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Post by penman on Jan 22, 2012 15:14:37 GMT 12
Ok then. The hemi thing. was it going to cost them a place in the final. Or something serious like that. I'm afraid I can't see any point in resurrecting this, nor do I see ANY benefit it in whatsoever. Therefore I withdraw gracefully....
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Post by penman on Jan 22, 2012 15:16:22 GMT 12
I thought BarryB was doing the education but it seems penman is having a crack lol. Rod McNaughton isn't based at any track , just covers some of the big meetings. Most Ref calls at Palmy are correct , the problem is the Panthers are just so good at what they do. Any team that beats them has to be better again. I know you are new to this board but you probably need to do more reading than posting for a wee while. Part of a New Year's resolution Mr McG... More balance, a more open-mind, and a smaller patch over my eye. ;D
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Post by superstocknut21 on Jan 22, 2012 15:18:11 GMT 12
Most calls you reckon. Last night i saw a few that were a bit wrong and nothing happend. But the was one protest. And my mate racing ministocks got suspened for accidently rolling a a car. And 32p ministock purposly tryed to rolled 15b. And once again nothing happened he returned in the next race. so there are a few bad calls. At the end on the day i am a teenage boy who is a speedway fanatic and i would just like to see each team get treated equally and fairly.
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Post by penman on Jan 22, 2012 15:21:11 GMT 12
Most calls you reckon. Last night i saw a few that were a bit wrong and nothing happend. But the was one protest. And my mate racing ministocks got suspened for accidently rolling a a car. And 32p ministock purposly tryed to rolled 15b. And once again nothing happened he returned in the next race. so there are a few bad calls. At the end on the day i am a teenage boy who is a speedway fanatic and i would just like to see each team get treated equally and fairly. Therefore, as a teenager, some advice that probably wouldn't go amiss - look, read, listen, understand, think....THEN post. NOW I withdraw gracefully.... ;D
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Post by superstocknut21 on Jan 22, 2012 15:21:27 GMT 12
HIGHWAY45. Thank you. I see what your saying. And yes all im really asking for is that the calls need to be the same for every team, race and year.
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Post by BarryB on Jan 22, 2012 15:36:26 GMT 12
Then tell me Barry B. How come these things never happen to The Palmerston North Panthers. And its not just that rule that get brocken either. 2010 teams champs back when the 60 Minutes crew were following the Panthers, Wayne Hemi has victory taken off him in the first race by the referee. The Panthers basically needed a 1, 2, 3, 4 in their second race to make the Semi Finals. A mistake by the promotion put the Panthers up against the Tigers in the Semi-Final, which they lost, when they should have been racing another (arguably lesser) team. There's a couple of thhings just from memory......
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Post by BarryB on Jan 22, 2012 15:37:31 GMT 12
For example when Brett Nichols got relagated for been on the grass.Shane Penn did the same thing a few races before and nothing happened. I believe that the desion was made so Nelson would make it to the final. Because if they did it would have been a challange for the Panthers. Again??? Really??? It's almost a full year since 'that' race and it's come up again? Agree with the ref's decision or not, it's DONE. What can possibly be gained by bringing it up AGAIN? Argh!!!!!! Some people just can't move on. It's 2012 now............
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Post by speedy007 on Jan 22, 2012 15:38:09 GMT 12
Hey Highway45 Stratford did not protest Tigers last year as it is in the rule book that when a red cap is in charge there can be NO protest the ref made the call himself. I know because i was there part of the team.
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Post by BarryB on Jan 22, 2012 15:40:10 GMT 12
So am i. Tigers all the way. But what about shane penn he did the same thing and nothing happened. Because it could have cost the a place in the final. Or like any other meeting you micro-analyze. The refs see some things and not others. They can only act on what they see. I'm sure you miss some things too, but you don't actually know that because you didn't see it
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Post by BarryB on Jan 22, 2012 15:42:19 GMT 12
Well something could be done to help stop this. Because this dosent look good for the sport. To help stop what? Conspiracy theories? Potentially, the best thing in this case that could be done to help the sport look better is to stop publicly suggesting that PN refs are biased or that the Panthers get hugely beneficial treatment at Teams Champs. Especially when he's factually incorrect on the statement. Nutty, if you read back on the first page, the ref's are NOT all from PN, including the head man who is from ROTORUA!!
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Post by BarryB on Jan 22, 2012 15:43:41 GMT 12
But i know for a fact that i am not the only one that feels this way. And a heres a sugestion why dont we get referees from other places mabey that dont have a team entered. Because every track that has a referee experienced in both Superstock racing and Teams racing have a team entered!!
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Post by BarryB on Jan 22, 2012 15:45:28 GMT 12
nelson got relegated as a protest was filed by opposition Incorrect. You cannot protest in Teams Racing.
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Post by BarryB on Jan 22, 2012 15:46:51 GMT 12
Most calls you reckon. Last night i saw a few that were a bit wrong and nothing happend. But the was one protest. And my mate racing ministocks got suspened for accidently rolling a a car. And 32p ministock purposly tryed to rolled 15b. And once again nothing happened he returned in the next race. so there are a few bad calls. At the end on the day i am a teenage boy who is a speedway fanatic and i would just like to see each team get treated equally and fairly. Well they WERE all Palmy refs last night ;D
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Post by supastocknut on Jan 22, 2012 15:48:17 GMT 12
Off Topic..........But why are people copying my Name? ? this is the second person to do it?? Think up your own lol ;D lol And to add to the argument they are not all Palmy refs as we have a few of them staying at our motel!!
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Post by penman on Jan 22, 2012 15:51:05 GMT 12
Off Topic..........But why are people copying my Name? ? this is the second person to do it?? Think up your own lol ;D lol And to add to the argument they are not all Palmy refs as we have a few of them staying at our motel!! Are they REALLY non-PN refs? Or is it part of the conspiracy?
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Post by superstocknut21 on Jan 22, 2012 15:52:04 GMT 12
Well i didnt no that you had the name. And why cant you protest in teams racing.
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Post by busterbell on Jan 22, 2012 15:53:47 GMT 12
there has been some highly questionable happenings every year at teams champs in palmy . most of those happenings have favored the panthers in some way or another . there is the odd bad call at other events but palmy every year never fails to cough up some sort of injustice . some may be merely oversights (eyes closed ;D ) others are most definitely made to favor a certain outcome . there will be more this year guaranteed!! now how is that infamous draw being done this year??
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Post by superstocknut21 on Jan 22, 2012 15:57:58 GMT 12
Thnks for agreing with me.
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Post by supastocknut on Jan 22, 2012 16:03:12 GMT 12
Off Topic..........But why are people copying my Name? ? this is the second person to do it?? Think up your own lol ;D lol And to add to the argument they are not all Palmy refs as we have a few of them staying at our motel!! Are they REALLY non-PN refs? Or is it part of the conspiracy? Well they could be drag queens?? but to date i have not seen any dresses so would assume they are the real thing!! lmfao ;D
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Post by kiatoa on Jan 22, 2012 16:06:47 GMT 12
there has been some highly questionable happenings every year at teams champs in palmy . most of those happenings have favored the panthers in some way or another . there is the odd bad call at other events but palmy every year never fails to cough up some sort of injustice . some may be merely oversights (eyes closed ;D ) others are most definitely made to favor a certain outcome . there will be more this year guaranteed!! now how is that infamous draw being done this year?? I read that book too - Excuses for losers waiting for the second edition to be released Feb 6th
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