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Post by percy on Jan 12, 2024 23:04:33 GMT 12
So lets summarise the situation to the best of our knowledge (highly unofficial)
Qualifiers (23 & awaiting 1 more) P(7) - 79p, 772p, 172p, 13p, 91p, 94p, 226p W(5) - 9w, 6w, 5w, 46w, 669w S(4) - 33s, 15s, 517s, 229s C(2) - 151c, 991c H(2) - 45h, 8h V(1) - 99v K(1) - 5k A(1) - 8a
With one being sorted out from 88c, 69s or 32s
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Post by agraderacer on Jan 12, 2024 23:08:17 GMT 12
Red group has changed again.
91p 71 15s 67 94a 57 6w 56 617s 54 8r 53
Posted over 10 minutes ago, just gone official. Looks like Gaskin was relegated 2 spots in Heat 3.
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Post by BarryB on Jan 12, 2024 23:10:16 GMT 12
So lets summarise the situation to the best of our knowledge (highly unofficial) Qualifiers (23 & awaiting 1 more) P(7) - 79p, 772p, 172p, 13p, 91p, 94p, 226p W(5) - 9w, 6w, 5w, 46w, 669w S(4) - 33s, 15s, 517s, 229s C(2) - 151c, 991c H(2) - 45h, 8h V(1) - 99v K(1) - 5k A(1) - 8a With one being sorted out from 88c, 69s or 32s There was an interview with 69s just before the livestream finished, and she knew she'd passed 89w just before the chequered flag, Dale told the officials that had happened and there was also apparently a review of video evidence, and she gained a point which has made her 3rd on her own. I'm not sure how she was previously 3rd=, but maybe others lost points somewhere too. Barry B
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Post by percy on Jan 12, 2024 23:15:46 GMT 12
According to the lap scoring in heat three for Pink Group, the difference between 69s and 89w across the finish line is 0.6 seconds (89w ahead).
I could maybe understand if the gap was 0.006 but how can a gap of six tenths be overturned?
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Post by BarryB on Jan 12, 2024 23:25:35 GMT 12
According to the lap scoring in heat three for Pink Group, the difference between 69s and 89w across the finish line is 0.6 seconds (89w ahead). I could maybe understand if the gap was 0.006 but how can a gap of six tenths be overturned? I have noooooo idea. I found recognising most of the cars difficult, but then I haven't seen any in the flesh all summer. Apparently she put up the $250 to protest, soooo....... Barry B
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Post by hercules on Jan 12, 2024 23:25:47 GMT 12
Not stockcar related as such, but was good to hear for the glen eagles fans point of view, that Harley robb will be in the team and using the 19c car.
Anyways was a good meeting tonight, club did good to process 200 cars, 24 races, and a run off and be finished by midnight, I was expecting much later, as stockcar races spend a lot of time under red lights.
Also pits stream went great, bring on tommorow and the choice between what stream to buy 😂
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Post by spuddy on Jan 12, 2024 23:28:15 GMT 12
Robb very lucky, popped a frost plug on the inlet manifold on lap 7 but still made it
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Post by BarryB on Jan 12, 2024 23:28:23 GMT 12
Not stockcar related as such, but was good to hear for the glen eagles fans point of view, that Harley robb will be in the team and using the 19c car. Anyways was a good meeting tonight, club did good to process 200 cars, 24 races, and a run off and be finished by midnight, I was expecting much later, as stockcar races spend a lot of time under red lights. Also pits stream went great, bring on tommorow and the choice between what stream to buy 😂 They certainly increased efficiency as the night wore on. At the end of RD. 1 it was looking like a 12.30am finish.....and then they had a lolly scramble. So to finish before midnight was a good effort. Barry B
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Post by percy on Jan 12, 2024 23:43:45 GMT 12
OK so there's two things that have happened in Pink Group
In their second heat 27h was scored as having only completed 3 laps but has been credited with 8th place having actually completed the full allotment of 12 laps. So 88c lost a point.
Then in heat three, 69s has been promoted ahead of 89w despite lap scoring showing 69s finished 0.6 seconds behind on the track. That gives 69s a point, placing 69s one point ahead of 88c and 32s.
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Post by percy on Jan 12, 2024 23:46:49 GMT 12
In the first blue group heat, 6s was credited as one lap down on live lap scoring but has been re-instated as a lead lap car
That gives 6s a heap of points, putting him comfortably ahead of 669w in that group
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Post by BarryB on Jan 12, 2024 23:48:39 GMT 12
OK so there's two things that have happened in Pink Group In their second heat 27h was scored as having only completed 3 laps but has been credited with 8th place having actually completed the full allotment of 12 laps. So 88c lost a point. Then in heat three, 69s has been promoted ahead of 89w despite lap scoring showing 69s finished 0.6 seconds behind on the track. That gives 69s a point, placing 69s one point ahead of 88c and 32s. Well done Percy. There had to be a lost point to 88c somewhere, and you found it. I'm sure commentary will bring us up to date with all of these changes before the two repechages tomorrow. Barry B
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Post by percy on Jan 12, 2024 23:50:34 GMT 12
With those changes our 24 qualifiers should be:
P(7) - 13p, 79p, 91p, 94p, 172p, 226p, 772p S(6) - 6s, 15s, 33s, 69s, 229s, 517s W(3) - 5w, 9w, 46w C(2) - 151c, 991c H(2) - 8h, 45h A(2) - 8a, 94a V(1) - 99v K(1) - 5k
If anyone has an advance on that let us know
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Post by meeaneemic on Jan 13, 2024 5:44:04 GMT 12
There's something to be said in having a quality commentary team. For an NZ Championship meeting you'd think you invite the best in the country. There should be a law that for all NZ Stockcar and Superstock events Paul Hickey should be in the box and controlling the commentary Barry B You don't necessarily need someone to control the commentary, you just need Commentators to have a plan and work together which is what Paul and I did at Meeanee last week. I absolutely agree that for Island, GP and NZ titles a specialist should be brought in and perhaps SNZ could have a list of announcers and the classes they specialize in and then the Track hosting must use one of those on the list unless they are already based at the hosting track.
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Post by Tapped on Jan 13, 2024 6:34:00 GMT 12
There should be a law that for all NZ Stockcar and Superstock events Paul Hickey should be in the box and controlling the commentary Barry B You don't necessarily need someone to control the commentary, you just need Commentators to have a plan and work together which is what Paul and I did at Meeanee last week. I absolutely agree that for Island, GP and NZ titles a specialist should be brought in and perhaps SNZ could have a list of announcers and the classes they specialize in and then the Track hosting must use one of those on the list unless they are already based at the hosting track. You and Paul did a fine job too - thank you
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Post by 4zfed on Jan 13, 2024 7:59:45 GMT 12
Can anyone that was there or watched the stream give us a quick run down on who eliminated who that was in contention in heat 3 please 🙏
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Post by conrod on Jan 13, 2024 8:03:25 GMT 12
With those changes our 24 qualifiers should be: P(7) - 13p, 79p, 91p, 94p, 172p, 226p, 772p S(6) - 6s, 15s, 33s, 69s, 229s, 517s W(3) - 5w, 9w, 46w C(2) - 151c, 991c H(2) - 8h, 45h A(2) - 8a, 94a V(1) - 99v K(1) - 5k If anyone has an advance on that let us know No Rotorua cars that’s surprise ?
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Post by Roxcyford on Jan 13, 2024 9:49:10 GMT 12
Have to commend Stratford, getting that done in the time frame they did, But the update of points was deplorable, while lining up on grid they had time to give each grid number, more appropiate would have been points, to me grids don,t matter if you don,t know where drivers are on points. They gave the points of the top 3 over all after each heat while cars were still circulating, couldn,t here a god dam thing. As for flat tire rule, I shouldn,t be talking about this as i have had post cancelled in the past, but the sooner they are allowed to race with enclosed right rears and mud flaps on the front this may be a way of controlling flying mud, just my opinion, but I have to say this rule has changed how drivers race, no longer does the thinking driver go sideways into a corner where there are pot holes about, they straighten up and go across the corner, the good side of this rule, if you can say it is a good side, is this now gives slower drivers more of a chance to race on the big stage as quicker drivers fall by the way side, in my mind a fairer way of implementing this rule is drivers still get points as to when you were eliminated. .
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Post by bashandcrash on Jan 13, 2024 9:50:53 GMT 12
There should be a law that for all NZ Stockcar and Superstock events Paul Hickey should be in the box and controlling the commentary Barry B You don't necessarily need someone to control the commentary, you just need Commentators to have a plan and work together which is what Paul and I did at Meeanee last week. I absolutely agree that for Island, GP and NZ titles a specialist should be brought in and perhaps SNZ could have a list of announcers and the classes they specialize in and then the Track hosting must use one of those on the list unless they are already based at the hosting track. Why does the sport not have a mentorship programme for commentators and aspiring commentators? There is a wealth of knowledge in Mike, Barry Brown and Paul Hickey for a start, and there are plenty of other legacy commentators around the country. With the advent of streaming, our sport is no longer just national, but international, and surely we want the best product being shown to the world?
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Post by bikeboy on Jan 13, 2024 10:01:23 GMT 12
Have to commend Stratford, getting that done in the time frame they did, But the update of points was deplorable, while lining up on grid they had time to give each grid number, more appropiate would have been points, to me grids don,t matter if you don,t know where drivers are on points. They gave the points of the top 3 over all after each heat while cars were still circulating, couldn,t here a god dam thing. As for flat tire rule, I shouldn,t be talking about this as i have had post cancelled in the past, but the sooner they are allowed to race with enclosed right rears and mud flaps on the front this may be a way of controlling flying mud, just my opinion, but I have to say this rule has changed how drivers race, no longer does the thinking driver go sideways into a corner where there are pot holes about, they straighten up and go across the corner, the good side of this rule, if you can say it is a good side, is this now gives slower drivers more of a chance to race on the big stage as quicker drivers fall by the way side, in my mind a fairer way of implementing this rule is drivers still get points as to when you were eliminated. . With social media , I can’t see why the points can not be posted on Facebook when they are posted in the pits , not sure calling them over the p a system would reach any more people
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Post by nakifans on Jan 13, 2024 10:52:14 GMT 12
Have to commend Stratford, getting that done in the time frame they did, But the update of points was deplorable, while lining up on grid they had time to give each grid number, more appropiate would have been points, to me grids don,t matter if you don,t know where drivers are on points. They gave the points of the top 3 over all after each heat while cars were still circulating, couldn,t here a god dam thing. As for flat tire rule, I shouldn,t be talking about this as i have had post cancelled in the past, but the sooner they are allowed to race with enclosed right rears and mud flaps on the front this may be a way of controlling flying mud, just my opinion, but I have to say this rule has changed how drivers race, no longer does the thinking driver go sideways into a corner where there are pot holes about, they straighten up and go across the corner, the good side of this rule, if you can say it is a good side, is this now gives slower drivers more of a chance to race on the big stage as quicker drivers fall by the way side, in my mind a fairer way of implementing this rule is drivers still get points as to when you were eliminated. . Having watched the club President Kim Sharpe on Kokpit Media she certainly has hands on Tiller , well organized, comes across with club welfare certainly 1st and foremost and involves others heavily to make sure every facet runs smoothly. What is out of her control is it is a title meeting and under SNZ jurisdiction. Hope end of night 2 it is all bouquets for the club , quick breather and next title meeting. Stratford always battered above weight, on and off track. Where my 60 yrs of speedway addiction began.
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