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Post by maulers21 on Jan 10, 2010 15:30:43 GMT 12
On Friday night of the NZ GP I saw three children right up against the fence during racing and a Speedway New Zealand official was standing right next to them and even walked around them to check a car out and it wasn't until the Saint Johns people came along that the children were told to move back from the fence I was just wondering who's responsibility it is to make the people in front of the yellow lines to move back behind it during racing.  |
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 10, 2010 15:49:02 GMT 12
Security is meant to have a hand in it, whenever they look down at the track and see anyone standing in front of line. otherwise i think its generally the people (if they old enough to know better) that have to move themselves, or the parents of little kids who don't know better.
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Post by bingsta on Jan 10, 2010 15:55:44 GMT 12
Where are their parents??? !!!!
Russell Harris says numerous times every meeting for people to stand back... the security message prior to racing also says for people to stay behind the yellow line.
This issue drives me nuts!!!
I bet if their kids get hurt, they'll be after compensation!!!
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Post by maulers21 on Jan 10, 2010 15:58:16 GMT 12
i just thought that it was kinda silly that the speedway NZ official didnt say to them to move and just walked around them ignoring that they were there infront of the yellow line
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Post by Rusty on Jan 10, 2010 15:59:03 GMT 12
Where are their parents??? !!!! Russell Harris says numerous times every meeting for people to stand back... the security message prior to racing also says for people to stay behind the yellow line. This issue drives me nuts!!! I bet if their kids get hurt, they'll be after compensation!!! They cant as its part of the terms and conditions of entering speedway. there are normally signs to the affect of Motorsports are a hazadours sport..... enter at your own risk |
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 10, 2010 16:06:33 GMT 12
Good luck to anyone going for compensation. Ive seen the signs across EVERY track I've gone to, its just another way to try to rip the system isn't it?
'Let our child be hit then go spare at SNZ!' wat a stupid idea.
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Post by Admin on Jan 10, 2010 16:25:35 GMT 12
the thing is it really doesn't matter what the signs say it's laws that decide these things in court.
It's not the snz officials job to manage the public either , that's down to the venue managment.
snz can only stop the racing if the public is in a dangerous area .
of course my understanding could be up the chute.
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 10, 2010 16:41:22 GMT 12
Thats true Macgor...... I've only been in front of the line once and got told off for it by security so I know they were doing their job that night  |
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 10, 2010 17:25:03 GMT 12
On Friday night of the NZ GP I saw three children right up against the fence during racing and a Speedway New Zealand official was standing right next to them and even walked around them to check a car out and it wasn't until the Saint Johns people came along that the children were told to move back from the fence I was just wondering who's responsibility it is to make the people in front of the yellow lines to move back behind it during racing. And you did what? meaning if I had of seen them I would have asked them nicely to move back and explained why, why would I do that? because if I did not do anything and something happened to them it would be on my conciseness for ever even though its not my job its all about being responsible |
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Post by maulers21 on Jan 10, 2010 17:29:58 GMT 12
we were at the back of a stand so we said to the saint johns people to ask them to move back from the yellow line which they did as the stand was full or other wise i would have gone down and told them myself
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Post by stockkarmad on Jan 10, 2010 17:32:49 GMT 12
well said marty
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 10, 2010 17:36:12 GMT 12
we were at the back of a stand so we said to the saint johns people to ask them to move back from the yellow line which they did as the stand was full or other wise i would have gone down and told them myself well done, Palmy usually do have officials in some form around to keep people back |
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 10, 2010 17:39:57 GMT 12
i dnt believe that I would have said or done anything... I never have because at 22 years old.. and not being responsible for anyones well being but my own... I don't believe I should have to.. they should clearly be there with older people who should know better.
I said it, its my opinion so please don't attack me for it
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Post by trucker400 on Jan 10, 2010 17:44:43 GMT 12
The responsibility unfortunately rests with the Referee and the Clerk of the course,but the law also looks seriously at anyone who knowingly allows anyone else to commit an unsafe act that results in a serious harm incident,like being inside the yellow line and against the fence like the kids you described,so the SNZ Official who stepped around the kids would in the event of an accident be held partly liable and as such could be looking at a maximum of $60000 fine and up to 12 months as a guest of Her Majesty,the Ref and CoC unfortunately face greater amounts. The warnings about the dangers of motorsport etc that are prominately displayed at most venues and sometimes printed on the back of tickets are not worth the cost of the ink and paint they are written with under current NZ Law!!!
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Post by MadMarty13B on Jan 10, 2010 17:56:40 GMT 12
i dnt believe that I would have said or done anything... I never have because at 22 years old.. and not being responsible for anyones well being but my own... I don't believe I should have to.. they should clearly be there with older people who should know better. I said it, its my opinion so please don't attack me for it nothing wrong with that but if the world was made up of people only worrying about themselves and not thinking of others then this so called world of humanity would be a nuts place to live in sure the parents are responsible first and foremost but when people look out for each other well that matters as well ps seen as you live in the Hutt you will be able to change your name from Pantherfan to Wildcatfan next season ;D |
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Post by stockkarmad on Jan 10, 2010 18:01:14 GMT 12
at ESS security help keep kids away from fence if security not near, crowd told over loud speaker racing will not resume until childern removed situation quickly sorted, but really it should cum down to parents as much as i luv speedway and don,t like to take me eyes of it in case i miss sumthing when my childern are with me they are my number one priority and i make sure i no where they are at all times
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 10, 2010 18:08:05 GMT 12
i dnt believe that I would have said or done anything... I never have because at 22 years old.. and not being responsible for anyones well being but my own... I don't believe I should have to.. they should clearly be there with older people who should know better. I said it, its my opinion so please don't attack me for it nothing wrong with that but if the world was made up of people only worrying about themselves and not thinking of others then this so called world of humanity would be a nuts place to live in sure the parents are responsible first and foremost but when people look out for each other well that matters as well ps seen as you live in the Hutt you will be able to change your name from Pantherfan to Wildcatfan next season ;D Hahahaha not a chance... Im a Panther girl through and through |
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Post by stockmad on Jan 10, 2010 18:12:25 GMT 12
nothing wrong with that but if the world was made up of people only worrying about themselves and not thinking of others then this so called world of humanity would be a nuts place to live in sure the parents are responsible first and foremost but when people look out for each other well that matters as well ps seen as you live in the Hutt you will be able to change your name from Pantherfan to Wildcatfan next season ;D Hahahaha not a chance... Im a Panther girl through and through i saw u with a tigers flag lastyear ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by PantherFan87 on Jan 10, 2010 18:15:39 GMT 12
hahaha not guilty! I had one the first year ... but in my defence it was my very first champs experience and i didn't know better. but now i do  |
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Post by Dirt_Fan on Jan 10, 2010 19:28:31 GMT 12
Its the same at Bay Park.Children run rampant up and down in front of the grandstands and swing on the metal bark not half a meter from the fence.and then when racing is on they all flock right up to the fence when there is an accident.
I cant understand why parents fork out hard earned money for children to waste it running amok.
I have said something once before and i got told piss off and not tell their kid what to do and the kid carried on swinging on the fence.
Huntlys got it right though, the track side fence and then 1 about 10 to 20 meters back from that.
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