the quilfing format was wrong for how finals night worked i felt. the best 8 teams on night one made the finals. as fans isnt that all you could ask for? auckland have right to feel agrieved that they missed out, but thought they were weak on quilfing night. no compiants from me, and i hate palmy more than most! my compiants lie in the flag man, he was waving the flag really late and made it hard to tell who had one, but an awesome weekend of racing, but would of love to see streetstocks instead of classic stockcars. not bad, just the two compliants across two nights.
|
|
