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Post by Yard on Sept 21, 2015 14:57:48 GMT 12
A List of 10 wheels that have been approved are on SNZ web site now.
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Post by hath on Sept 21, 2015 17:13:38 GMT 12
So I take it by that list that if you buy a wide 5 centre and wheel hoop from cardwells it isn't approved unless it's a complete bassett assembly?? ie no weld your own centres?  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 17:16:24 GMT 12
Is it just me or is there only one approved wheel for saloons so far? and they have listed what the wheels are approved for... sooooo... all those stockcar/superstock rims cant be used on a non contact car like a prodo? or on the front of a saloon or modified? seems weird to me that they are safe for contact racing but not non contact.
Is it just me or have we gone from not being safe enough to being too regimented - Im seriously wondering if Murray Guy is right, it looks to me like saloons and mods etc are being shafted because of superstock/stockcar wheel issues. Actually it has done for a while.... Hopefully they continue to work on sorting out this issue - wether anyone admits it or not, it affects every car in the country and there is a large number that are likely to be taking a season off while the finances build up to afford whatever will replace the six pin hubs that were arbitrarily made illegal for mods, saloons and super saloon. {I say arbitrarily because Ive yet to hear of a competitor having been consulted on the issue in any way - however I do know a few vocal ones that werent at all}
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Post by hath on Sept 21, 2015 17:20:41 GMT 12
Surprises me how a BRAND can be specified as approved rather than a particular model and also specified is where you may purchase that brand of wheel from....... I guess some suppliers can't be trusted to supply the same level of quality as others or is there a bit more to it?
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Post by Pazza on Sept 21, 2015 17:30:27 GMT 12
The people that have been approved via SNZ site to sell there rims listed have spent many thousands to have there wheels certified & tested to meet the standard & then approved by SNZ to be able to sell them & has taken months & months to do so. That's why you can only buy the rims off them.
People need to get there facts right before they post wrong information on here basicly [changed it as waznt baging just wrong]
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Post by hath on Sept 21, 2015 17:42:34 GMT 12
The people that have been approved via SNZ site to sell there rims listed have spent many thousands to have there wheels certified & tested to meet the standard & then approved by SNZ to be able to sell them & has taken months & months to do so. That's why you can only buy the rims off them. People need to get there facts right before they bag people. Who was bagging people? Can't we even ask questions anymore? |
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Post by Pazza on Sept 21, 2015 18:07:32 GMT 12
Yea all good Rhodesta.
I totally agree bout the stuff that goes on & is totally wrong.
Hopefully what SNZ has done about the Certifing etc will stop some of this.
Just a major pain for the Racers & a heap of money for the suppliers to beable to sell them
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 18:40:10 GMT 12
Yea all good Rhodesta. I totally agree bout the stuff that goes on & is totally wrong. Hopefully what SNZ has done about the Certifing etc will stop some of this. Just a major pain for the Racers & a heap of money for the suppliers to beable to sell them Yeah I deleted my posts - I wasnt saying what I meant very well. Theres some friendships between suppliers and board that shouldnt really exist for the proper mandate of the board to be fulfilled - they have a mandate to provide affordable competitive racing, its right at the start of the rulebook - so its basically a kind of conflict of interest. after all who doesnt want to help out a mate? Whats happened though is that with limited suppliers there is currently a monopoly - and sadly while they will no doubt continue to approve wheels etc the onus is not on the board to pay for it and many companies that would normally be happy getting wheels certified for speedway use cannot afford to do so which only worsens the situation most competitors are in since it tightens the grip the approved manufacturers have on thier monopolies. |
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Post by Yard on Sept 21, 2015 19:45:00 GMT 12
A List of 10 wheels that have been approved are on SNZ web site now. SNZ will release part two Shorty. Apparently there was a meeting last Friday. |
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Post by tank11 on Sept 21, 2015 20:06:23 GMT 12
A List of 10 wheels that have been approved are on SNZ web site now. SNZ will release part two Shorty. Apparently there was a meeting last Friday. Who are you calling "shorty" ?? |
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Post by TimSOZ on Sept 21, 2015 22:10:17 GMT 12
Goodness there's some dribble on this site sometimes.
Competitors can still run wheels made by others that meet the thickness specifications in the rulebook. Approved wheels only apply if you want to use a wheel that doesnt meet the specs.
I see from the SNZ website that to date 5 suppliers who have expended the time and money to ensure they are selling safe wheels that have been passed by an engineer.
One of those 5 is based in the South Island.
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Post by Yard on Sept 21, 2015 22:33:36 GMT 12
SNZ will release part two Shorty. Apparently there was a meeting last Friday. Who are you calling "shorty" ?? Sorry----meant to say soon. Dam predictive text |
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Post by Ants6a on Sept 21, 2015 22:49:23 GMT 12
Do all approved wheels have to have "SNZ" stamped on them at purchase,or do you buy a approved wheel and it is check and
stamped at green sheeting?
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Post by Yard on Sept 21, 2015 23:21:07 GMT 12
Do all approved wheels have to have "SNZ" stamped on them at purchase,or do you buy a approved wheel and it is check and stamped at green sheeting? If you buy a wheel now and it's been approvedit will have 2 stamps on it |
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Post by Yard on Sept 21, 2015 23:36:03 GMT 12
One will be The supplier stamp The other will be SNZ It will still need to be stamped at your track for green sheeting. The SNZ stamp refers to it being compliant with the rules. Other wheels that you used last season will be checked at the track by a tech Stewart and stamped with a SNZ stamp.
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Post by Murray Guy (Grandad) on Sept 22, 2015 0:29:43 GMT 12
Goodness there's some dribble on this site sometimes. Competitors can still run wheels made by others that meet the thickness specifications in the rulebook. Approved wheels only apply if you want to use a wheel that doesnt meet the specs.
It appears our former CEO has little respect for those that struggle to follow the mind-set and or written advice provided by the SNZ Board he advised.
This must mean, somewhere, steering us in the face, is clarity. That saloons can run wheels made by others, my existing 6 pins for example, provided they meet the thickness specifications in the rule book.
* Approved wheels only apply if you want to use a wheel that doesn't meet the specs.
Sorry Tim, I really am, as it has resulted in me putting my car on the market, I just can't figure out what the hell it is you are saying, and I'm not on my own
Biggest shame is, I don't think you or the Board give a darn!
7 out of my 10 rims meet exactly the specs approved for a stock car and super stock, and they are 'thicker' than the 5 five centre.
Perhaps it's a way to reduce saloons and get me to buy a stock car?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 6:50:30 GMT 12
What he's basically saying is that your wheels are legal - its the hubs that arent.
For some idiotic reason the superstocks ripping out wheel centres due to bad fitment has been passed off as a saloon and mod issue instead of what it really was - just grab two wide five hubs from cardwells and get four of your rear wheels swapped to a wide five pattern, just change them like normal wheels until you can get more centres and hubs sorted - in the mean time leave your wide five rear hubs attached to the car.
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Post by Superstock22s on Sept 22, 2015 10:01:27 GMT 12
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Post by japsuper on Sept 22, 2015 10:36:59 GMT 12
Murray's wheels don't comply with current rules for 6 pin hubs ( and apparently that centre didn't previously ) AND 6 pin hubs are no longer legal for saloons.
If the 6 pin was still allowed he would need to change his centre to a solid laser cut centre as per there drawings.........
Question I still have is what about all the current Wide 5 Bassett and other USA manufactured Wide 5 wheels which are in circulation. They haven't come from Cardwells or Bayspeed with the new stamping. So are these going to be stamped and approved by SNZ. Perhaps TimS could inform us.
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Post by chewy69a on Sept 22, 2015 10:49:30 GMT 12
I have a heap of D windows, all built up from hoops/centres bought from Cardwells and all are at least one season old.
I will NOT be buying any new rims until these are all smashed.
Can anyone clarify who will be "rubber stamping" my existing rims?
Do the vehicle checkers have the authority to do this at greensheeting? And if so will they honestly be able to identify between approved and non approved D windows?
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