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Post by midway on Oct 17, 2018 18:25:38 GMT 12
Go Fast You need to understand Why has the balance sheet at the AGm been in the red not the black for several years The club has got a pretty cool deal over many other clubs that use RatePayers money in the way of a lease for a venue from Auckland super city council .. You say numbers of competitors has been rising ,but some of the top meetings on the calendar last season would show other wise .. People in glass houses should not throw stones ,be thankful for what has been given to you ,and we will see you at Colin dale Park ,as curiosity kills the cat ....  |
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Post by graemeh on Oct 17, 2018 19:52:04 GMT 12
Go Fast You need to understand Why has the balance sheet at the AGm been in the red not the black for several years The club has got a pretty cool deal over many other clubs that use RatePayers money in the way of a lease for a venue from Auckland super city council .. You say numbers of competitors has been rising ,but some of the top meetings on the calendar last season would show other wise .. People in glass houses should not throw stones ,be thankful for what has been given to you ,and we will see you at Colin dale Park ,as curiosity kills the cat .... The Annual accounts presented to the AGM show Net profits the last two years from what I can see, this is despite fairly big costs for temporary stand hire. Perhaps the red you see is just the mist you see when ever anything regarding Waikaraka Park is mentioned. |
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Post by axl1 on Oct 17, 2018 21:37:17 GMT 12
Some of the comments posted is why the two separate entities can not go down the road of a single combined track. To move forward as a sport speedway must progress from a club/amateur level to a level to attract sponsorship, competitors and the entertainment dollar from the paying public aka the fans.
With all due respect to Waikaraka Park,the promoter, the competitors and fans, asking for weedeaters, shovels and people to help out on a working bee to tend to the facility before the session starts won't take speedway in a forward direction.
The Waikaraka Park way and the SPL way in terms of promotion would see speedway ripped apart from the inside out with internal politics and infighting.
It's a marriage that won't work.
I have major reservations about Mr Mosen.
Mr Mosen turned his back on generational families to cater towards stag parties, The Rock radio station and the V8 bogan bragade with adding promo girls dressed in next to nothing walking around the joint.
I do believe Mr Buckley needs to take greeter control of SPL and its direction. I believe his intentions are in the best interests of the sport.
A new purpose built facility will allow open wheel speedway to take on the mindset of anything is possible.
If done correctly and by learning from past mistakes open wheel speedway in Auckland has an opportunity to take 10 steps forward.
The test case for speedway in Auckland is circuit racing.The mixing of different elements, politics and infighting has seen the demise of the sport with no sign of it returning.
From the hay day of the summer series,Trazams and truck racing to the spilt in V8 racing (supertours and NZV8s) we now relie on the supercars an Australian championship to draw attention to our own local circuit racing.
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Post by tahi1 on Oct 18, 2018 6:56:26 GMT 12
speedway is a drug running in your veins car onwers fans and the people that put in there money ,the mindset this track is home to stockcars and open wheelers dont fit i think needs to be put aside, open wheel raceing at the top end midgets sprintcars are big money to own and run and with this years teams in the midget class the average guy running hasnt got a hope ,crowd numbers at the springs are low in the big picture if your chasing sponership to run a car top ten ,crowd numbers at rupuna are very low usually ,crowd numbers at most midget week shows are low in the states its only for top of the line teams no doubt if you understand speedway its great racing but if your chasing top money from a sponership and they dont get it like most of us do they will fall asleep , one track big tv adverts im bringing my money man along when there is the night of a mixed show , its easeir to throw the hot dog races in , yes what a nightmare to run all these classes of cars ,but if you guys want to grow this sport past the regular fans at a open wheel only track it needs one track one promoter and a mixed show to show non speedway people the buzz of the sport you cant keep it as your pet even naming rights to the track could be huge money do the same thing get the same result , appoint a ceo that knows little about speedway its not hard to run with honest people whos aim is growth not to line there pockets my guess is colin dale park open wheel racing is dead in 5 years there willbe a few who get rich out of it on the way down and bill buckley wont be one of them
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 7:30:26 GMT 12
As an adjunct to this topic great see to a broad spectrum of informative and often passionate comments posted in this and other associated threads in a generally good natured manner void of personal attacks that given the many polarizing views could easily disintegrate into a dirt fight. Kudos to the MacMods.
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Post by mod46c on Oct 18, 2018 8:39:48 GMT 12
So you're complaining about the council spending your rates on speedway. wtf? where did you get that from? I am happy anybody spends money on speedway. What I said (and seemed pretty obvious) is Christchurch manages to have 5 speedway tracks with a fraction of the population of Auckland and yet some posters in this site seem to think Auckland is too small a population to manage 3 (Rosebank, Waikaraka and Western Springs/?) Also those are all club run tracks with little or no council funding. Classic |
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Post by twincarb on Oct 18, 2018 18:42:56 GMT 12
So what will the new place be called ?? Southern springs ??
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Post by Homer on Oct 18, 2018 19:11:21 GMT 12
So what will the new place be called ?? Southern springs ?? I'd say Mosens' Monopoly. |
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Post by tonyr on Oct 19, 2018 6:22:11 GMT 12
wtf? where did you get that from? I am happy anybody spends money on speedway. What I said (and seemed pretty obvious) is Christchurch manages to have 5 speedway tracks with a fraction of the population of Auckland and yet some posters in this site seem to think Auckland is too small a population to manage 3 (Rosebank, Waikaraka and Western Springs/?) Also those are all club run tracks with little or no council funding. if you talk black tracks in christchurch, you have to add meremere, waiuku and waiheke island to auckland lists, Last time I looked Meremere was in the Waikato....... |
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Post by magilla on Oct 19, 2018 14:26:44 GMT 12
wtf? where did you get that from? I am happy anybody spends money on speedway. What I said (and seemed pretty obvious) is Christchurch manages to have 5 speedway tracks with a fraction of the population of Auckland and yet some posters in this site seem to think Auckland is too small a population to manage 3 (Rosebank, Waikaraka and Western Springs/?) Also those are all club run tracks with little or no council funding. if you talk black tracks in christchurch, you have to add meremere, waiuku and waiheke island to auckland lists, when did Meremere switch from Waikato to Auckland? Also there is no longer a working speedway track, just the Vintage and teh "dirt track" which isn't a speedway track, same as Waiuku. |
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Post by midway on Oct 22, 2018 10:07:16 GMT 12
So what will the new place be called ?? Southern springs ?? It will be called alot of names by the sour grapes down the road i guess  |
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Post by magilla on Oct 23, 2018 16:21:49 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 8:44:34 GMT 12
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Post by hienekenno1 on Nov 7, 2018 8:52:18 GMT 12
What a mess!oh well November 20 will be a interesting date.
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Post by magilla on Nov 7, 2018 16:26:33 GMT 12
so if the council puts in $14 million is Buckley putting up the other $30-40 million?
Would he really put up that much for a 30 year lease when he not likely to still be around in 30 years
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Post by Rota on Nov 7, 2018 17:59:28 GMT 12
Stuff only post the negative stuff & majority who comment in in the article are just jealous idiots who are are out of the sport now.
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Post by midway on Nov 7, 2018 21:11:13 GMT 12
If funding was to be cut or slimmed down for other parks ,then it dont look to sweet for the hard hits of speedway down the road ... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 11:33:08 GMT 12
If funding was to be cut or slimmed down for other parks ,then it dont look to sweet for the hard hits of speedway down the road ... All we need is a dirt oval to run on, last time I looked, Waikaraka had that, what else do you need? Not sure why there is so much hate for the place, because at the moment, come 2020 it's the only Speedway in Auckland... |
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Post by midway on Nov 8, 2018 19:10:01 GMT 12
We are entitled to share views open to discussion ,but the wording of "Hate the place " is not quiet the correct judgement as far as i am concerned ,.
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Post by percy on Nov 8, 2018 19:41:35 GMT 12
If reported councillor intentions prove to be correct the November 20 meeting could be a bit exciting.
What irks me is that many of the objections relate not to the deal itself but council conduct and how it's being funded. Those are aspects speedway shouldn't have to worry about as they are council functions yet it appears those aspects could derail the deal.
If the November 20 vote doesn't go through then what?
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