huntly teams (Read 4,588 times)

[h8flagracers]

any news on the huntly stockcar teams event??

what teams??

whos in what teams??

is it a 2 day event now??

[ministock85h]

The only thing I know is that it has always been a two day event.
And that the TWS teams event will be awesome to watch.

[alloyplatypus]

Nov 6, 2009 8:16:19 GMT 12 @ministock85h said:

The only thing I know is that it has always been a two day event.

I know that it definitely started off as 1 night deal, and im fairly sure that it was until about 3 or 4 years ago? It is a mean event!!.. and funnily enough after last years issue, one of 2 team(s) fully prepared, racing as a team and set to go, this year is Auckland! Nice turnaround Alleycats! Gizzy as well of course.

Huntly has often waited til the few weeks before, and with the likes of Scotty Gallop running outa there now, may need a shuffle up. Kihikihi seem to have some numbers now, so hopefully they are sorted. I think Baypark may have issues getting a team together if the swap guys arent ready (or keen other than Eban), if they havent changed tracks like a thread suggests.

Im fairly sure Regan has made mention of going up, and im sure HB wont have a problem fronting a team, same with Rotorua. The other team is Wanganui normally who i havent seen or heard much about.

[Nigel]

Hi All,

Yes, as per our race calendar, this will be a 2 day event.

As with with any teams event, sorting out confirmed teams and confirmed competitors within those teams is always difficult and leads to information being released at the last moment.

The rumour mill is always a great thing, especially here on MacGors, so keep an eye on our website for confirmed details as soon as they are available.

www.huntlyspeedway.co.nz

P.S. Don't miss it. This meeting will be a cracker!!!!

[Admin]

The rumour mill is always a great thing, especially here on MacGors

Sure is Nigel , fuels interest in your meeting and provides the opportunity for you to set the record straight where needed .

Now....if Huntly would just ban 'team numbers' for this meeting even I would be happy to turn up .

[Nigel]

Nov 6, 2009 10:25:05 GMT 12 Admin said:

The rumour mill is always a great thing, especially here on MacGors

Sure is Nigel , fuels interest in your meeting and provides the opportunity for you to set the record straight where needed .

Now....if Huntly would just ban 'team numbers' for this meeting even I would be happy to turn up .

;D Can't argue with you regarding creating interest... lol

Team numbers though... hmmmmmmmmmmm?

I used to hate them, maybe still do, but I suppose the thing is (or so I am told by some of the drivers) that team numbers create confusion with the other team, hopefully slowing up attacks, etc and can disrupt the oppositions strategies/tactics.

Wouldn't want to be in a tank amongst Ford Y's though... lol One would tend to stick out like dog's round things and no number could save you... ;D

[Admin]

I know why the team numbers are there but on the flip side I can't figure why tracks allow them when it peeves so many of their paying customers .

This is not a dig at you or Huntly but seeing as the remit was lost I reckon the problem could be addressed by the tracks as a condition of entering these meetings.

PS.I'm actually planning to come for a look anyway .

[Colin E]

Someone who has Teams Raced can probably answer this hopefully. When on the track are numbers on the car really that important from a drivers view? I would have thought that if it looks like an opposition car you deal with it. I know there is a lot more to teams racing than just taking out the opposition at all cost, there are strategies etc, but from a drivers view do you have time to check out numbers or is it more about being familiar with the looks of the car be it front or back of the opposition car?

[Ricoshea]

in my opinion, most teams ( not all teams ) have one or two drivers that stand out as more likely to get the business done, and as a consequence those drivers become a priority target.
i do know that drivers will scope the oposition prior, looking for car features to help identify who is who.
but a teams race as we all know does not always go to plan.

[mintie]

as a commentator who tries to relay who is where its a complete pain and as for the paying public how they keep a track of who is where is also beyond me as well. have team colurs but keep the drivers number and make it legible to read

[alloyplatypus]

Nov 6, 2009 13:06:34 GMT 12 @mintie said:

as a commentator who tries to relay who is where its a complete pain and as for the paying public how they keep a track of who is where is also beyond me as well. have team colurs but keep the drivers number and make it legible to read

From a financial point of view, in cases like Huntly and Kihikihi Stockcars, they werent made for confusion, they were just made as team bodies that anybody could run and look the part, without getting re-signwritten all the time as drivers change. I think that it was a great idea in the Stockcar class, when many of us were budget drivers, but now its a bit different, and teams like Auckland have gone a step too far really being that it is a spectator sport.. Smart move.. Yes.. but not good for the paying public. I personally have only ever ran a Gisborne Pak n Save wing and a 2K's flag as uniform in my teams racing for 5 different teams.

As a driver, yes it definitely was more difficult to tell which car was which when racing cars that you dont race or see regularly (when 2Ks would race Huntly, i was as familiar with the cars as the numbers), especially when you are trying to gun down a leader and the leader picks up a shadow blocker. Memory and good eyesight would definitely help a teams racer a heap in this day and age.

For the person that said to just smash any car in other colours.. well my last race was for Kihikihi against Wellington, that was our strategy and we would have smashed them alot more than they smashed us, but a, their machinery made ours look like Flintsone cars, and could handle the hits.. and b, watching on video we kept hitting the same cars many times, with only Lyndsey Trotter taking one out fully.. and in the end i think they got 1.2.3.. those ol skool tactics look cool but wont win a race.

[Regan O'Brien]

The maulers will be there with new boy in the team Andrew Powell and with the number thing i think it is just easy to run the team numbers as then you dont have to re-signrite the bodies if the team changes.With other teams and there numbers its easy if its not black and white then SMASH IT ;D ;D see ya all there and come say hello oh and the maulers have colouring books for sale and 09-10 t-shirts too

[oceans11]

Wanganui Vulcans will be there. With regard to numbers, more often than not the bodies are owned by the club or the team and not individual drivers and as team members change it becomes too expensive to keep changing team body numbers to the individual drivers contracted number. Team members can change a number of times a season for a variety of reasons.

[Ricoshea]

colouring books !

they would be black and white.

[Admin]

Great to see all the replies about the team numbers .

It's actually making me lean towards dropping the teams bodies too . Perhaps a teams wing could be the go . As it is now we often have similar looking teams running against each other .

Perhaps the future is in the past where the great teams racing was and the heroes and villians made and identified.

[Regan O'Brien]

Nov 6, 2009 14:05:44 GMT 12 Ricoshea said:

colouring books !

they would be black and white.

We do have colouered fronts but yes black and white the only way to go ;D ;D

[chrisw5]

Manawatu steelers will be there with 5 palmy cars

[The Observer]

Nov 6, 2009 14:24:49 GMT 12 chrisw5 said:

Manawatu steelers will be there with 5 palmy cars

Gutted - my two favourite drivers were in the PN team but had As on the car.

Billy Neil and Carlos Chessnutt took the place by storm last year, havn't seen two drivers dominate like that since the Gary and Dave show when the panthers were strong during the late 80s

[Mav, back bein a pit biarch]

For what it is worth, I am actually all for the teams numbers though think there needs to be some uniformity to them.

eg

Woodford Glen Track code 18

therefore teams numbers:
181
182
183
184
etc etc

Wellington track code 13

therefore teams numbers:
131
132
133
134
etc etc

Numbers work for both superstocks and stockcars.

And teams colours work to, but again needs to be some form of organisation required. Origin colours work, though may need to be registered with SNZ to ensure no double ups.

[glow=red,2,300]ADDED AMENDMENT:[/glow]End of day, teams racing is about the whole team. Not about Shane Penn in 7p etc etc. The aim is to disable as many if not all of the other team, and still have one of your TEAM mates finish first. If your to worried about where 7p is, then the unknown or unexpected sneak through and take the win...aye mad marty.

Back to original thread topic......any Sth Isl teams joining in? ;D

[eddiek]

The only real gripe I had with team numbers was when Auckland tried to be clever with the all 8s and 3s strategy. Seemed like a great idea to me at the time, until the moment arrived when I had to title the video.
The only one I could be sure of without spending a good amount of time double checking and triple checking was the Chestnutt (later Ferguson) body 333A, had to check three or four different sources to be sure, even now I'm not convinced I got them right.

I don't have any issue with actual team numbers where they follow sequential numbering systems.