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Post by fordzrule on Feb 6, 2011 8:41:18 GMT 12
Well to be honest in the clubrooms after the tigers fans I spoke to were humble in defeat,with the attitude we can do it next year-and they can,likewise panthers,but hopefully Stratford will keep the nucleus as well.
A big piss off for us was seeing on here scrappers in final,and heading to speedway about 9.45ish hoping to get a view of last couple of races,only to be told by the typical old guys in coats(the white coat guys at races)yep for $80 you can,come on we were 1-2 races to watch,not the whole meeting,so off to clubrooms we trundled and waited,waited for result lol.
Sounds like a meeting off mediocrity a couple said,would they return yep,happy to pay $100(pre-booking)not really,but can't deny the event is always entertaining(mostly off field incidents).
Maybe the crowd needs to be informed of decisions as they happen or at end of race by a steward or race rep via loudspeakers,not by commentator,we don't need his ramblings.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 8:45:47 GMT 12
so was brett way on the grass or was he just touching it?? when he passed the cars at the start?? guess we will find out how bad it was in the replay on speedbox then we can all see if it was the right call or not. A streaming repeat of the finals is playing on Speedbox now. Current race ....Rebels vs Hawkeyes |
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Post by youngone on Feb 6, 2011 8:51:06 GMT 12
I agree and this happens so much, the spectators also need to be told what is happening. The officials need a procedure to ensure that their decisions are relayed to the commentator for relaying to the spectators.
How often are the commentators left to speculate as to why someone has been black flagged, moved back, disqualified etc.
That way it won't be the chinese whispers thing.
It needs to be out in the open.
I also find it very interesting how long 3 minutes are (3 minute bell), seems to be just a few seconds longer than it took to change a tyre etc, is that fair to the other competitors (this is a general comment and not related to this teams event).
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Post by busterbell on Feb 6, 2011 8:55:53 GMT 12
the poleline was atrocious as was the infield, confirmed by rees who said the conditions were impossible. (didnt stop him from infringing thou  ) the difference this year to last was those reasons above. i thought there had been some lenientcy to grass and poleline crossing but seems only when it suits ( because of the bog) every year, every year it is something!! i do hope someone can post the incident for a second look. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 9:11:30 GMT 12
every year, every year it is something!! So what was it last year? |
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Post by pashthep on Feb 6, 2011 9:26:43 GMT 12
Imagine if one of you guys were the ref, would you be moaning about your own rulings?
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Post by busterbell on Feb 6, 2011 9:27:21 GMT 12
every year, every year it is something!! So what was it last year? the tigers gridded up waiting why the panther hummers did their slow laps. have just seen the repeat of that incident and it is a load of old bull dust. nicholls had one scrapper beside him and behind him pushing and one wheel crosses the poleline. you cant tell me that is not harsh and a conveniance for the panthers. particularily when worse instances were let slide. |
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Post by ddt on Feb 6, 2011 9:31:02 GMT 12
I believe consistency is important when it comes to rulings. The first night racing was a bit of a shambles when there was a clear infringements after the red light and the driver was not taking off. Regardless if Hemi did not see the reds lights the rulings are quite clear. In contrast two kings drivers were taken off after cutting the pole line and extracting ones selfs under the red lights. Initially i thought roberts was take off as he was not positioning his car where the ref wanted him to go. Night two according to a above post the refs decided to rectify some of the decisions based on first night mistakes.
Everyone makes mistakes but obvious infringements need to be taken care of during the race. Fans just want consistency from the first night not just the second night.
Congrats to the panthers, they showed their dominance in the final.
Hard luck goes to the warriors leading for 9 of the 12 laps and i think hesitation cost them a finals birth.
team racer of the meeting for me would have to be Peter Rees. He made the drivers hesitant when it came to passing him and believe that was the difference in there semi against the warriors.
The 11 team format is awesome as the top four can change after the last race as shown on Friday night.
Bring back the wildcats ;D
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Post by totspete on Feb 6, 2011 10:17:45 GMT 12
Just to clarify, the five Tigers drivers were left waiting outside the pit gate as Rotorua protested the third place race. No one told them what the protest was over, when it was being heard or whether they would be required for a presentation. After almost 10 minutes of milling around with no information, they returned to their pits.
While disappointed, they were proud to have made the podium and would have happily been part of the presentation, if they had been told to step forward.
I'm sure it didn't look great that they weren't there but I didn't get a text saying third had been confirmed until 30min after the last race was over.
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Post by busterbell on Feb 6, 2011 10:52:43 GMT 12
so it has been confirmed then that nelson got 3rd?? tigers certainly have been served a raw deal.  |
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Post by stockmad on Feb 6, 2011 14:27:01 GMT 12
oh yea the first night 6p hitting on a red lite not just once but a few times in between turn 3 and 4 the growd were yelling off off off the blue hats and red hats saw it and did nothing while other cars from other teams get dsq or relegated for something less . |
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Post by stockmad on Feb 6, 2011 14:34:29 GMT 12
Just to clarify, the five Tigers drivers were left waiting outside the pit gate as Rotorua protested the third place race. No one told them what the protest was over, when it was being heard or whether they would be required for a presentation. After almost 10 minutes of milling around with no information, they returned to their pits. While disappointed, they were proud to have made the podium and would have happily been part of the presentation, if they had been told to step forward. I'm sure it didn't look great that they weren't there but I didn't get a text saying third had been confirmed until 30min after the last race was over. on other post somewhere someone said no protests in teams racing now u are saying that rotorua protested man im getting lost here |
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Post by stockmad on Feb 6, 2011 14:37:33 GMT 12
so it has been confirmed then that nelson got 3rd?? tigers certainly have been served a raw deal. i agree if nelson were in the final it would of been a real battle two teams with great drivers and cars . |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 14:38:45 GMT 12
oh yea the first night 6p hitting on a red lite not just once but a few times in between turn 3 and 4 the growd were yelling off off off the blue hats and red hats saw it and did nothing while other cars from other teams get dsq or relegated for something less . Shezzz thats no good, the crowd said Off Off Off and the officials didn't do it. mmmm that is just not on. Next time you see Phil Dixon ask him why they didn't take him off when the crowd wanted him to do so. Its just bollox when the officials don't do what the crowd wants, sack em all I say ;D ;D |
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Post by export gold on Feb 6, 2011 16:45:38 GMT 12
Your a hard man Ramjam ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I think what most people are tryin to say is , over the last few years at teams champs anytime there is drama and the Panthers are involved they always seem to get the roll of the dice or the rules are bent slightly and come out on top where as other teams end up payin the price ,i:e- points taken off, relegated etc etc....But hey it gives us something to talk about afterwards over a few beers down the local and keeps us coming back year after year.....One question though, are the refs or red caps locals ? or are they neutral ones from around the country ?? Also what was in those brown envelopes i saw Bruce taking up to the box after the meeting ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Gavin Stowers on Feb 6, 2011 17:56:57 GMT 12
Panthers certainly didn't benefit from dice rolls last year....
You know - It would have been nice to have seen the same cries of foul play when Wayne Hemi was relegated last year for exactly the same thing that y'all are pinning this year's 'Palmy favouritism' tag on....
Or should I have left this balanced comment out of such a passionate tirade??
Of course...when your team doesn't do as well as you would like...and they don't get to win - or even make - the final...you are obviously going to find something - or someone - else to blame.
It was a silly mistake, it was picked up, and action was taken.
Suck it up, get over it and look forward to making amends next year..
Just like we had to do last year....
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Post by busterbell on Feb 6, 2011 18:09:33 GMT 12
palmy are always bending rules, have been since its inception.
there have been countless occasions when this has happened.
no other event Carry's the same "favoritism" tag as this event.
sure come back next year, sweep another controversy under the carpet, and wait for next seasons dramas.
prefer it just stopped and there was a fair and just contest between whoever.
its hard enough to compete with the panthers let alone the ref as well.
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Post by 4zfed on Feb 6, 2011 18:09:50 GMT 12
Panthers certainly didn't benefit from dice rolls last year.... You know - It would have been nice to have seen the same cries of foul play when Wayne Hemi was relegated last year for exactly the same thing that y'all are pinning this year's 'Palmy favouritism' tag on.... Or should I have left this balanced comment out of such a passionate tirade?? Of course...when your team doesn't do as well as you would like...and they don't get to win - or even make - the final...you are obviously going to find something - or someone - else to blame. It was a silly mistake, it was picked up, and action was taken. Suck it up, get over it and look forward to making amends next year.. Just like we had to do last year.... Great post GMS-unfortunately alot of Nelson supporters are great winners but very bad losers. So is it only non favoritism when the Tigers win Buster? I guess if teams or clubs are unhappy saying everything is rigged then why do they attend or why dont they run their own teams champs in opposition. Well done to all drivers and teams on putting on a hello of a show & well done to the promotion on getting the track as good as you could for racing friday night see you all next year  |
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Post by stockmad on Feb 6, 2011 18:15:50 GMT 12
Panthers certainly didn't benefit from dice rolls last year.... You know - It would have been nice to have seen the same cries of foul play when Wayne Hemi was relegated last year for exactly the same thing that y'all are pinning this year's 'Palmy favouritism' tag on.... Or should I have left this balanced comment out of such a passionate tirade?? wow 6p did something last year to and hitting under the reds this year whats he going to do next year so wat was it last year was the pole line i think. This year hitting on the reds. next year must be moving on the reds. ;D ;D ;D ;D but he mite get away with it ;D ;D ;D ;D Of course...when your team doesn't do as well as you would like...and they don't get to win - or even make - the final...you are obviously going to find something - or someone - else to blame. It was a silly mistake, it was picked up, and action was taken. Suck it up, get over it and look forward to making amends next year.. Just like we had to do last year.... |
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Post by stockmad on Feb 6, 2011 18:23:13 GMT 12
Panthers certainly didn't benefit from dice rolls last year.... You know - It would have been nice to have seen the same cries of foul play when Wayne Hemi was relegated last year for exactly the same thing that y'all are pinning this year's 'Palmy favouritism' tag on.... Or should I have left this balanced comment out of such a passionate tirade?? Of course...when your team doesn't do as well as you would like...and they don't get to win - or even make - the final...you are obviously going to find something - or someone - else to blame. It was a silly mistake, it was picked up, and action was taken. Suck it up, get over it and look forward to making amends next year.. Just like we had to do last year.... Great post GMS-unfortunately alot of Nelson supporters are great winners but very bad losers. So is it only non favoritism when the Tigers win Buster? I guess if teams or clubs are unhappy saying everything is rigged then why do they attend or why dont they run their own teams champs in opposition. Well done to all drivers and teams on putting on a hello of a show & well done to the promotion on getting the track as good as you could for racing friday night see you all next year nelson bad lossers lastyear panther surporters calling kids the w word and the c word after the semi .kids that were 8 years old get a grip mate we dont scoop down to that level after we lose |
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